Knife people shouldn't do this!

Esav Benyamin said:
I have come to understand that anyone who wants to borrow a knife, because they do not have one of their own, most probably does not know how to use one. They don't know how to use one safely. They don't know how to use one effectively.

The answer is no. No you can't borrow it. No I won't do the job for you.

That way they can't hurt themselves with my knife. They can't damage property with my knife. They can't say I'm threatening anyone by having a knife.

It's not just knives. I won't lend out my pens, either. I had one woman actually manage to destroy a Cross ballpoint, trying to retract the point.
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Recently I started asking men who ask to borrow a knife if they were boy scouts. if the answer is no then I ask "what can I cut for you".

with women, well, I work with a lot of hard workin dykes, so it depends.
 
I'm surprised how many people out there are intimidated by a pocket knife. At work, I'll pull my rat trap out to use it for something, and invariably someone will be staring at it and asking some kind of question. Doesn't make sense to me, I've always carried a pocket knife. And it's not like I pulled a Battle Rat out of a sheath, it's just a little folder! Well I guess I'm just venting. The sheeple need to get some cojones!
 
MrPres said:
And it's not like I pulled a Battle Rat out of a sheath, it's just a little folder! Well I guess I'm just venting. The sheeple need to get some cojones!
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What bothers me most is.... I don't even carry a knife to defend myself. The knives I EDC I/most knife people, would consider "working knives. Vic Farmer, Buck 112, Opinel #7. I guess they would work in a pinch, but I have never looked at them that way. I just know, and was raised such,that carrying a knife was what you should do. From my Gran-dad, Father, and the Scouts. This Sheeple notion that all knives are a "weapon" drives me nuts. O.K. maybe I should have posted this in Wine and Cheese. Just ranting I guess. :o
 
puukkoman said:
Glad I haven't had any negative experiences yet.
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A co-worker needing a knife, and then refering to a small, non-locking, pocket knife as a weapon; I'm sorry but I consider that to be a negative experience..... Chances are it's not the first time she needed a knife at the workplace, and she probably uses a large kitchen knife for preparing meals, probably used a 4" bladed (serrated) steak knife on more than one occassion. And yet, in her mind, your old-fashioned pocket-knife was seen as a "weapon.":confused:

While I think it's great that you were able to educate someone about the fact that knives are useful as tools. It's just sad that the person you educated was an adult who's experiences should have caused her to learn that particular lesson on her own, a long time ago.
 
Last summer (before I was a knife nut) I had a little SAK classic Knock-off and I was using it to cut something, I was being very discrete. But, sure enough, someone saw it and said "what the hell, you carry a knife?!" I didnt respond.



-[digidude]
 
These situations are such that someone carrying a larger knife will be hanged on size rather than sharpness. (Even a small knife can cause cuts if one slides their finger down the blade.)

Our society was well on the way to regulating firearms in this country when we got hit with a series of natural disasters. So did other countries. We saw Katrina, and before that Hurricane Andrew; we saw the tsunami in the Far East. Suddenly, it seemed with New Orleans, we realized, hey, we've got to be in a position to do things for ourselves. Cops, emergency personnel, they're not always guaranteed to be there. Then it's up to us. And we're woefully unprepared.

We simply have to remembered that the people we work with and associate with on a daily basis have been conditioned to go "EEeeek!" when they see anything capable of causing harm. Even cops scream, "Gun!" or "Knife!" every time they see one and often even they overreact.

It's just good to remember the society one lives in. Don't matter what it used to be like in the good ol' days. It's what it is.
 
Reading these always makes me even more glad that I'm a fireman. Almost everyone at work has at least one knife on them, many carry switchblades.

Every firehouse has at least one guy with a gun in his locker. We shoot our bows and clean our guns during hunting season.

Some guys butcher their deer at work.


God I'm glad sheeple can't be firemen ! :D
 
Last year I worked on an isolated northern Ojibway reserve. Of the few stores on the reserve, one is significantly larger. I often see co-workers there.

On this particular day, I had several knives on me. One of them was an old Imperial slipjoint I had picked up on eBay. It snapped shut impressively. I had just put a razor's edge on it using my Sharpmaker.

While waiting in line to pay for some groceries, I noticed one of my co-workers, a kindergarten teacher, struggling with a package containing a mosquito net. After watching him struggle for about five minutes, I bit the bullet and asked him if he wanted to borrow a knife. He said, "Yes, please." He seemed relieved. He successfully opened the knife, and it went through the package like a light sabre.

Then he went to close it. One hand pinched the blade, and he folded the other around the handle, in the way of the closing blade. Before he could cut himself, I quickly said, "Careful, it's sharp!"

I was shocked that someone would be so foolish as to leave his fingers in the way as he closed a knife.
 
This whole people borrowing knives they have no idea how to use reminds me a lot of all the idiots the river outfitters put on the Guadalupe River in canoes back in the 80's and 90s.

