Knife Specific Shipping Box, would you buy it?

Would you spend the money to buy something like this?

  • Yes I would pay $3-5 each

  • Yes, go start a Kickstarter project and I will fund a few units

  • No, I always use USPS Priority free flat rate boxes

  • No, because I have a better solution

  • No, but I would pay $1-2


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If a company sold a small cardboard box made specifically for shipping knives that:

1. Has waterproof padding inside to protect the knife from rough handling during transit.
2. Save on USPS postage by being able to use First Class instead of Priority, but can still use Priority if you wish.
3. Reduced chance of getting lost or damaged during transit with USPS due to some clever packing trick that doesn't invite theft by postal workers.
4. Cost $3 to 5 each but you directly save on postage costs for the majority of cases.

Would you buy them to use for shipping your knives, at around this cost?

For a lot of people, they could be an alternative to the cheap padded zippered knife pouch everyone is familiar with. They're not a convenient way to store knives and a lot of people use Pelican cases rendering those pouches useless other than to ship. And knives frequently also get scratched on the inside of the metal zipper.

Does anyone make/sell a specialized shipping box that is the perfect size for knives? Or does anyone have a recommendation for a container ideal for folders?

I'm talking about other than the Flat Rate Small USPS Priority free box.
 
There are already sources for boxes other than USPS, which can be shipped First Class or Priority (or Express, Registered, and International, for that matter).
$3-5 each is incredibly expensive for a shipping box - especially if you are talking about Small Flat Rate size. How do you figure there is reduced chance of them getting lost due to some clever packing trick? Same question for damaged. Your statement seems to suggest that losses and damages are largely due to thieving postal workers.
How is it an alternative to padded zipper pouches? Are you suggesting that the shipping box would be so awesome that people won't bother with the pouches? Perhaps my initial reaction to the idea has to do with perspective. Are you thinking about folders, fixed blades, or both? Yes, padded pouches can be less than ideal for storage - part of that is because people/companies don't use the appropriate size. (It gets expensive buying multiple sizes, I get that, but shipping a folder in a pouch that could hold 4 or more similarly sized knives usually means that the pouch will be set aside on receipt.)
 
Sounds like a solution in search of a problem.

I simply wrap the knife in bubble wrap and tape that to the inside of a USPS Priority flat rate box then, after addressing the box, I tape the box.

Me too. Bubble wrap is pretty hard to beat. But it's not a solution in search of a problem.

I'm curious to know if there is a solution to feel safer about shipping small expensive items so they can't get stolen or lost during transit as easily. I don't think it happens very often but more often than we know about. I know a few people who have lost knives during transit that don't post about it online, I'm one of them. But I didn't make a claim with USPS because after a few call attempts, I didn't want to deal with all the follow up necessary, and plus it was a custom knife and I think they want to see a receipt or some proof of the value, which was more hassle than I wanted to deal with. I would have been more than happy to recover even the default free insurance coverage that Priority comes with, but it's the same hassle.

Given the technology available now like GPS, I would think at least some other industry would have a practical solution that we could use to ship knives while having more peace of mind, but that's basically the reason I posted this.
 
There are already sources for boxes other than USPS, which can be shipped First Class or Priority (or Express, Registered, and International, for that matter).
$3-5 each is incredibly expensive for a shipping box - especially if you are talking about Small Flat Rate size. How do you figure there is reduced chance of them getting lost due to some clever packing trick? Same question for damaged. Your statement seems to suggest that losses and damages are largely due to thieving postal workers.
How is it an alternative to padded zipper pouches? Are you suggesting that the shipping box would be so awesome that people won't bother with the pouches? Perhaps my initial reaction to the idea has to do with perspective. Are you thinking about folders, fixed blades, or both? Yes, padded pouches can be less than ideal for storage - part of that is because people/companies don't use the appropriate size. (It gets expensive buying multiple sizes, I get that, but shipping a folder in a pouch that could hold 4 or more similarly sized knives usually means that the pouch will be set aside on receipt.)

