Knife sharpening.

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Yesterday I had the day to myself, as Karen went flying with some of the family. Her sisters fella is a private pilot, and they took advantage of the nice day to fly. I chose to stay home and hold down the fort with Pearl, the wonder corgi, as I thought it was just too nice a day to be cooped up in a Cessna cabin.

Pearl and I took a walk in the woods by the house, and as usual we stopped by the fallen tree to whittle a bit. I don't know why, but sitting on a fallen tree in the woods on a nice day, listening to the wood thrush and slicing paper thin slivers from a poplar stick is relaxing as all heck to me. The corgi dose'nt mind, she likes to sit up on the fallen tree and survey her woods for evil squirrels that need to be chased back up trees before something bad happens.

By and by I noticed the knife was not slicing really up to parr, so it was time for a touch up. The day before I had broken down some cardboard boxes, and coragated cardboard is hard on edges. As I always have that little cut down Eze-lap diamond hone in my wallet, touch up was right there. As I slowly honed the blade in small circles from heel to tip I thought about knife sharpening. I'd done it this way since I was a kid, and under Mr. Van's watchful eye, we got good at it.

I understand that now they have all kinds of gadjets for sharpening your knife, like sharpmakers, and do-dads that clamp on the blade and guide it. I've never owned one of those things, and I always wondered if I was missing something. I mean how sharp is sharp? Am I not getting my knife as sharp as I could be by staying with a old and maybe obsolite way of doing things?

Sitting there in the woods sharpening my knife, I thought about it, and my minds eye recalled the picture of Mr. Van sitting by the fire and honing his old Remington scout knife on a small piece of broken off stone, and then finishing on a boot top. All his scouts for years to come always finished off the sharpening on the top of an old Chippiwa or Red Wing boot, or the back of a belt. I guess today with all the gadjets and talk of charged leather strops, it seems stone age to just have a small hone in a pocket or wallet, and just use the back of a belt to finish it off.

A single woof made me look up, and Pearl had chased another squirrel up another tree thus saving the forest again. I told her she was a good dog and to keep up the good work, and I got a tail wag in responce.

I finished up with the knife and tried it again on the stick. I was rewarded by a paper thin curl of white dry wood that made three tight coils before breaking off. That was better. I put the flat little hone back in my wallet and whittled a bit more to give Pearl more squirrel chasing time.
 
Jackknife, it was so nice to read something well and eloquently written by a grown man who knows whereof he speaks. Thank God for someone with his head screwed on straight! :thumbup:
 
Jackknife for president!

Seriously awsome post again. I personally prefer sandpaper and mousepad method just because it is the only way I have ever gotten a sharp edge, and I even tried some of the gadgets finding them not to be too useful.
 
I guess today with all the gadjets and talk of charged leather strops, it seems stone age to just have a small hone in a pocket or wallet, and just use the back of a belt to finish it off.

regardless of whether or not it is stone age, it is still the quickest, lightest, easiest to carry, simplest way to sharpen a knife. i would like to see some of the guys try to put thier sharpening gizmos in thier pockets. also, as far as i am concerned, if you can't handle a consistent angle on a stone, maybe you shouldn't be using a knife. i wasn't able to hold a good angle and get a sharp edge, but i practiced up and i can get a razor sharp edge now on almost any knife.

good old fashioned sharpening is a little bit like slippies. a little antiquated, but its still around because it works and does what it should.
 
I've tried a few gadgets over the years.

The Lansky (spelling?) worked well, but was more trouble than it was worth. It took me longer than doing it free hand. And if the blade needed a major re-profiling, it was a nightmare.

I know a lot of people love Spyderco's Sharpmaker, but I hated it. I never could get an edge I was happy with.

For kitchen use, I have one of those things with the two wheels that you draw the blade between. Gives an ok edge for the kitchen I got tired of constantly having to resharpen knives because the wife did something horrible to them.

Leo
 
I bought a couple of those gadget-sharpeners. I used them a couple of times, but now I've always been a lover of free hand sharpening.

The only real use my Lansky gets is when I need to set a new bevel on a blade, I use the coarse stone to get the bevel I want and then continue sharpening free hand.

I got a Spyderco Sharpmaker as a gift, I never used it as intended, I just use the rods (which are quite nice) on their own, as regular stones. I mean, if you need a DVD to explain how to use a sharpener, there's something wrong with it. :)
 
Jackknife for president!

I'd vote for him!

Great post Jackknife. I've recently been trying to teach myself how to sharpen freehand on a stone like my grandpa and dad did, and it's threads like this that give me the inspiration and will to learn that I need when the frustration starts setting in. Thanks Jackknife :thumbup:
 
I'd vote for him!

Great post Jackknive. I've recently been trying to teach myself how to sharpen freehand on a stone like my grandpa and dad did, and it's threads like this that give me the inspiration and will to learn that I need when the frustration starts setting in. Thanks Jackknife :thumbup:

NO, I DON'T WANT THE JOB!!!!:eek:

All kidding aside, I'm very honnored that I can provide some sort of inspiration to sharpen free hand. Its not hard once you get the feel of it.

