Knife mistakes in tv and movies

[Hickory n steel]

Then we have A Spanish 1941 bayonet that turns up in the hands of a Vietnamese torturer in the scene from First Blood. Not entirely implossible; a Russian advisor may have collected the bayonet during WWII from the debris of the Spanish Blue Division; which served with the Nazis, and then passed it on to one of his North Vietamese students 20 years later. But, that story would have been more interestig than the movie plot.

n2s

That just reminds me of the fact that in first blood part 2 they heated the tip of his knife up to red hot and burned him with it, and he later retrieves his knife and uses it as if it had never been ruined by the fire.

 

[USMCPOP]

That just reminds me of the fact that in first blood part 2 they heated the tip of his knife up to red hot and burned him with it, and he later retrieves his knife and uses it as if it had never been ruined by the fire.

Rocky should have cut his nads off with the back half of the blade that was unaffected. That would be knife justice.

 

[msierant]

greetings all,
in "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid" the guy, think the actor's name was Cassidy, pulls out a Western Bowie in the knife fight with Newman. Think Redford had the same in Jeremiah Johnson.

 

[robgmn]

That just reminds me of the fact that in first blood part 2 they heated the tip of his knife up to red hot and burned him with it, and he later retrieves his knife and uses it as if it had never been ruined by the fire.

Maybe they properly quenched it after torturing Rockbo?

 

[Hickory n steel]

greetings all,
in "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid" the guy, think the actor's name was Cassidy, pulls out a Western Bowie in the knife fight with Newman. Think Redford had the same in Jeremiah Johnson.

If your talking about the w49 ( with the brass S guard and broad blade )
It's a knife pattern that's been around a while and not exactly out of place ( the western w49 hasn't Been around that long, but it's close enough to a period knife ) in that time frame.
Still if it was an actual western, then it was out of place.

 

[EChoil]

Speaking of Rocky....one of the early Rambo's had the oriental torturer guy stropping a razor(?) on a small, square wood-framed strop. I remember the leather appearing very loose when the blade went across it like it was covering sand or BB's (looser than a mouse pad would appear). He may have been holding the strop in his hand.

I've always been more interested in finding out about that strop than any of the knives. Anyone know what I'm talking about or seen a strop like that around? I'm not sure how viable it would be to be real.

 

[Armadew]

I remember a scene in Inglorious Basterds where a character is stropping a knife horribly wrong. Completely rounding the edge!

 

[gadgetgeek]

echoil, variable tension paddle strops are a thing. Mastro Livi uses one in some of his videos, much to the dismay of many others, but his razors seem to cut!

 

[A.L.]

I like the Chinese movies where guys are literally flying through the air sword fighting. Jumping back and forth on very tops of tall, willowy bamboo, that sort of thing.

Well, that's whole genre, Wuxia I think it was called. I know your point, but the point is not being realistic, but kind of air-like poetry.

 

[Charlie_K]

I don't think it is unrealistic that a Western could be set in the 1890s. No one has a problem with the 1896 Mauser in Joe Kid for the same reason.

In a lot of these circumstances - especially when the knife really stands out - it's worthwhile to think about why that is. The people that made Magnificent Seven were just as aware of how much a switch blade would stand out as we are, and chose it anyway because it must have been period correct, and interesting. Coburns character replaces the master swordsman in Seven Samurai.

The Cold Steel knives in Vietnam movies is product placement - they helped get the movie made and gave Cold Steel some advertising. I don't think they looked out of place in the era of Gerber Mk IIs.

Well switchblade technology existed prior to the civil war, so it's not out of the realm of possibilities.

 

[EChoil]

echoil, variable tension paddle strops are a thing. Mastro Livi uses one in some of his videos, much to the dismay of many others, but his razors seem to cut!

Yeah, I realize that but it's a paddle strop.

I'm more intrigued by the fact that it was square, maybe 5"x5"x1.5"(?) from memory, wood framed, and looked as though it would almost make a decorative desk piece or paper weight. Seems like the leather was a dyed color too. That's also why I said it may not be viable as a strop--just a movie prop.

You about have to see it to see what I mean. It's only shown for a second or two. Just one of those quirky things you notice, ya know?

 

[EChoil]

I remember a scene in Inglorious Basterds where a character is stropping a knife horribly wrong. Completely rounding the edge!

Baffles me the way some of the movies and TV shows show someone stropping a razor at 180 KPH up and down a meter-long strip of leather, flipping it up on every lift. Never seen a real stropper do that....I suppose one could though.

