Knife order from London UK scam?

I also got this yesterday:

PLS CONFIRM IF YOU DID RECIEVE MY PREVIOUS EMAIL REGARDING THE KNIFE ORDER BELOW


Hello,
Am Sammy Williams from london uk ..i deal in antiques and i do have collections of various types of knives from all over the world as my antique collections ..presently came across your contact and am intrested in making purchase with you so please do let me know the custom knifes you have available for sale at this period and also their various prices and also as for shippment let me know if you are able to ship to me in uk or if i can make pickup arrangments with my shipper for the pickup of the purchase locally at your store after the order is been completed.

Hope to hear from you soon and have a bliss Weekend.
Sammy & Mary.


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I also got this yesterday:

PLS CONFIRM IF YOU DID RECIEVE MY PREVIOUS EMAIL REGARDING THE KNIFE ORDER BELOW


Hello,
Am Sammy Williams from london uk ..i deal in antiques and i do have collections of various types of knives from all over the world as my antique collections ..presently came across your contact and am intrested in making purchase with you so please do let me know the custom knifes you have available for sale at this period and also their various prices and also as for shippment let me know if you are able to ship to me in uk or if i can make pickup arrangments with my shipper for the pickup of the purchase locally at your store after the order is been completed.

Hope to hear from you soon and have a bliss Weekend.
Sammy & Mary.


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Give him a price and make sure you wait long enough to see if the money order is real or tell him you will only accept cash. It can be mailed via certified mail. I still think its a scam but I could be wrong.
 
There's a thread about this over on KNET, too. They must be really low on inventorying and high on cashings to need so many knifes so quickest. :jerkit:

Anyone check through the "message source" and see if it's really from the UK?
 
With stuff like this I reply that nothing ships until I have cash in hand and everything has cleared.

To date I have not had a single person from overseas using email offers, cough up any cash.

I think it is a scam Bruce.
 
I got word back from them, asking me to let them know if and when I have anything available..
as said cash will be in hand before they ship.. we'll see...:)

if someone does have the deal turn out OK or Bad please post..:)
 
100% Scam. Clearly they are looking at bladeforums and kn, and culling email addresses. There are several web sites devoted to scamming the scammers, and it's quite amazing what some folks with a lot of time and inclination have done.

Rgds,
Allgonquin
 
Call me RUDE but I finally just deleted them. Its amazing how many makers they have contacted. They probally contact other businesses as well. Why doesnt somebody cuff em and stuff em? Its illegal.
 
You know, I've gotten two of these messages in spite of the fact that on the first page of my website says I am no longer making knives. Ironically this has just changed. I am now a full time knife/damascus maker. I didn't reply. I just dealt with a maker in the U.K. with excellent result, not these two.
Thanks,
Del
 
Whoa!! I just got that one day before yesterday. I get a lot of orders and sell a number of knives to the UK, so it's not unusual for me to get enquiries from England... but this one smelled fishy to me.

And obviously it is a SCAM!

Glad I checked this forum!! Where would we be without this forum to exchange info.

Do not accept an checks or money orders from this Sam person.

RIP-OFF ALERT!
 
FYI, I got the same letter a few days ago. I deleted it, as it was obviously some sort of scam. One tip was the weird "to" address: johan@stenevad.com. They are sending these emails out in bulk without even taking the time to type in our personal names. Who are these scumbags?
 
hatte die letzte woche einen netten maikontakt :glgl:

p.s. von unten nach oben lesen..

barclayscheck.jpg


als ich dann einen scan des schecks an die barclays bank geschickt habe kam per telefon die antwort - den können sie in den mülleimer werfen..... der herr ist uns bekannt..


