Knife Game

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This knifemaker I know contacted me a while ago with a pretty cool idea. The concept was - give three different makers identical raw materials and have them make a knife - of any style or design they choose, but using only the materials provided. As an added wrinkle - the makers would be at different rungs of the knifemaking ladder: a rank novice, an established maker and a very experienced maker - for lack of precise terms.

This struck me as intriguing - obviously, the further up the ladder, the greater the greater the range of design options - yet there is still the limiting factor of using the same stuff. I told him I thought it was a very cool idea. The "him" in question was Karl Andersen - recently anointed with his Journeyman Smith stamp at this past Blade Show. He had slotted himself into the middle position. Cool! Who will be the next step up? Lin Rhea - who has been turning out a diverse range of superb knives for a while and will be testing for his Master Smith stamp at the next Blade Show.

Excellent! Who will make the rookie piece, I inquired?


"You will."

Um, say again? :eek: I thought you wanted a rookie knifemaker?

Yes, like any other dumb fish in the pond, I had swallowed the hook but good.






At Blade, we gathered for a group shot - left to right - Lin, Karl, me.

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The materials to be used will be as follows:

1 Inch Square 5160 manufactured in Illinois in 1984. .61% C.
1 1/4" Bakelite salvaged from an office building in Wisconsin that was built in 1907.
Wrought iron from a structure in Illinois built in 1903.

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That is a big hunk of steel - probably enough for a decent sized sword (no, I will not be making a sword) - so the options really are wide open.

Now, seeing as I don't own enough tools to fill a meaningful-sized tool box - much less a forge or anything resembling a shop - I will once again have to impose on the generosity of Dan Farr to let me use his place to get this done. As such, my time line for completion is the most uncertain - but I will get 'er done. I already have some design ideas kicking about in my head - all of which have to be tempered by a realistic assessment of my ability to actually make the piece.

Can't wait to see what the others come up with, and you can be sure that we'll show you the results here when all is said and done.

Roger
 
I'm liking that phenolic Bakelight (You're right. Micarta wasn't the term in 1907)

Great project. The student aspirant is going to make the experienced maker's sweat bullets... :p :thumbup:

Staying posted...

Coop
 
Interesting project. Can't wait to see the results.

Regards,

Jos
 
Bear in mind, Roger, that this original project should be documented
for a truly intriguing article in knife magazines WORLD WIDE!

All the best,
David Darom (ddd)
 
So that is why I had 10 pounds of steel clunking around in my suitcase on the way home....I couldn't for the life of me figure out what the block of handle material was.

Dan
 
So that is why I had 10 pounds of steel clunking around in my suitcase on the way home....I couldn't for the life of me figure out what the block of handle material was.

Dan

Glad you found it! When I went to give it to you for Roger, you were off cavorting, and I just left it on your table with a note.
 
Heck of an idea....just one question.....

Who gets the knives...?

Lin asked me the same question, and I really had not considered that when I devised "The Game" - I hadn't thought that far ahead.
I suggested we may offer them up as a Auction with proceeds to go......?
I don't know.
I came up with this one might laying in the bathtub looking up at the ceiling. Isn't this where all great ideas come from?
I just wanted to do something fun that not only the participants would enjoy, but the spectators as well.
My only "instructions" to all three of us was that the only non-listed material that could be used would be something to affix the materials such as a pin or bolt.
And to Roger, was that, it's understood he will be using Dan's facilities, as long as he doesn't use Dan's MENTAL facilities as far as design goes. Now, he may need Dan to knock the material down to usable dimension, but after that, design, hand work, assembly, finish, etc. - is ALL Roger!
We are hoping to take some "in-progress" shots as well and maybe post updates along the way. Hopefully, we'll post the final products all at the same time.
As well, that's a BIG piece of Bakelite, a BIG piece of Wrought Iron, and that old 5160 is 1 inch square and a foot long. Could you maybe get more than one knife out of that?
Hmmm........
 
And to Roger, was that, it's understood he will be using Dan's facilities, as long as he doesn't use Dan's MENTAL facilities as far as design goes. Now, he may need Dan to knock the material down to usable dimension, but after that, design, hand work, assembly, finish, etc. - is ALL Roger! .

I'm thinking power hammer all the way to squish that big hunk of 5160.

Design will be mine - already have something sketched out. You can expect some Farr influence in the handle - what can I say - I like the way they look and feel.

My plan as it stands is to forge out 2 blades as insurance, but finish one. I'll get some in-progress pics as I go along.

Dan - thanks for hauling that stuff back for me - and thanks in advance for yet another trip to your shop!

Roger
 
Brilliant idea!

I completely agree with ddd about the documentation and article.

(not to mention that a peek into the minds of the makers as the pieces progress would potentially be the best part. the concept, the execution, the angst :))

Dave
 
This is gonna be cool...its kinda like a knifemaker version of the Iron Chef...

Next year lets throw in a secret ingredient...


and this years secret ingredient is....

STAG:D
 
A donation of proceeds to Prostrate Cancer research would compliment the Bladeforum Breast Cancer knife and seeing as you are all guys.......
 
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