Knife vs Hawk

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Due to the recent threads discussing the chopping ability of tomahawks and the BK-9, I thought it would be interesting to determine which of the two is “better”; big knife or hawk. Of course, which is better depends upon an individual’s environment, activities, and personal preferences. However, a detailed comparison of the advantages of each of these two tools may be helpful in determining which tool fits your needs. Here are some observations I have gathered.

In this comparison, the category of big knives is represented by the Becker BK-9 Combat Bowie, The King.

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The tomahawk used was the very popular Cold Steel Trail Hawk.

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It has already been established in Khan’s thread that the Trail Hawk will outchop the BK-9. My own testing confirms this. But it must be noted that a knife may be more effective in the hands of one unskilled in the use of a hawk. It is easier to miss with the narrow cutting edge of the hawk than the long cutting edge of the knife. Regarding pure chopping ability, though, advantage must go to the hawk.

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For splitting small diameter wood, both tools perform well, and I see no clear winner. When using the hawk as a splitting wedge (handle removed), on larger diameter wood, say over 4 inches or so, I have had difficulty. It is hard to drive the hawk head straight into the wood. It often turns under an imperfect baton strike and must be re-straightened. The BK-9 fully spans the width of the log and can be held in place by the handle while batoning. From my experience, I must give the advantage to the knife.

At this time I will say that I rarely find it necessary to baton logs. Cutting wood to firewood length and splitting each piece requires a lot of work, and I rarely carry a saw. I find that it is more effective to use the hawk to chip kindling from the side of a log. This gives access to the dry wood inside and the chips can be split with a small knife to make pencil size and toothpick size kindling.

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The Trail Hawk head can be used to make shavings for fire starting.

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But the BK-9 handle provides a much better grip than the hawk head. Also, the knife is sharper. For fine work such as shavings, feathersticks, or notches, advantage goes to the knife.

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The BK-9 performs well when cutting small branches, vines, and herbaceous stems. The hawk is a poor choice for these cuts.

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The Trail Hawk also has a hammer poll, which has many uses.

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The BK-9 performs well as a draw knife.

The hawk can be used as a carry handle for firewood.

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The hawk can be thrown, not really practical but can be fun.



So, which do you choose? Hawk or Knife?

And feel free to add any hawk or knife skills I may have missed.
 
Regarding my choice, I have found myself choosing the Trail Hawk lately. It chops a bit better. It gives me a hammer. In my system, it is easier to carry. Just a loop of paracord, and it rides nicely on the strap of my Goody Bag.

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Also, I like my knives well maintained and sharp. When my pretty BK-9 blade gets dinged up, I become distraught so I hesitate to use it in certain situations.

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I have no such reluctance with the Trail Hawk.

In many of the categories where a knife excels over the hawk (shaving, whittling, carving, notching, skinning), a small knife would be better than a big knife.

Therefore, I am confident I can do whatever I need in the woods with a hawk and a small knife.

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Nice review!
I am interested in the CS Hawk, but I already have a Fiskars 14in hatchet, and it works perfectly and chops way better than any knife would. It is also lightweight and very durable. I also agree with you statement about having a small knife and a hatchet/ hawk will work just as well if not better then just a big knife. That might all change when the Machax is finally freed from the Ka-Bar factory.....


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I've got a couple of the CS hawks (pipe and spike). They're good buys, for sure. I'm a believer in the 2 is 1 and 1 is none mentality though, and I'm a huge khuk fan too. So I think there's good reason to carry any of them. It kinda depends on what you need.
 
Hey - cool thread! :D Though the TH is a chopping machine, I still like my BK9 better. Fear it!

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I love big choppawhoppa knives. But in in all honest a BK14 (or similar) knife, and a smallish/light hatchet/hawk is a great woods combo in The Real World. That being said, I think a BK9/folding saw combo would be just as efficient as the small knife/axe combo. IMO a saw is way easier/faster then chopping (crosscut chopping) with a hatchet/hawk OR a big knife.

I will always carry a saw and a smaller knife to the woods, so in my mind...the big knife or hatchet is interchangeable depending on my mood and what I wanna use that day.
 
My favorite tomahawk is my FT Buck which I put on a 21" haft. Light, agile, quick, and ferocious cutting power. It has the wide "trumpet" shaped bit I've come to prefer and I've tested it on various chores:

- it slices and skins fairly well
- it does pretty good as a hide scraper
- it's excellent used as an ulu
- I've shaved with it. A bit awkward but it works.

Anymore I'm going out in the woods with that tomahawk, my BK-5, and BK-11 more often than anything else. That will probably change when I get my paws on a couple BK-15 Mini-Magnums.
 
hadda google ''FT Buck tomahawk''. Look nice, I like the hammer poll Trapper model. Hmmmmmmmmmm...I may lose more money soon!
 
hadda google ''FT Buck tomahawk''. Look nice, I like the hammer poll Trapper model. Hmmmmmmmmmm...I may lose more money soon!

Here's mine:

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The handle is a Cold Steel 22" with the ends sawed off slightly, leaving me with a 21" length. It's scorched and treated with two coats of satin polyurethane, seven brass "cone" tacks on each side.
 
I dig the hawk. I have a SOG tactical myself. However, both types are on the heavy side in my opinion. I'd rather go with my USMC .
 
I have both. The 9 gets used. The hawk, not so much.

Having a 9" long knife is better for me in the woods, than a 3" hawk.

For me anyways.

Moose
 
This is a great thread as i am looking into getting a BK9 for these special chopping occasions!! But the axe and BK14 are holding some weight also.......what to do what to buy??!!
 
the chainsaw evidence there is mightier than the sword?

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I get to play with my newest toy this weekend. Will try and get plenty of pics alongside my 9....

Since this pic taken yesterday morning, I added hockey stick grip tape, which is awesome for hawks, and a lanyard. I can't imagine using this without the tape.

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I have the CS trailhawk and riflemans hawk. I think they are fun to use but not real axes.
The Bk9 is a better splitter.IMO.
 
BTW....Dont hate the spike on my SOG. Other than the obvious (zombies...duh!), it is very useful using it pickaxe style for digging small firepits and such....or sticking it in a tree without dulling the main cutting edge.
 
I love big choppawhoppa knives. But in in all honest a BK14 (or similar) knife, and a smallish/light hatchet/hawk is a great woods combo in The Real World. That being said, I think a BK9/folding saw combo would be just as efficient as the small knife/axe combo. IMO a saw is way easier/faster then chopping (crosscut chopping) with a hatchet/hawk OR a big knife.

I will always carry a saw and a smaller knife to the woods, so in my mind...the big knife or hatchet is interchangeable depending on my mood and what I wanna use that day.

Saws are perhaps more energy efficient. But they are a single use item, and for that reason, I've always preferred a knife or axe.
 
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