First, don't try to do it like the magazine and books tell you, by starting at the heel of the blade and trying to "slice a layer off the the stone" motion, then a swipe on the other side. This is self defeating for the method.

Take a dry earase marker and darken the edge of the knife with it.

Take the knife and lay the edge on the stone at the heel of the blade at an angle that is close to what you want. Start with moderate preasure moving the blade in small circles, slowly moving toward the tip of the knife with overlapping circles. Take about a minute to get from heel to tip. Look at the dry erase marking, has it been wipped off in the proper bevel to the very edge?. If so, you have the right angle. Turn the blade over to do the other side the same way. Again, take a full minute to get from heel to tip, moving the blade in small overlapping circles. By not taking the knife edge off the stone, and keeping a steady contact, many people find it easier to maintain a constant bevel angle. Again look at the marker, you may have to re-mark the blade edge with the dry erase marker if there is a narrow band of color at the edge.

Keep doing this on each side for a minute at a time. Re-mark the edge after each honing to see where you are making a bevel. By and by you will get the feel of where the angle is and how to hold it while making the honing circles. As the knife gets sharp, you may want to back off on the presure on the stone/hone to get a more fine polished edge. It just takes practice to get the feel. Once you do, you'll be able to sharpen any time or anyplace in just a few minutes with a small flat pocket hone. Finish by slowly stopping on the back of your belt, or a old belt gued down on a flat piece of wood. You'll end up with a shaving sharp blade in a very little time or effort, with a minimum of gear.

I hope this helps somebody. If somebody has any photos to post of this that would be good. I'm not the brightest bulb in the chandalier so I may not have explained it real well. :confused:
 
Actually, you explained it great! And thanks for the tips. I remember my grandpa using the circle method to sharpen his pocketknife, and he always made it look so easy to get a razor sharp edge on it. Of course, the fact that he never let it get all that dull in the first place may have had something to do with it.
 
I like jackknife's method of moving the blade in small circles. It's the way I was taught too. Works on any hone of any size or condition, and you can hold the angle easier.

the problem with the "slicing a layer off the stone" method is that it's real hard to hold the angle, and most people will screw it up. I do use that method, but pretty much only on fine stones or a few swipes for touchup. You have to be pretty careful to hold the angle right even then.

Honing in small circles is a lot easier to learn, and small hones are more affordable
 
Circles are good, BUT be sure your angle is consistent.
Do this by hold the stone vertically so you can see & FEEL the blade working.
The blade should only be off the stone = blade thickness.
 
I use the "small circles, heel to tip" method as described and finish it off with a few light "slicing off a thin layer of the stone" on the smoothest (fine) side of the stone - to even the edge out. I never tried the belt thing before, but you can bet I'm going to give it a try from now on!
 
Got a source for small hones?

For about the last 15-20 years I've been using one of those Eze-lap ones that is a flat red piece of plastic about 6 inches long, and has a 3/4 inch wide by 2 inch long piece of diamond plate on it. I cut off the red plastic handle so the whole thing is about 3 1/2 inches long. It fits in my wallet, so its always there. I like the Eze-lap stuff, but DMT has a keyring model that is good too.

They come color coded for grit. The pouple is a medium grit, the red is fine, and the green in an ultra fine. I find the red(fine) with a leather belt stropping after will give a good razor edge.
 
Thank you Jackknife for letting me know that I am not alone in world gone mad with technology.

I, too, use the circle method for sharpening. That is how I was taught in the Boy Scouts. I spent many years in a packing house and we did not have anything fancy to use. We did use slate from old pool tables to put a razor edge on. Most of used a steel made from a file and a ceramic stick for the quick touch up. I guess what worked then still works now.

Thank you for the insightful posts.
 
Circle method? I'll have to give that a try! I once struck a very good deal on a Fallkniven DC3 "stone" (one side is diamond and the other ceramic, size .98 in. x 2.95 in. so very pocketable) and a DC4 (same story, but bigger) but i never got to using them properly, apparently because i was trying to use the evil slice cutting method.
And i have to admit, while carrying a Sharpmaker in your back pocket you wear out your pants a lot quicker ;)
 
Well JK, I tried your circle method today on the sheepsfoot blade of the Uncle Henry 897UH I'm carrying and I must say, I'm impressed by how well it seems to work for me. I'm not a master at it yet, can't quite get that shaving sharp edge, but I was able to get it a lot sharper than I could by using the slicing method. Thanks for the great tip.
 
Well JK, I tried your circle method today on the sheepsfoot blade of the Uncle Henry 897UH I'm carrying and I must say, I'm impressed by how well it seems to work for me. I'm not a master at it yet, can't quite get that shaving sharp edge, but I was able to get it a lot sharper than I could by using the slicing method. Thanks for the great tip.

If you're not quite getting that razor edge yet, try backing off some on the preasure on the stone/hone a bit after you get it pretty sharp. Also the stropping on the back of a belt can put it over the top to a shaving edge.

Keep at it, and good luck with it. I just wish I were closer so I could give you some over the shoulder coaching.
 
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