Knife Show Wisdom

I'm in the same boat as Peter, there's not many knife shows in New England except for small shows. It's a good hike to attend the 2 New York shows from where I live.

All of the advice here is great. The only thing that I can add is if you can only go to one show per year, try to make the Blade Show.

I attended my first Bladeshow last year. There's nothing like it. I'll definitely be attending Blade from now on.

Jim Treacy
Typical New Englander. I remember people in Hartford thinking that driving to New York or Boston for the day was like running the Iditarod :D By contrast, my family, who were use to Florida and making drive from Miami to Atlanta in one long day, set out from Hartford one early Sunday morning, had lunch in Boston and technically saw every state in New England except for Rhode Island by dinnertime.;)
 
Lots of good stuff here from both sides of the aisle. My first knife show was the 1978 Guild show in K.C. been to quite a few. Speaking to other knifemakers here... I'd add that it's extremely rude to snag somebody away from another maker's table to show them something. You can wait til they are at least between tables. That's happened several times. Speaking to the customers... I'm aware that many people are expert at martial arts, and I'm sure we could make some arrangements for you to try some movements with a blade in a private room... but the aisle between the tables during the show is not the time or place for that! If people around you become frightened by your actions then they are, by definition, inappropriate. Some common sense will take you a long way at a show! By the way, I'll be at BLADE in Atlanta in May... first show in some years.
 
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Typical New Englander. I remember people in Hartford thinking that driving to New York or Boston for the day was like running the Iditarod :D By contrast, my family, who were use to Florida and making drive from Miami to Atlanta in one long day, set out from Hartford one early Sunday morning, had lunch in Boston and technically saw every state in New England except for Rhode Island by dinnertime.;)

Joe,
You probably saw Rhode Island too. You just went through it so quick you didn't notice.

Jim Treacy
 
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Joe,
You probably saw Rhode Island too. You just went through it so quick you didn't notice.

Jim Treacy
Nah.....we went up 91 to Springfield and then over to Boston.
 
Lots of good stuff here from both sides of the aisle. My first knife show was the 1978 Guild show in K.C. been to quite a few. Speaking to other knifemakers here... I'd add that it's extremely rude to snag somebody away from another maker's table to show them something. You can wait til they are at least between tables. That's happened several times. Speaking to the customers... I'm aware that many people are expert at martial arts, and I'm sure we could make some arrangements for you to try some movements with a blade in a private room... but the aisle between the tables during the show is not the time or place for that! If people around you become frightened by your actions then they are, by definition, inappropriate. Some common sense will take you a long way at a show! By the way, I'll be at BLADE in Atlanta in May... first show in some years.
Good to see you bad, sir. I know what you mean about the martial arts thing. I had some guy pick up a couple of my knives at my second show which was in Belgium and start doing some trickery. If that wasn't enough, he tried to lowball me on a knife and then he wanted me to sell him one of the sheaths sans knife.:D
 
Really? People do kung fu with your knives? Sheesh:rolleyes:
I've heard the term used, and I just don't understand what it means:o. What is 'coon fingering'?:confused:
 
At a Blade Show several years ago I saw a guy single handedly clear our isle of all potential customers by swinging a sword around like he was Conan. He was sharply dressed in a tweed jacket doing his thing, missed a lady that was walking along looking at the tables behind him, by mere inches. He had no clue what had nearly happened. I could not find a single Blade Show official; that "expert" needed to be gone. He went through his act at three different tables that I could see from my table. This was the same show that had the cowboy with the bull whip clearing other isles.

At the Little Rock show a young lady picked up a knife and was waving it around. I don't know if the maker said anything because I was a little far off and wasn't interested in getting closer, but he sure looked like he wished he had that knife back on his table. A crowded show is no place for that kind of activity and he would have been justified in telling her to place the knife back on the table.

At a show some years ago a sword maker I saw would allow a customer to pick up the sword, but the tip had to remain on the table. To me, it was a good idea then and is a good idea now. It would work well for large Bowie knives too.

You do need to be aware that many people are handling knives and may not realize that you are walking behind them. One turn in the wrong direction and you have an accident. Just walking into a large knife being held by someone can cause a serious cut. You have to not only be careful when handling knives, but watch out for the other guy handling knives. He may not have a clue what he is doing.
 
Typical New Englander. I remember people in Hartford thinking that driving to New York or Boston for the day was like running the Iditarod :D By contrast, my family, who were use to Florida and making drive from Miami to Atlanta in one long day, set out from Hartford one early Sunday morning, had lunch in Boston and technically saw every state in New England except for Rhode Island by dinnertime.;)

It's NOT the distance to NYC that makes it an undesirable ride. It is the traffic and congestion getting there, the inconvenience and expense to park and fear of your vehicle not leaving in the condition you went there in, that causes me to stay away!

