Knife with a good design to use as a impact weapon

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BitingSarcasm said:
Using a knife as an impact weapon is about as bright as shooting to wound. Carry a kubaton or a tactical pen--both of those are dedicated impact weapons, and usually non-lethal and cause limited injury. Pull a knife, and you are pulling a lethal weapon with all the fun legal implications that entails. If you break out the lethal force first, the other guy is now in the self-defense situation and you would have been legally better served by running away. If things are so bad you have to draw a knife, you would be better off drawing a gun. Half measures are kind of silly.
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I find your post confusing and contradictory.

You dismiss using a folding knife as an impact weapon, but you recommend a kubaton or tactical pen, then you recommend a gun and say that "half measures are kind of silly". If you believe a gun is the best choice, wouldn't that make a kubaton or tactical pen "half measures"?

Many folding knives are just as capable of inflicting the same injuries as a kubaton or tactical pen, with the added advantage that many people regularly carry a folding knife as a cutting tool, and they often carry them clipped to their pockets where they are quickly accessible.

And I can guarantee you that if a person uses a kubaton or tactical pen as a weapon, that the procesutor reviewing the case WILL regard such items as "deadly weapons", even if the wounds inflicted were not lethal.

You say "If you break out the lethal force first, the other guy is now in the self-defense situation...", but you recommend drawing a gun. Wouldn't drawing a gun put "the other guy in the self-defense situation"? After all, drawing a gun on someone definitely represents "lethal force".

And there's another apparent contradiction- you say it's bad to pull a knife because of legal repercussions, and then you recommend drawing a gun. Again, I can guarantee you that pulling a gun can have severe legal repercussions, even worse than pulling a knife.

Some people don't seem to understand that not everyone has a legal right to buy, own, or carry a gun. And neither carrying, drawing, or even firing a gun offers any guarantee of stopping an attacker.
 
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hank_rearden said:
you know what this knife is and how much it costs.

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What is it? How much does it cost?

not2sharp said:
I would go with this:

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n2s
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I love these.


To be fair, a lot the new designs have been implementing steel tip ends originating from first response demands, a lot of them as the clip screw, but I dont think first response is what was in mind in these cases. For anyone, except maybe first responders. Heh
 
If my knife has a glass breaker or skull crusher, I'm not afraid to use it if my life or someone elses depended on it.
 
Blues Bender said:
If you want an impact-weapon, carry a flashlight. We hear stories about people getting stabbed with knives, not blinded with flashlights. I'm not aware of any states with flashlight-laws so go and strap a 3-cell Maglite to your belt.

Labeling your knife as a weapon will only help authorities with enforcing strange knife laws.
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^^ This.

Be smart and stay out of bad situations.
If you see something that doesn't look right walk away.
If it's too late to walk away, run.
If your in a situation where your life is threatened and you have to defend yourself use your firearm.

Keep the knife for cutting stuff, it's a tool that doesn't make a very good "self-defence weapon"....nevermind an "impact weapon"....
 
killgar said:
I find your post confusing and contradictory.

You dismiss using a folding knife as an impact weapon, but you recommend a kubaton or tactical pen, then you recommend a gun and say that "half measures are kind of silly". If you believe a gun is the best choice, wouldn't that make a kubaton or tactical pen "half measures"?

Many folding knives are just as capable of inflicting the same injuries as a kubaton or tactical pen, with the added advantage that many people regularly carry a folding knife as a cutting tool, and they often carry them clipped to their pockets where they are quickly accessible.

And I can guarantee you that if a person uses a kubaton or tactical pen as a weapon, that the procesutor reviewing the case WILL regard such items as "deadly weapons", even if the wounds inflicted were not lethal.

You say "If you break out the lethal force first, the other guy is now in the self-defense situation...", but you recommend drawing a gun. Wouldn't drawing a gun put "the other guy in the self-defense situation"? After all, drawing a gun on someone definitely represents "lethal force".

And there's another apparent contradiction- you say it's bad to pull a knife because of legal repercussions, and then you recommend drawing a gun. Again, I can guarantee you that pulling a gun can have severe legal repercussions, even worse than pulling a knife.

Some people don't seem to understand that not everyone has a legal right to buy, own, or carry a gun. And neither carrying, drawing, or even firing a gun offers any guarantee of stopping an attacker.
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Sorta agreed (a gun would stop me in my tracks though, maybe it's just me) a knife has 1/1000th the chance that a gun has, in terms of a guarantee....
 