Hi Jurgen,
Thanks for the mail.sammy is gone back to bed .I will like to know when the
bank when the cheque will clear so that we can commence on shipping and you
can give me back the balance on the cheque as well .
Thanks
sammy's Wife Mary





>From: Jürgen Schanz <schanz-messer@t-online.de>
>To: "sammy demond" <sammydemond@hotmail.com>
>Subject: AW: AW: AW: PAYMENT UPDATE..
>Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 01:32:29 +0100
>
>dear sammy,
>thanks - i feel good! i received the cheque today.
>i´d just a little problem.
>what do you think about that?
>http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=438878
>best regards,
>juergen
>
>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>Von: sammy demond [mailto:sammydemond@hotmail.com]
>Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Dezember 2006 01:22
>An: schanz-messer@t-online.de
>Betreff: RE: AW: AW: PAYMENT UPDATE..
>
>
>Hi Jurgen,
>How are you? it's already friday and cheque should have reached you by now
>..please check your house box and get back to me
>Thanks
>Regards
>Sammy
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: Jürgen Schanz <schanz-messer@t-online.de>
> >To: "sammy demond" <sammydemond@hotmail.com>
> >Subject: AW: AW: PAYMENT UPDATE..
> >Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 00:18:30 +0100
> >
> >hello maey,
> >sorry - there is nothing comes to me.
> >best regards,
> >juergen
> >
> >-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >Von: sammy demond [mailto:sammydemond@hotmail.com]
> >Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. Dezember 2006 14:43
> >An: schanz-messer@t-online.de
> >Betreff: RE: AW: PAYMENT UPDATE..
> >
> >
> >Hello Jurgen,
> > How are you doing today? hope all is well with you
> >and
> >your family as well...just emailed to know if you had recieved the
>payment
> >from my husband's client for our purchase with you.
> >
> >Pls let us know so to give you necessary instructions to the payment and
> >shippment arrangments.
> >
> >Hope to hear from you soon.
> >Regards,
> >Mary..
> >
> > >From: Jürgen Schanz <schanz-messer@t-online.de>
> > >To: "sammy demond" <sammydemond@hotmail.com>
> > >Subject: AW: PAYMENT UPDATE..
> > >Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 00:13:47 +0100
> > >
> > >dear mrs. williams,
> > >please give your husband my best regards and a fast health from me!
> > >thanks for the information.
> > >as soon i receeived the money, i let you know.
> > >best regards,
> > >juergen schanz
> > >
> > >-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > >Von: sammy demond [mailto:sammydemond@hotmail.com]
> > >Gesendet: Montag, 11. Dezember 2006 18:42
> > >An: schanz-messer@t-online.de
> > >Betreff: PAYMENT UPDATE..
> > >
> > >
> > >Hello Jürgen ,
> > > How are you doing today, hope all is well with you and
>your
> > >family? This is Mary Williams..sammy's wife,sorry we couldn't get back
> >to
> > >you ealier to update you regarding our purchase & payment arrangments
>for
> > >the knife.
> > >
> > >Well this is due to the fact my husband sammy is presently ill and his
> > >undergoing a medical treatment towards a stroke illness he developed
> >during
> > >the weekend but he did told me to inform you that he had already
> >instruct
> > >our associate(RAINDER HELMERS) to raise the payment to you which she
>had
> > >done today and mailed out to you so should be recieving payment at your
> >end
> > >latest tommorow/Tuesday so pls do keep me posted as soon as payment has
> > >been
> > >recieved by you at your end so to conclude with the purchase in good
> > >manners.
> > >
> > >Have a wonderfull day and hope to hear from you soon.
> > >Regards,
> > >Mary Williams...
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Jürgen Schanz <schanz-messer@t-online.de>
> > > >To: "sammy demond" <sammydemond@hotmail.com>
> > > >Subject: AW: AW: AW: AW: Knife Order & Payment arrangments..
> > > >Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 20:40:25 +0100
> > > >
> > > >hello sammy,
> > > >thanks!
> > > >so i´ll wait ;-)
> > > >best regards,
> > > >juergen
> > > >
> > > >Juergen Schanz
> > > >Rheinstrasse Ost 64
> > > >76297 Stutensee
> > > >Germany
> > > >
> > > >Phone 0049/7249-952509
> > > >Fax 0049/7249-4379
> > > >
> > > >www.schanz-messer.de
> > > >
> > > >www.damast-ringe.de
> > > >
> > > >-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > >Von: sammy demond [mailto:sammydemond@hotmail.com]
> > > >Gesendet: Freitag, 1. Dezember 2006 10:57
> > > >An: schanz-messer@t-online.de
> > > >Betreff: RE: AW: AW: AW: Knife Order & Payment arrangments..
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Hello Jurgen,
> > > > Thanks alot for the email, well i did
> >recieve
> > > >your
> > > >details for the payment so will be instructing my client to have the
> > >check
> > > >raised and mail out to you for the payment for my purchase.
> > > >
> > > >We also look forward in building a good & long term business
> >relationship
> > > >with you and will be keeping you posted as soon as payment has been
> > >sent.
> > > >
> > > >Thanks,
> > > >Sammy & Mary..
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: Jürgen Schanz <schanz-messer@t-online.de>
> > > > >To: "sammy demond" <sammydemond@hotmail.com>
> > > > >Subject: AW: AW: AW: Knife Order & Payment arrangments..
> > > > >Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:37:39 +0100
> > > > >
> > > > >dear sammy,
> > > > >adress is at the end of the mail.
> > > > >30% of 4100.- will be 1230euro.
> > > > >as soon i´d the money at my account i will beginn to made you a
> >famous
> > > > >flamedagger!
> > > > >best regards,
> > > > >juergen
> > > > >
> > > > >p.s. if you need iban and swift code, please let me know.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Juergen Schanz
> > > > >Rheinstrasse Ost 64
> > > > >76297 Stutensee