Can you share any of those sources? I threw away all my pouches when I started using a Pelican case because I originally planned on never selling any of my knives. But things change and I recently sold a knife on Ebay and the buyer complained about me using bubble wrap. He gave me a negative 1 star rating and said something like "No case, no pouch, no nothing?..on a thousand dollar knife? Seriously? If this is how you treat your customers...I'm going to warn everyone on the forums..blah blah" He got even more mad when I requested him to reconsider his rating because I never said the knife would come with an aftermarket knife pouch and his negative feedback was solely based on something I never mentioned in the description.

Almost every nice knife does arrive in a knife pouch regardless of who you buy it from, so it's reasonable for him to have the expectation of getting a $4 knife pouch with the purchase. However, how he handled it was unreasonable. I thought about putting "This knife doesn't come with a pouch" in the description, but I've never seen another post that says that in the listing. But it's probably because most do come with pouches.

Yes, I know $3-5 is crazy, especially when there is no benefit to the seller, but to keep it short, without profit, the product can't exist.

The reduced chance of loss with clever packaging- If I had the answer to this, I would have put that in the post. I'm not withholding trade secrets or high value business ideas. However, as far as solving business problems go, I don't think this would be an insurmountable challenge. Unless there was a demand for the solution or you were going in to this type of business, coming up with the clever packaging is probably a waste of time.

As for how or why knives can get lost during transit, your guess is as good as mine. I always use computer printed labels because I have bad hand writing, so if there is no possibility of being delivered to the wrong address due to bad hand writing, what else could it be? Even if it was delivered to the wrong address, I think the majority of people would return it to the post office, give it to the mailman the next day, track the sender down using google, etc. I don't think the majority of people would even open a package if it's not in their own name. So if you think about this, it's unlikely it was delivered to some random person and then that person not return it. Plus if it was delivered to the wrong address, I think the tracking system they have enables them to narrow it down to the local carrier who had the package on their truck since they have the "Out for delivery" status. I've tracked down packages all the way to the carrier before and I was shocked but they actually even remembered exactly what I was referring to, probably because they work the same route every day and even know all the people. I have 2 different mail carriers that come to my house and I'm basically friends with them, so if something got delivered to me, they would remember if it was within a day or whatever, if I can describe what it looked like etc.

Damaged? The options are cost prohibitive. But I'm just talking about any type of cost effective padding inside or a zip lock bag and padding. There is no other cost effective or realistic way to prevent damage during shipping.

Alternative to pouches- These would be square in shape, so they would be stackable which is easier and more efficient for storing than pouches that can't be stacked without side support.

Sizes- That's why $3-5 is a range. USPS and other companies have size requirements so you make the smartest decisions you can given the estimated usage. But this practice would be a waste of time without a demand, even if it's easy to figure out.

So what boxes are you talking about that you use? Do you buy them or is it from some other item you buy frequently? I need to buy a few because I've run out of all the boxes from my everyday purchases. I use bubble wrap most of the time, but I have some more expensive knives that buyers might not be happy about if receiving the knife in bubble wrap.
 
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I've never had an issue with a properly padded knife (no movement) in a properly sized box (no bulging) with all edges/corners taped, shipped priority w/signature confirmation arriving safe and sound.

~Chip
 
I've never had an issue with a properly padded knife (no movement) in a properly sized box (no bulging) with all edges/corners taped, shipped priority w/signature confirmation arriving safe and sound.

~Chip

Everyone has their own opinion, but I'm a firm believer in the USPS service...I trust the service 200%.
 
Me too. Bubble wrap is pretty hard to beat. But it's not a solution in search of a problem.

I'm curious to know if there is a solution to feel safer about shipping small expensive items so they can't get stolen or lost during transit as easily. I don't think it happens very often but more often than we know about. I know a few people who have lost knives during transit that don't post about it online, I'm one of them. But I didn't make a claim with USPS because after a few call attempts, I didn't want to deal with all the follow up necessary, and plus it was a custom knife and I think they want to see a receipt or some proof of the value, which was more hassle than I wanted to deal with. I would have been more than happy to recover even the default free insurance coverage that Priority comes with, but it's the same hassle.
I think the solution if a knife will fit is to use the flat rate USPS Priority Mail boxes that include tracking. They are so common that I doubt many postal workers give them much thought. I ship guns this way thru my FFL dealer and have not had a problem. The only time I track out-going items is when I think there might be a problem. In-coming are different....