I've driven from central CT to Cape Cod and back in a day and to Lake George and back in a day...no problem....NYC...no thanks!:D

Peter
 
It's NOT the distance to NYC that makes it an undesirable ride. It is the traffic and congestion getting there, the inconvenience and expense to park and fear of your vehicle not leaving in the condition you went there in, that causes me to stay away!

I've driven from central CT to Cape Cod and back in a day and to Lake George and back in a day...no problem....NYC...no thanks!:D

Peter
I am with you. I drive from the Cape (I LIVE on the Cape.) to CT. to visit my Dad (Middlebury.) in a day, it is no big deal. Drive to NY, forget it. You couldn't pay me enough to do it. I also hate driving to NJ too. :barf:
 
Tip for any New Englander going to an NYC show: Trains run from New Haven to NYC from every town.

Drive to Stamford, park in their lot right next to 1-95, take the train in from there and a subway right to the show. It's relaxing for much of it, it's also an adventure (Grand Central Terminal is a sight to behold!), and costs less than tolls and parking in NYC. :thumbup:

Coop
 
I have to toss this one in as this was a big one years back. I actually still get one from time to time.

Do not walk up to a makers table and grab the biggest knife, show it to your buddy, then look at the maker and say "is this the knife that OJ used? " while laughing hysterically.

Another no no is to show off your balisong skills in a crowded aisle.
BB
 
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At a Blade Show several years ago I saw a guy single handedly clear our isle of all potential customers by swinging a sword around like he was Conan. He was sharply dressed in a tweed jacket doing his thing, missed a lady that was walking along looking at the tables behind him, by mere inches. He had no clue what had nearly happened. I could not find a single Blade Show official; that "expert" needed to be gone.....

Wow Harry... that might have been the same guy that did exactly the same thing at my table at a Guild show. The sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach as I saw this all happening in cinematic slow motion was horrible. I actually became shaky from a delayed adrenaline reaction. Only a couple people saw it, but their faces went pale white. Scenarios of what could happen flashed through my mind like a horror movie... the onslaught of the press, police shutting down the show, Paramedics, TV news cameras... the descent of phalanxes of lawyers. It's all too potentially real and could be devastating for the knife show and for all shows. We need to be vigilant about preventing this sort of thing.
 
Tip for any New Englander going to an NYC show: Trains run from New Haven to NYC from every town.

Drive to Stamford, park in their lot right next to 1-95, take the train in from there and a subway right to the show. It's relaxing for much of it, it's also an adventure (Grand Central Terminal is a sight to behold!), and costs less than tolls and parking in NYC. :thumbup:

Coop
Good point, Coop. The most painful thing about driving in NYC is not the traffic, but the cost of getting just into Manhattan.:D Having driven in central Paris, New York traffic wouldn't scare me.:D
 
Hi Bobby,

Laugh out Loud...yep used to get that all the time.

I had a customer who while swinging around a knife, cut himself pretty bad.

I asked him to hand me the knife and step back from my table. He asked "Why".

I replied "Because you are bleeding all over my table cover."

He handed me the knife and left for the emergency room.

Yep you get all the Mall Ninja's swinging around the knife. When they are done I ask them..."Did you win?" :D

Another favorite (and this is without exception done only by knife maker "wannabes") They look at my table and ask "Did you make all of these?"

I respond "Yes I did and it only took a couple of weeks."

Then they start asking me about how I do particular things on the knives. If it is a slow show...I play along with them for awhile. Until they finally confess that they too are a knife maker. Good stuff/Good Fun.
 
You guys have to stop this thread right now! You are causing to give real consideration to taking in a show or two.
 
Never drive in NYC.
:D
As Coop sez, mass transit is the way to go.
I'm a born and bred native NYC-er and have never driven my car in Manhattan.

As for knife shows, you've got to go if you haven't.
The only shows I've gone to are the NYC shows for the last ten years.
Like many, I didn't 'get' the idea of top shelf customs. The magazines, while good, couldn't convey how a well made knife feels and how beautiful they can be.

At my first show I was thoroughly intimidated and underfunded.
Second show I met PhilL and he took me around to meet all the great knifemakers that I'd been reading about for years.
What a revelation and great group of people.

My explanation for non-knifeknuts is that the shows are much like going to the museum, but you are allowed to touch and talk to the artists that have created the pieces. The added bonus is the option to buy :D

Since my collecting habits are not investment oriented (haven't sold one yet), I don't really have or need a strategy going into the show.