> > > > >Germany
> > > > >
> > > > >Phone 0049/7249-952509
> > > > >Fax 0049/7249-4379
> > > > >
> > > > >www.schanz-messer.de
> > > > >
> > > > >www.damast-ringe.de
> > > > >
> > > > >-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > > >Von: sammy demond [mailto:sammydemond@hotmail.com]
> > > > >Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. November 2006 14:56
> > > > >An: schanz-messer@t-online.de
> > > > >Betreff: RE: AW: AW: Knife Order & Payment arrangments..
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Hello Jurgen,
> > > > > Thanks alot for the email, well as for the
> > > >purchase
> > > > >am okay with the cost and am willing to proceed with purchase as
>well
> > >so
> > > > >pls
> > > > >do let me have your details then i can instruct my associate to
>issue
> > >out
> > > >a
> > > > >certified check to you inEuros for the payment for my purchase.
> > > > >
> > > > >Thanks,
> > > > >Sammy..
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: Jürgen Schanz <schanz-messer@t-online.de>
> > > > > >To: "sammy demond" <sammydemond@hotmail.com>
> > > > > >Subject: AW: AW: Knife Order & Payment arrangments..
> > > > > >Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 22:54:05 +0100
> > > > > >
> > > > > >dear sammy,
> > > > > >the flammendolch will only made by order. i didnt have one in
> >stock.
> > > > > >delivery time will be 8 month. the flammendolch was my
>masterpiece.
> >i
> > > > >work
> > > > > >about 140 hours on it.
> > > > > >the price will be 4100.-euro. the guard and the end of the handle
> >is
> > > >made
> > > > > >from sterling silver. blade from ats34.
> > > > > >because its a lot of time, i invest at a piece like that, i need
>an
> > > > >advance
> > > > > >payment for about 30% - is that ok?
> > > > > >can you also give me please your adress?
> > > > > >thanks in advance and best regards,
> > > > > >juergen
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Juergen Schanz
> > > > > >Rheinstrasse Ost 64
> > > > > >76297 Stutensee
> > > > > >Germany
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Phone 0049/7249-952509
> > > > > >Fax 0049/7249-4379
> > > > > >
> > > > > >www.schanz-messer.de
> > > > > >
> > > > > >www.damast-ringe.de
> > > > > >
> > > > > >-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > > > >Von: sammy demond [mailto:sammydemond@hotmail.com]
> > > > > >Gesendet: Mittwoch, 29. November 2006 18:11
> > > > > >An: schanz-messer@t-online.de
> > > > > >Betreff: RE: AW: Knife Order & Payment arrangments..
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Hello Jurgen,
> > > > > > Thanks alot for the email, well as for my
> >purchase
> > >i
> > > > >have
> > > > > >been to your website and foundout the knifes you carry..i will be
> > > >needing
> > > > > >to
> > > > > >order for the kinfe below
> > > > > >
> > > > > >***FLAMMENDOLCH
> > > > > >
> > > > > >so please do let me know if this kinfe is available and also the
> >last
> > > > > >selling price and as for i can have my shipper pickup the
>purchase
> >at
> > > > >your
> > > > > >end for delivery to me after purchase i completed and as for
> >payment
> > >i
> > > > >can
> > > > > >instruct my associate to issueout a certified check in EUROS or
> > > > > >international money order to your information(name,Mailing
>address
> >&
> > > > > >phone#)
> > > > > >so please do let back to me with the selling price as well as the
> > > >details
> > > > > >to
> > > > > >issueout the check to.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Thanks,
> > > > > >Sammy & Mary.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >From: Jürgen Schanz <schanz-messer@t-online.de>
> > > > > > >To: <sammydemond@hotmail.com>
> > > > > > >Subject: AW: Knife Order
> > > > > > >Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 20:32:00 +0100
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >hello mr. williams,
> > > > > > >thanks for your interest!
> > > > > > >the only knifes which are in stock, are in my website - please
> >have
> > >a
> > > > > >look
> > > > > > >there.
> > > > > > >payment for customers outside germany will be made only by
> >advance
> > > > > >payment,
> > > > > > >also i accept when you bring me the money, when you pick em up
> >from
> > > > >here.
> > > > > > >best regards,
> > > > > > >juergen schanz
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Juergen Schanz
> > > > > > >Rheinstrasse Ost 64
> > > > > > >76297 Stutensee
> > > > > > >Germany
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Phone 0049/7249-952509
> > > > > > >Fax 0049/7249-4379
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >www.schanz-messer.de
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >www.damast-ringe.de
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > > > > >Von: sammy & mary antiques [mailto:mary.williams@buzonabc.com]
> > > > > > >Gesendet: Sonntag, 26. November 2006 14:27
> > > > > > >An: undisclosed-recipients:
> > > > > > >Betreff: Knife Order
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Hello ,
> > > > > > > Am sammy Williams from london uk ..i deal in
>antiques
> > >and
> > > >i
> > > > > >do
> > > > > > >collections of various types of knifes from all over the world
> > > > > > >as my antique collections ..present came across your contact
>and
> > > > > > >am intrested in making purchase with you so please do let me
> > > > > > >know the custom knifes you have available for sale at this
> > > > > > >period and also their various prices and also as for shippment
> > > > > > >let me know if you are able to ship to me in uk or if i can
>make
> > > > > > >pickup arrangments with my shipper for the pickup of the
> > > > > > >purchase localy at your store after the order is been
>completed.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Hope to hear from you soon.
> > > > > > >sammy & Mary Williams
> > > > > > >
 