Every one of them was totally clueless about the handling of said watercraft and usually got themselves and whoever else shared the canoe with them into dire straights really quickly. Simply turning over at the first ripple rapids they encountered was a good lesson and the first in a long day of which the lucky majority came through without real injury. I, and the other informal rescue squad, used to joke about all the guys who lied to their GFs about their prowess with a canoe despite the fact their entire knowledge seemed to center around knowing how to spell and pronounce the word. I carried a Gerber River Shorty as one of the more frequent idiocies was to put an icechest full of beer on a rope tied behind. Invariably the canoe went on one side of a large rock and the tube to the other with the expected bad results.....
 
i just remembered, i haven't read the darwin awards for a long time ^ ^
 
If you roll your window down to give a bum a dollar you can get tuberculosis/hep-C spit in your eye. If you render aid to an accident victim you can be sued (do not count on good samaritan laws!!!). "Roadside emergencies" can just as well be car-jacking schemes...

Sad.... but very true.
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Is it? Seriously? Because crime statistics say that you're about as safe now as you *ever* would have been in the U.S.

TV news gives a skewed perspective on actual statistical risk. Don't believe the hype. I believe in the right to self defense, but I also understand that there's been hardly any place in human history that we're less likely to need to exercise that right.
 
I had someone who closed my Buck 110 by holding it point down, in a full grip, pressing the lock with a thumb, and pushing the blade against her leg. It promptly snapped shut on her fingers, despite my warning.
 
spinynorman said:
TV news gives a skewed perspective on actual statistical risk. Don't believe the hype. I believe in the right to self defense, but I also understand that there's been hardly any place in human history that we're less likely to need to exercise that right.
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Threat analysis consists of two parts, both of which need to be taken seriously.

One is the probability of harm. You're right, we live in a civilization, where common risks to life and limb are relatively rare.

Two, however, is the severity of the harm, however improbable. If the risk could be life-threatening, you have to absolutely minimize exposure to it, even if it is unlikely, especially if exposure is unnecessary.

DON'T roll your window down. The bum won't starve for lack of your donation. It will just take him longer to collect enough for his next bottle of wine.

DON'T stop for a roadside "accident". Call the police on your cellphone and ask them to check if the guy is in need or is a carjacker.

Remember the first rule of self defense: Don't Go There.
 
I work at a beach with two girls, and we're usually out in the middle of nowhere putting up/taking down fencing and things like that. We need to cut string and zip ties on a daily basis, so a knife is pretty much required. Both girls have really low quality chinese folders, one of which broke durring use. They are both constantly forgeting to bring them in, and then have the nerve to make fun of me for carying two. One of my edc's is a multi-tool since we werent supplied with any tools but they're often needed. The other knife was originally a buck 105 that they referred to as "the weapon", which I admit was a bit big for the job, but I didnt have a smaller fixed blade and folders dont work too well with sand in them. The 105 was replaced by a CRKT Sting, since it was coated to prevent rust as well as a smaller size, and could be carried in my boot and was less noticable. I found the double edge to be useful when cutting huge tangles of rope. One of the girls actually liked it, but still made fun of me for having it.

The beach wears down knives faster than I thought and to keep from ruining the Sting, I replaced it with a cheap but reliable(put it through years of hard use) folder. The folder is now rusted, stained, and fairly dull, I expect this to be it's last days as an edc.
 
Personally, I agree I never lend my knife out at work, and I always do my best to not use my bm stryker. when any one else is around, or near the cameras (Big Brother is definatly watching).:grumpy:
Just the other day, I had to replace a printer cartridge at work, I made sure that I moved out of site of the cameras, and away from my co-workers. you just never know when a sheeple will cause problems.:eek: and plus there's never any scissors around when you need one.
 
JWBirch said:
Also remember that some folks in your office may ask you a "what do you have to open this with" question just to see if they can get you to pull out something that they can use later in a "hostile workplace environment case".

Wow, I really sound cynical lately...
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not at all. I have had this happen. I worked in a fiberglass molding department and we had to cut stuff all the time. We went through the disposable blades so quick sometimes we ran out and me and a few workers would use our pocket knives till we could round up more blades. Well I carry a CRKT M16. I argued with my foreman one day about a quality control issue and then about 2 hrs later I was escorted off the property by the police for carrying a weapon! I said what about their pocket knives? They carried little cheapos that dont look as scary as the M16 so I was fired for that. I learned my lesson never use my knives at work if anyone else is around. I use my multitools blade till the cows come home and no one cares one bit. Even though it is a 3.5" blade.
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saturnine138 said:
The beach wears down knives faster than I thought and to keep from ruining the Sting, I replaced it with a cheap but reliable(put it through years of hard use) folder. The folder is now rusted, stained, and fairly dull, I expect this to be it's last days as an edc.
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Get a serrated Spyderco Salt. It will hold up well to cutting, even with the sand and the humidity -- it's completely rust-proof H1 steel. The different models run $50 to $60. Get one with the yellow handle and it won't even seem as weapon-like to non-knife people.
 
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