As a smart guy on this forum once said, "I came for the knives but stayed for the people."
 
Tip for any New Englander going to an NYC show: Trains run from New Haven to NYC from every town.

Drive to Stamford, park in their lot right next to 1-95, take the train in from there and a subway right to the show. It's relaxing for much of it, it's also an adventure (Grand Central Terminal is a sight to behold!), and costs less than tolls and parking in NYC. :thumbup:

Coop

I've done that as well Coop and it IS the best way to go to NYC. Last time I did it was from N. Haven and it was very easy as far as getting off 91S and onto the train, but I just don't like having to go through that.

I really would like to go the that show some time though:D

Peter
 
Driving there really isn't THAT bad. True, you have to worry about parking. I never leave my car on the street if I don't have to so unfortunately parking in that garage was about $30 but it was safe.

I was scared to drive in manhattan when I was starting to drive but after doing it once realized its not as bad as people think.
 
1. Plan your work, and work your plan…..There are a lot of things to see at a knife show, and most of the good stuff is going to be seen at whatever public gathering place is closest to the show the night before(common area, bar or restaurant) and the first hours of the opening day of the show. If you can’t make the opening hours, don’t despair, there is always next year. Maybe call a maker you are interested in meeting before the show, and ask what they might have….and could they hold it for you to see? The answer may VERY likely be no, but it never hurts to ask.;). Steven Garsson

2. Wear comfortable clothing, bring a roomy backpack with a sweater(air conditioning gets very cold after a while), a water bottle, maybe some beef jerky or nuts to stave off starvation, shoes that can take a pounding without giving you blisters, and plenty of cash…which is king at shows. If you know yourself to be an impulsive buyer, bring a friend who can talk you out of potentially dumb purchases. IF they are that good a friend, and equally educated with knife lore, have them hold your money, too.:D Steven Garsson

3. Besides the many makers there are also a lot of dealers and sometimes they have something you will be interested in, such is the case with the last 2 NY shows. Last year a Fisk, this year a KI neither maker was there but there knives were. I really do not haggle with a maker over price but with dealers it's part of the fun, sorry guy's. jparanee

4. - It is SO worth it;
- Always ask before picking up a knife - unless the maker invites you to do so himself - then be careful how you handle it. Put it back on the table where and how you found it.
- Always ask before taking a picture of a maker's work.
-It's a tremendous learning opportunity - so use it! Talk to the makers, dealers, other collectors. Ask a bunch of questions even if you think they are stupid. Genuine enthisiasm for knives is always well received.
-Take in the whole experience - the show itself, seminars, demonstrations, cutting competitions etc.
-Try to find some fellow forumites who will be attending and make plans to hook up with them when you get there. RogerP.

5. Some people like to walk the whole show looking before making their mind up to get serious about a knife that they like. This is one of the major causes of missing good knives, right behind not getting there early enough. If you see a knife you want, buy it then; don't put it down until you and the seller have reached an agreement.

Talk to the makers. Nearly all of them are great people and they like knives too.

People talk about the costs involved with attending a show, but I will gladly pay for the opportunity to meet the makers and see the knives first hand. Hmathews

6. Courtesy for buyers. Don't stand in the way of others getting a chance to look at or purchase a makers knives! Make your decision or give others a fair chance. At almost every show I walk away from someones table because someone has blocked my ability to see the pieces. Win Heger

7. Make sure you bring some cold medicine/aspirin etc... I felt like crap the entire weekend at Blade last year to find out when I got home I had strep throat.I would have paid $50 for some good medicine sat. night, but was too damn tired to go out and get it! Matt Lamey

8. Bring a knife to get professionally photographed and its like getting a whole new knife. It just re-ups the excitement about a particular peice. And yes, you can send it to be done but its more fun in person when you can meet and talk to the photographers. Jon Brand

9. You will encounter more tables with knives that don't appeal to you than do. It's a fact. Still, we are all curious, and I like to look at most everything.

As a courtesy to the maker who has a gleam in his eye as you arrive, when it's time to move along, a straightforward look in the eye and an honest "Thank you." will relieve the discomfort on both parties as you continue on.

A backpack takes up less space than a bag or briefcase. My staple.

Those sold out knives you missed? Quite possibly they are on a dealer's table. SharpbyCoop

10. If you are a knife maker, even if you don't have a table at the show, the biggest reason for going to one of the bigger knife shows is that you will be able to find every type of supply and raw material known to mankind and actually be able to "coon finger" the stuff before you buy it. This is particularly nice when buying expensive handle materials like ivory, stag or ironwood. jdm61

11. Get a map of the floor plan for the show, and plan what makers to get to FIRST. I had pre-arranged 2 knives to pick up, so I went there first, then went on to the rest of my plan.I also wrote my screen name on my VIP badge. T.K.C.