I'll interpret the German parts of Jürgen's post for your benefit ;):

TRANSLATION

hatte die letzte woche einen netten maikontakt :glgl:

p.s. von unten nach oben lesen..
I had a nice email last week :glgl:
P.S.: read from bottom up

*scan of cheque*

als ich dann einen scan des schecks an die barclays bank geschickt habe kam per telefon die antwort - den können sie in den mülleimer werfen..... der herr ist uns bekannt..

When I sent Barclays Bank a scan of the cheque, the answer came via telephone: You can ditch this one... this person is no stranger to us...

*emails*

/TRANSLATION

So you see, all of you who supposed it was a scam were right. Barclays Bank is trying to get hold of that guy(s). Hopefully, they'll succeed.

Ookami
 
I though they banned knives in the UK !! They seem so obvous to me to be scams .In any case get you're money first !!!
 
I though they banned knives in the UK !!


The b*****s would like to I'm sure. :jerkit:
Don't know what I'm supposed to seperate one piece of steak from another with if they ever manage it though !

The day they finally manage to make it unlawful for me to own a sharp piece of steel to use and carry on private property will be the day I either become a criminal or emigrate.
 
I live in Europe where mony orders are hard to get. my bank can not supply me with a money order. They can get me a bankcheque, but this is developed to transfer large amounts of money from one bank to another and are very expensive . The only way is to go to western union, one of the last remaining ways to send money this way.
I have in the past paid in cash US dollars send by mail. But prefer CC and Paypal.
Money orders and cheques are not popular or even used anymore in most European countries, most transactions are electronic (safer) or with plain cash.
 
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