KSF ship smaller knives in a padded pouch 1st class mail and it seems to work quite well. They aren't expensive.
 
I've never had problems with usps. I use them without a care. It might get routed through the wrong side of the state for a few days but they always seem to get there. :eek:;)

If you want your stuff beat to hell ship ups. :confused:

Any box and bubble wrap is sufficient for most any knife(It's steel after all) but you should also fill the volume of the box with something as to help with crushing and the object bouncing around in the box. Newspaper, cut scraps of bubble wrap, old socks...etc. Doesn't matter. If you're still concerned after that then you should spend money toward the service. FedEx air overnight is by far your best. It decreases handling because of the speed and be sure to make sure you get signature service so you have a name of the person who signed for it and to make sure it doesn't get left on the porch. I've had usps leave knives in the mailbox without a signature even though it was required. My only gripe with them.

Do not use FedEx ground as they're a different division and just as bad as ups. :confused:
 
If the package isn't insured when it ships, the packaging won't make up for loss or damage. The insurance is the the responsibility seller, and should be included.

USPS doesn't use first class shipping any longer, Its now USPS ground. It comes with tracking, but no insurance. Yo can add it, but then why not just ship priority. A dedicated knife box seems completely unnecessary .
 
Well, considering that I know about these boxes now and I'm still not buying them, my answer to the title of this thread would be no.
 
No.

Good sellers have no problem figuring out how to properly ship a knife (well packaged and insured).

And there is no way I would give to a kickstarter for such a thing either.
 
Go to a flea market and get old VHS tape boxes.. Work real nice!! John
 
Just use the thousand blades you have to cut cardboard to size. Like the orange boxes knife center uses. There are already existing prefabbed shipping boxes of similar dimensions.
 
You know, if there is a possibility of losing your goods, I would have purchased such a package. Especially if it was an expensive thing or a gift. From the package in this case very much depends. And from the delivery service itself, too. I've heard a lot about delivery problems. Now I'm just considering options with them. While stopped at clearitusa. I study their suggestions and opportunities.
 
USPS Priority Mail small flat rate or the old VHS size box properly secured and packed, with signature confirmation attracts the least attention. By the way, Tom Mayo wraps his folders for shipment in a blue paper towel :D
 
Nope. I would not buy it.
USPS flat rate box and a little bubble wrap or foam peanuts works just fine.
 
Sounds like a solution in search of a problem.

I simply wrap the knife in bubble wrap and tape that to the inside of a USPS Priority flat rate box then, after addressing the box, I tape the box.
+1000

I also put a packing slip in the bubble wrap just in case. When you tape the item to the inside of the box it's impossible to get it out of the box without opening the entire box.
 
If selling knives as a business, it might be nice to add a little extra to the packing. If it's just selling a personal knife every few months, I wouldn't worry too much. I've sold a couple items on ebay, and tend to spend extra on packaging and padding, as that's how I would want to receive it if I was buying. For shipping knives for warranty work or returns, I tend to use bubble wrap in any box I have laying around.

If you are selling these knives as a business, I might consider something a little more presentable. Since you mentioned a folder, I'm assuming that the dimensions are relatively small. One option, is to purchase "drawstring jewelry pouches" in bulk (burlap, velvet, etc.), adding a little foam padding, and using a small "mailer" box. I think you can find both in 50 packs online (easy to find on A..z.n). The pouches would probably cost you around $0.50 each, and the mailer boxes around $0.50 - $1.50 each (in 50 packs). If these types of sales were common, you might even be able to order some with your company logo on them.
 
If a company sold a small cardboard box made specifically for shipping knives that:

...
3. Reduced chance of getting lost or damaged during transit with USPS due to some clever packing trick that doesn't invite theft by postal workers.
...

When was the last time you had a package stolen by a USPS employee? I'd say never.

Porch pirates are a totally different issue.

While the USPS isn't perfect, they come pretty close with mail. Not many organizations can process billions of packages with such a low loss rate. And yes, a few postal employees have been found guilty of theft and other activities but, no organization with such a large group of people is perfect (law enforcement, school teaches, etc.).
 
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