 

[Llasi]

Then we have A Spanish 1941 bayonet that turns up in the hands of a Vietnamese torturer in the scene from First Blood. Not entirely implossible; a Russian advisor may have collected the bayonet during WWII from the debris of the Spanish Blue Division; which served with the Nazis, and then passed it on to one of his North Vietamese students 20 years later. But, that story would have been more interestig than the movie plot.

n2s

Off Topic:
Stranger things have happened.
A Kamikaze with a Spanish pistol "Astra".

 

[Dadd-i-o]

In the movie "Sniper" with Tom Berenger, Tom's character is trying to kill a fellow sniper who is hunting him. He is dangling a knife in some water to draw the other sniper's attention. When the knife is first shown in the water, it is a cheapo hollow handled Rambo rip-off blade. After he kills the other sniper he pull the knife up out of the water and it is a Kabar or Ontario USMC knife...it drives me nuts every time I watch that movie.

 

[Lee48]

In the movie "Sniper" with Tom Berenger, Tom's character is trying to kill a fellow sniper who is hunting him. He is dangling a knife in some water to draw the other sniper's attention. When the knife is first shown in the water, it is a cheapo hollow handled Rambo rip-off blade. After he kills the other sniper he pull the knife up out of the water and it is a Kabar or Ontario USMC knife...it drives me nuts every time I watch that movie.

That's almost as bad as the infamous Bourne movie scene in which Matt Damon holds Peter Finch at bay with a changeling handgun. The autoloader varies from a SIG to a Glock in alternating closeups. Those movies have a number of mistakes but this one was the most glaring.

 

[The Whip]

So what are some major knife related mistakes you guys have noticed on TV and movies ? ( gun mistakes are the most common ) Knife mistakes can be harder to catch and are more fun to try and spot.

I've never even seen the movie, but I ran across this still photo recently and it made me cringe. Is it really that difficult to figure out how an Emerson PUK fits back into its molded Kydex insert?!

In the movie "Sniper" with Tom Berenger, Tom's character is trying to kill a fellow sniper who is hunting him. He is dangling a knife in some water to draw the other sniper's attention. When the knife is first shown in the water, it is a cheapo hollow handled Rambo rip-off blade. After he kills the other sniper he pull the knife up out of the water and it is a Kabar or Ontario USMC knife...it drives me nuts every time I watch that movie.

That one drives me crazy, too! But the knife content in the rest of the movie makes up for it. Any movie that includes the combative use of an Al Mar Shadow IV and a Combat Smatchet is OK in my book!

-Steve

 

[Nap]

Starship troopers.

Part of the training sequence is them learning to use throwing knives... in a fight against big ugly armored bugs that take a magazine or two of space blaster ammo to kill.

Later in the movie, the hero cuts off a leg/tentacle/thingy from the big armored boss alien.... with a throwing knife.

But maybe it is unrealistic to expect realism from a movie about fighting space aliens on another planet... Using infantry and shoulder mounted nukes.

You do know that Starship Troopers was satire, right? (This was perhaps a bit more clear in Heinlein's original book.)

 

[ConBon]

Off Topic:
Stranger things have happened.
A Kamikaze with a Spanish pistol "Astra".

Wow, that's strange. A bit of an interesting note like that: I was watching US Army made movies on their special forces in Vietnam, and saw many yards (Montangards if I am spelking correctly) wearing Chuck Taylors. Quite interesting, but they are a lot like modern moccasins.

Connor

 

[jackknife]

Wow, that's strange. A bit of an interesting note like that: I was watching US Army made movies on their special forces in Vietnam, and saw many yards (Montangards if I am spelking correctly) wearing Chuck Taylors. Quite interesting, but they are a lot like modern moccasins.

Connor

Stopping tothink abu tit for a moment, it make sense. When I was a kid we wore them as our go-to warm weather food gear. I don't believe that anyone can field test something like 12 year old scouts in the woods. We tramped through woods, streams marsh and fields and the Chucks stood up well. Dried out fast.

But in my own tour of Vietnam, the most prized U,S, made piece of equipment that non U,S, troops lusted after was the MIL-K pocket knife. Otherwise known as the "Demo" knife. They went nuts over them! They actually had black-market value for trading in some of the more dimly lit alleys of Saigon.

 

[ConBon]

Fascinating stuff Carl, I know that natives in special forces received Seiko watches when their RT captured a prisoner, maybe they would have preffered a few knives . I must agree, Chucks are by far one of the best values in footwear, they even have two holes for ventilation like a jungle boot if I'm not mistaken. When hunting season starts again I'm buying myself a pair to stalk. Kung fu shoes are also great for stalking, but have become a fashion item and too expensive.

Onto the OP, I believe in inglorious bastards the opening scene was a farmer chopping his axe into a chopping block. Not cutting wood just swinging into a stump. Might have been cut from other versions, this was in the theater version.


Connor