Knife-Resistant Children's Clothing

Pretty soon they'll have armored plated school buses :grumpy: ....you're right, it's pretty sad when you think about it. And my wife wonders why I never relax when we're out in public with the kids.....you just never know.....
 
Josh Feltman said:
Knife-resistant children's clothing in Japan

Neat innovation, but what a sad thing when you stop to think about it. I wonder how long it will be before we see it here in the US. Danny in Japan, how long until you are going to be Danny in Texas again?

--Josh

What is the chance of a child being involved of one of these highly publicized knifings vs some other more mundane mishap?

Somehow, I think that for the not inconsiderable price of one of these garments, the child could be protected from one or more other dangers that they are much more likely to encounter.

It sort of seems similar to asking them to wear a flotation device and a helmet at all times.
 
Seems to me that judo lessons would be more effective. :barf: Sheeple. How I despise them.
 
a marketing ploy for the paranoid, any idea how many( millions I'm sure) people in japan, sounds like a reaction to one incident. I'm guessing the odds say it's not a problem. Can't really protect against a wacko, they will just find another way. I think it's better to find the wackos.....and put them some place where they can't hurt anybody.

What is interesting is that some people see something like this and get excited and then when you start talking about car accidents or other things that are much more likely ( statictically speaking) virtually no reaction at all.
I'm sure that more kids in japan are probably killed by trains and autos.

perceptions are a weird thing.....
 
Wasn't one of the students cut in the throat?

In that situation the jacket wouldn't be much use if it wasn't a turtleneck.
 
Anyone else here got kids? Do they wear their coats when you want them to? Do they wear anything you want them to? Especially if you're not around?
a marketing ploy for the paranoid, any idea how many( millions I'm sure) people in japan, sounds like a reaction to one incident.
Sounds about right to me.
 
RonS said:
A couple of years ago somebody was selling bullet proof bookbags.

i know they still make them for adults... looks and works like an ordinary computer case, but has a level III ballistic panel on the inside...

man, i remember when i was a kid... we didnt wear helmets or pads... if you fell down and cracked your head open, you went and saw mom... she would pick the gravel out of it, spuirt some neosporin on it, and you were back out the door...

seems to me like a segment of our society is trying to take the fun out of being a kid...
 
the bookbags make sense

its so if their glock misfires from inside, no safety an all.....

All the schoolchildren like the glocks....

:D :D :D
 
manghu67 said:
man, I remember when I was a kid... we didnt wear helmets or pads... if you fell down and cracked your head open, you went and saw mom... she would pick the gravel out of it, spuirt some neosporin on it, and you were back out the door...


You had it easy, My mom used Mecurochrome on us. I can still remember the burning. Hydrogen Peroxide? NOT we got rubbing alcohol to clean our wounds!

I'm only 30 something, Munk probably remembers them using hot irons to burn out infections!
 
im 30ish and got the alcohol treatment as well... if i was lucky... usually, mom would just SCRUB it! :eek:
 
Heck, now the Neosporin comes with Lidocaine in it. Wimps.

That orange Mecurochrome was a badge of honor when I was little. Some kids called it war paint.

But what is bad is having to scrub down a big patch of road-rash.

Did some sort of serious cycling for a while, and cleaning up after a bad spill, that is no fun.
 
I plan on returning to texas in 24 months.
I think 5 years is all I can take of Japan.

The problem with all of this is the school system in Japan.
Here's how it works:

Parents want the schools to raise their kids for them. They are explicit about this.

The schools want the kids to learn to "control themselves."
(They came up with this retarded idea about using peer pressure to get kids to be good in class.)

So, teachers just let the kids act out and hope that their fellow students will teach them how to behave. When there is something serious going on, its always far too late for teachers to do anything. When they actually think to do something, they run to the office and ask someone at another school what they should do, no, wait a minute, they ask somebody from another school WHO they should ask about that kind of situation if it ever should occur.

It doesnt work.
The truth is, every day in Tokyo, there is a bad fight or assault or aggravated assault with a deadly weapon or a rape or assaulting a teacher or (last year in my school) the kids beat a teacher until he has a heart attack and dies.

The entire nation of japan is about equal to a low low middle-class american town. the schools reflect it.
This place is going downhill fast and the crime is that Japanese culture is totally incapable of recognizing or dealing with change.

Look at this: "...Japan has always prided itself on its low crime rate, but concern over child safety has grown after a series of crimes involving children. An intruder attacked pupils with a knife at a primary school in western Japan in December 2003 and an 11-year-old schoolgirl murdered a classmate in June by slashing her throat. "

Japan has maintained a pride over a low crime rate by not reporting crimes. Their crime rate that was about the same as every other country on the planet. Please dont quote any web stats to me, I live here and I watch this crap happen every day.
Concerned over child safety ?
They are about as concerned over the soy sauce. What would you have expected them to do? Put a police officer or trained security guard in every school?
No.
They installed a gate.
It doesnt lock, cause the cars have to go through it, but there is a 4 foot high gate now.
 
silly and useless.
a mugger ect would just stab em in the head or throat. :grumpy:

as usual a ploy to make money from loving scared parents. :rolleyes:

sad the way our world is heading :)
 
Obviously, the protective clothing is absurd. Japan is not alone in wanting the schools to act "in loco parentis." (In place of the parent) Double incomes are almost mandatory for folks these days, and the parenting time and skills suffer enormously.

And yes, I grew up when mercurochrome was the remedy of choice; that, or the soap scum from the brown soap for the kitchen sink ?American Family? that had congealed on the bar. This was spread over the cut...lye soap, I think...then bandaged with gauze and adhesive tape.

But then, I was the only boy child, and youngest of three children, of a career 3rd grade public school teacher in Chicago. If my mother didn't see blood or bone protruding through the flesh, I went to school. :( And it had to be a LOT of blood. If there was a problem at school, it WAS NOT the school's fault.

I try very hard not to get wroth at things humans do these days. But the danger I see to children comes from abuse, neglect, and ignorance of parents in dealing with their children. What infuriates me is that it is a learned social trait, with the abused becoming an abuser, or often, the victim of abuse seeking out others who will abuse them as they were in childhood.

And I don't see a remedy, nor a social mandate to seek one.


But if I were God for a week, say....there would be innumberable piles of dust where once stood an abusing spouse or parent or boyfriend.


Kis
TheWrathful
 
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