12. If there's specific makers or knives you are interested in then contact the makers a couple weeks before the show to see what he's going to bring and find exactly where his table is located.
Blade magazine publishes a very good BLADE Show table holder's map in their magazine's show issue. I usually use the map to identify the maker's tables I want to visit first so I don't miss anyone and know exactly where their tables are located. Kevin Jones

13. Do not lay your stuff on tables. Remember, the table holder paid a minimum of $425 for their table (For 3 days). Unless you are going to pay the table holder to "rent space"...don't put your stuff on their table.

Oh the other big no no....don't lay your stuff (to include magazines and programs {people figure it's just paper and won't hurt the knives} ) on someones table to look at other knives...especially their neighbors table full of knives. A table holder, especially if they are having or had a bad show may not look kindly on this. Les Robertson

14. Part of the joy of a show is handling knives--so handle them. (With permission of course). This is the one vital thing the internet cannot provide.

Communicate with people. And don't be offended if you shook a dealer's hand two years ago for 15 seconds, introduced yourself, and he doesn't recognize you instantly. Some people do have that talent. A great many of us do not.

Stay at the show hotel. It helps the promoter, and is easy on your feet. Also you are in the center of the action for the after show/after dinner lobby get-togethers.

Savor every moment, because far too quickly the living, breathing, vibrant room of people interacting, of knives gleaming in the light, will be nothing more than a skeleton of empty tables, trash, and folded chairs. There is an inherent sadness in a knife show room after everyone has headed home. TennKnifeMan(Bruce Voyles)

15. Consider tracking down some of the show's award winning knives, examine them closely to get a feel for what makes an exceptional knife. Ask the maker, "Why do you think the judges liked this knife better than the others entered in that category?".

If I meet up with someone, often a fellow forumite, who I know to be experienced, I'll ask, "What have you seen that impressed you?" 9 times out of 10 they will say, "C'mon, I'll show you." Then we're off together, going around to different tables talking about the knives we're seeing. HTMD

16. I brought the wife, and all 5 kids. This is not recommended, the boys thought it was cool, but the wife/daughter basically put up with it,as I do their girly outings as a family (paybacks from attending the Jonas Brothers concert). cj65

17. Bring a set of fresh cotton gloves with you, that you can use when you handle those precious knives. Marcel54

18. One thing that was taught to me about delicate folding knives is that liner locks do not always have to be closed with one hand. A fingernail press may be all it takes. Don't struggle. Only working knives are best suited to one-hand operation.

Slipjoints and multiblades: Be VERY careful opening multiblades. You want to draw the blade out without any side pressure which may scratch an adjoining blade. Use the nail nick carefully and pinch it if possible. (Probably best to ask the maker his method)

Closing slipjoints: the same way and order you opened them. Let it slowly draw back into the well. No snap. SharpbyCoop

19. If you have to sneeze or cough PLEASE at least turn away from the table.... saliva is a wonderful etchant on finely finished blades. Will Leavitt

20. Budget wisely. I carry only cash. No credit cards, no debit cards, and only money I can afford to spend. I leave all other monies locked up in the car. Ren the Devil's Trailboss

21. It's extremely rude to snag somebody away from another maker's table to show them something. You can wait til they are at least between tables. That's happened several times. Many people are expert at martial arts, and I'm sure we could make some arrangements for you to try some movements with a blade in a private room... but the aisle between the tables during the show is not the time or place for that! If people around you become frightened by your actions then they are, by definition, inappropriate. Tmaring

22. Do not walk up to a makers table and grab the biggest knife, show it to your buddy, then look at the maker and say "is this the knife that OJ used? " while laughing hysterically. Bobby Branton

23. 1) Check the dealers. Often, they bring in a lot of inventory, a wide range of makers, often quite a few older pieces, and quite often several very ambitious pieces. Some dealers seem to buy and sell many, many different makers, and if you happen to be a serious enthusiast, you may know quite a bit more about the value of some of those knives than the dealer, which can obviously be useful.

2) If there is a popular maker whose stuff you know you want, be in front of the doors 2hrs before the opening and rush to their table. Several times, I have been at the doors of a show between 7 and 8, for a door opening at 11. Joss

24.Its a good idea to make a somewhat firm appointment with your favorite purveyor, maker or Danbo (LOL). Schedule some time before or during the show to get some real one on one time, get a show preview or even a "post view".Even better, set up dinner with a few of your favorite makers or fellow collectors with similar interests for the night before or first night of the show. bladeandbarrel

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
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