It's funny.......OP asks for OPINIONS. Opinions are given. OP doesn't agree with said opinions. OP gets cantankerous.
Sigh
 
and OP is self confused and contradictory. said he wanted a knife as an impact weapon but does not want people to discuss knives as weapons.:confused:
 
a pocket knife can in fact make a great impact weapon that would give you a less than lethal first option. no need to carry a pocket stick/kobuton when your pocket knife would do just fine.
 
while I agree with the most of you on the knives as impact weapons and as self defense, he really asked for suggestions on knives that could be used for the purpose not your opinions on whether or not it is a good idea
 
killgar said:
I find your post confusing and contradictory.

You dismiss using a folding knife as an impact weapon, but you recommend a kubaton or tactical pen, then you recommend a gun and say that "half measures are kind of silly". If you believe a gun is the best choice, wouldn't that make a kubaton or tactical pen "half measures"?

Many folding knives are just as capable of inflicting the same injuries as a kubaton or tactical pen, with the added advantage that many people regularly carry a folding knife as a cutting tool, and they often carry them clipped to their pockets where they are quickly accessible.

And I can guarantee you that if a person uses a kubaton or tactical pen as a weapon, that the procesutor reviewing the case WILL regard such items as "deadly weapons", even if the wounds inflicted were not lethal.

You say "If you break out the lethal force first, the other guy is now in the self-defense situation...", but you recommend drawing a gun. Wouldn't drawing a gun put "the other guy in the self-defense situation"? After all, drawing a gun on someone definitely represents "lethal force".

And there's another apparent contradiction- you say it's bad to pull a knife because of legal repercussions, and then you recommend drawing a gun. Again, I can guarantee you that pulling a gun can have severe legal repercussions, even worse than pulling a knife.

Some people don't seem to understand that not everyone has a legal right to buy, own, or carry a gun. And neither carrying, drawing, or even firing a gun offers any guarantee of stopping an attacker.
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You only need to look at his first and last sentence:

"Using a knife as an impact weapon is about as bright as shooting to wound..... Half measures are kind of silly."

This is a guy who thinks a violent encounter is a simple cut-and-dried matter. Another of the same ilk pointed out it was apparently illegal to fire warning shots... Shooting people is preferable! That must be why US cops are solving problems so brilliantly these days... I think you won't change his mind in the least, but good on you for trying...

Gaston
 
Shooting people is preferable! That must be why US cops are solving problems so brilliantly these days... I think you won't change his mind in the least, but good on you for trying...

Gaston

Nice to paint law enforcement with such a broad brush, thanks from current and former LE s that participate on this forum that do solve and have solved our nations societal problems without the use of deadly force. Oh, less we forget so soon the horrid acts perpetrated on our men and women in law enforcement gunned down while protecting folks like you who hurl outrageous accusations against them. I also think that statement is in the wrong section of this forum.
 
JR88FAN said:
^^ This.

Be smart and stay out of bad situations.
If you see something that doesn't look right walk away.
If it's too late to walk away, run.
If your in a situation where your life is threatened and you have to defend yourself use your firearm.

Keep the knife for cutting stuff, it's a tool that doesn't make a very good "self-defence weapon"....nevermind an "impact weapon"....
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Couldn't agree more...

Gaston444 said:
You only need to look at his first and last sentence:

"Using a knife as an impact weapon is about as bright as shooting to wound..... Half measures are kind of silly."

This is a guy who thinks a violent encounter is a simple cut-and-dried matter. Another of the same ilk pointed out it was apparently illegal to fire warning shots... Shooting people is preferable! That must be why US cops are solving problems so brilliantly these days... I think you won't change his mind in the least, but good on you for trying...

Gaston
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Gaston,

Can you please click the logout button and never look back? You'd be doing all of us a huge favor.

Sincerely,
BladeForums
 
Blues Bender said:
Couldn't agree more...



Gaston,

Can you please click the logout button and never look back? You'd be doing all of us a huge favor.

Sincerely,
BladeForums
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Aww, but then who would teach us so much about the proper way to carry your knife?
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Benchmade Bedlam 860 has a nice glass breaker on it and a great grip and great blade on the other end if things go that way.

Of course, if your attacker is tough and stringy, there's always this option:

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not2sharp said:
I would go with this:

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n2s
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The nastiest close quarters knife made. It was made to hurt, maim , and kill. My late Great Grandfather said the Germans in WW 1 feared and hated them.
Any locking folder with a glass breaker got a built in impact tool use.
 
Blues Bender said:
If you want an impact-weapon, carry a flashlight. We hear stories about people getting stabbed with knives, not blinded with flashlights. I'm not aware of any states with flashlight-laws so go and strap a 3-cell Maglite to your belt.

Labeling your knife as a weapon will only help authorities with enforcing strange knife laws.
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Well said.
 
The topic is being left by the side of the road in favor of sarcastic replies and veiled insults. Keep on topic.
 
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