Knife Laws In Your State..Do You Obey Them

Repper22, please never ever think the TS operator at a precinet ( the officer holding the telephone transfer switch at the desk) knows anything at all about knife laws. You may have been lucky enough to have found one who knows a bit. Contact the legal division at OPP ( One Police Plaza) and inquire from them. They will tell you that any knife that can be flicked ( yes even holding the blade) can be deemed a gravity knife. Any knife that is a weapon by design is a dangerous knife, and any knife that the carrier states is used as a wepaon ( including self defense) is a dangerous knife. The city enforces the state law ( 265.01 and .02) differently than the rest of the state, but it has state wide implications since the courts have allowed this to stand. Quick and ready deployment is the thing the law attempts to ban, but it has become far to much an easy arrest in NYC where numbers of arrest count. The exposed knife is illegal with a few exceptions, but those who fall into those exceptions ( think construction workers) are subject to arrest for the gravity knife charge when the officer can flick it open. Officers have been allowed several attempts in court to get the knife to flick open. I wish I was an idealistic law student, but I am a former NYC LEO who has seen far too many people end up with a CPW arrest/conviction who where otherwise good guys.....carry a non locking non weapon knife in NYC and becareful elsewhere too....
 
tom19176 said:
Repper22, please never ever think the TS operator at a precinet ( the officer holding the telephone transfer switch at the desk) knows anything at all about knife laws. You may have been lucky enough to have found one who knows a bit. Contact the legal division at OPP ( One Police Plaza) and inquire from them. They will tell you that any knife that can be flicked ( yes even holding the blade) can be deemed a gravity knife. Any knife that is a weapon by design is a dangerous knife, and any knife that the carrier states is used as a wepaon ( including self defense) is a dangerous knife. The city enforces the state law ( 265.01 and .02) differently than the rest of the state, but it has state wide implications since the courts have allowed this to stand. Quick and ready deployment is the thing the law attempts to ban, but it has become far to much an easy arrest in NYC where numbers of arrest count. The exposed knife is illegal with a few exceptions, but those who fall into those exceptions ( think construction workers) are subject to arrest for the gravity knife charge when the officer can flick it open. Officers have been allowed several attempts in court to get the knife to flick open. I wish I was an idealistic law student, but I am a former NYC LEO who has seen far too many people end up with a CPW arrest/conviction who where otherwise good guys.....carry a non locking non weapon knife in NYC and becareful elsewhere too....
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I'll be working for the DA's office this summer so I will definitely ask around and do some research there. I agree with what you say. I wouldn't call myself idealistic. The officer I spoke with at the 30th precinct was not the guy who answered the phone, he was a guy who they put me with who was their "lead guy" on weapon carry laws. He basically told me what you said in so many words, but hinted that he doesn't agree with them and wouldn't make the arrest for flicking a knife by the blade. I'm a pro gun/knife conservative behind enemy lines here hoping to do some damage. If I ever find myself in a position to change or influence the laws here I will but doubt it will happen. If I ultimately become an ADA believe me I will drop every case that comes before me like this if I can.
 
Reeper22 said:
I'll be working for the DA's office this summer so I will definitely ask around and do some research there. I agree with what you say. I wouldn't call myself idealistic. The officer I spoke with at the 30th precinct was not the guy who answered the phone, he was a guy who they put me with who was their "lead guy" on weapon carry laws. He basically told me what you said in so many words, but hinted that he doesn't agree with them and wouldn't make the arrest for flicking a knife by the blade. I'm a pro gun/knife conservative behind enemy lines here hoping to do some damage. If I ever find myself in a position to change or influence the laws here I will but doubt it will happen. If I ultimately become an ADA believe me I will drop every case that comes before me like this if I can.
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You may also speak to the DA ( a ADA) within each of the five counties. You will find that Queens and Manhattan go after knife possession, but Brooklyn, the Bronx, and Staten Island are not as bad. I meet with the Brooklyn DA Charles Hynes every three months, and the Red Zone ADA leader every month to discuss issues in the malls I run. I do talk knife law with them when I can get it in....
 
Repper, if you in Brooklyn let me know....I interact with Queens and the other boros also, but very often with Brooklyn.....
 
I plan on simply carrying my Mnandi (to come!) clipped to a small wallet / card case inside my pocket. I might move it to outside the pocket when I'm in the office but simply walking around it's staying inside the pocket.
 
JimSocks said:
can't carry any knife unless related to work in my city.
i still keep something cheap on me at work, i can make an excuse for it. but i don't carry anything when traveling around the city.

although, if i'm going to a bbq, i'll bring something. always need an extra knife at a bbq.
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really:(
 
clockman said:
Do you follow your state knife laws or dont you worry about them?
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I think Virginia has a 3" rule too. Not sure though, which shows how concerned I am about them. I'm with you on the, it's all in how you conduct yourself as to how much trouble a LEO will give you. If I'm pulled over, which these days is the only reason I'd be approached by a LEO, I give them all the respect anyone deserves who puts their life on the line every day.

I carry my CRKT M16-13LE every day and it's blade measures 3-1/4" to 3-1/2" depending on where I measure to. No worries.
 
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