Knife with Stacked Leather Handle

Keep posting the little woman starting to get nervous and I think she just hide the checkbook. So many to pick from.
 
The BRKT are nice, so are the ROS, decisions decisions. Maybe the Kabar then the ROS.
 
I'd get a SOG Bowie simply due to it being full tang. The Kabar has a much smaller/thinner tang and is held together with a pin. Having said that I own 2 Kabars myself and unless you are going to baton hard a lot or go crazy prying you'd be totally happy with a Kabar, whew that was clear as mud.
 
Spydiefan04 said:
I'd get a SOG Bowie simply due to it being full tang. The Kabar has a much smaller/thinner tang and is held together with a pin. Having said that I own 2 Kabars myself and unless you are going to baton hard a lot or go crazy prying you'd be totally happy with a Kabar, whew that was clear as mud.
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Don't they have practically identical tangs? I thought both had a slim tang that passes through the centre of the stack of leather washers and is secured to the pommel, as opposed to a full-tang, like on ESEE knives.
 
Spydiefan04 said:
I'd get a SOG Bowie simply due to it being full tang. The Kabar has a much smaller/thinner tang and is held together with a pin. Having said that I own 2 Kabars myself and unless you are going to baton hard a lot or go crazy prying you'd be totally happy with a Kabar, whew that was clear as mud.
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I don't know why the pin is so often mentioned. I have one well used ka-bar that has been stripped (it's a forever project). I tried to hammer the buttcap but the thing is one stubborn sob! I tried for while but I gave up because I didn't want to risk damaging the tang.
 
Randall Model 1-7" (double guard) or Model 5-7" (single guard). More expensive, but over time, they will increase in value. :thumbup:

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Dorito Monk said:
Don't they have practically identical tangs? I thought both had a slim tang that passes through the centre of the stack of leather washers and is secured to the pommel, as opposed to a full-tang, like on ESEE knives.
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I'm pretty sure that the SOG Bowies are full or nearly full tang and secured with a screw on the bottom, where the KABAR has the stick tang and secures with a pin. SOG does make a model called the Gov-Tac that I believe has a similar tang to a KABAR. I just posted a question about this over on the SOG forum, you could be right and you've got me curious.
 
I say Randall Model 3 Hunter, 7". I have it in 6" and it is just an amazing piece. This knife has a very special feeling in the hand. OFC, its difficult to get them, i inherited mine.

Very special knives though.

-- Adam
 
Spydiefan04 said:
I'm pretty sure that the SOG Bowies are full or nearly full tang and secured with a screw on the bottom, where the KABAR has the stick tang and secures with a pin. SOG does make a model called the Gov-Tac that I believe has a similar tang to a KABAR. I just posted a question about this over on the SOG forum, you could be right and you've got me curious.
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I was a bit confused, because I'm pretty sure 'full-tang' is a particular style where the tang is actually showing beyond the handle scales, like on Esee knives. A knife with stacked leather handles doesn't have the tang showing, therefore can't be a full-tang design (if I'm correct in my definition of a full-tang knife...)

Hopefully someone who's more knowledgeable in knife-semantics can clarify, because now I'm really not sure.
 
Well, Im not expert either on what is the very true definition but..
Full tang is considered knife with exposed, wide handle where handleslabs have been attached to both sides. This way most of the pressure is applied to the steel itself and not to the attached construction(s), not to mention that the tang is wider and hence stronger.
SOG knives and Ka-Bars are both (most of them anyway) hidden tang knives.
 
A.L. said:
Well, Im not expert either on what is the very true definition but..
Full tang is considered knife with exposed, wide handle where handleslabs have been attached to both sides. This way most of the pressure is applied to the steel itself and not to the attached construction(s), not to mention that the tang is wider and hence stronger.
SOG knives and Ka-Bars are both (most of them anyway) hidden tang knives.
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FWIW, this is the way I've always defined things, and I think it is correct. If the tang is enclosed by the handle, it's a stick tang. Ka-Bars and TAH's Randall are stick tangs. Becker BK-2's,7's, 9's for example are full tangs.
 
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=735461&highlight=sog+bowie

Here's a thread with a pic of a SOG Bowie tang, not quick full width but pretty close, much more substantial than the tang on a Gov-Tac or Kabar. As far as tang definition I always understood it as a full tang knife having a tang that was at wide and thick as the blade and extending all the way to the end of the handle. Now as far as which would be a superior field blade I'd probably take a Becker or something similar.
 
Spydiefan04 said:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=735461&highlight=sog+bowie

Here's a thread with a pic of a SOG Bowie tang, not quick full width but pretty close, much more substantial than the tang on a Gov-Tac or Kabar. As far as tang definition I always understood it as a full tang knife having a tang that was at wide and thick as the blade and extending all the way to the end of the handle. Now as far as which would be a superior field blade I'd probably take a Becker or something similar.
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I'd bet the tang on a kabar is about 1/2" wide too. I'm pretty sure that the kabar has a wider blade than the SOG, so the tang looks narrower in relation to the blade.

I love Kabar stuff. You won't go wrong with any of them.

The Iisakki Scout knives are on my short list. Great steel and great price, the blade is 1/8" thick, so it may not be stout enough for some people, but if you're not going to baton with it, it will be a good choice. The sheath leaves a little to be desired, but at the price they sell at, getting another sheath would be no issue. Heck, you could get several of them for the price of a Fallkniven.

Full tang originally referred to the length of the tang, NOT the width of the tang. Any knife with a tang that was the same length as the handle was called full tang. It was only when full width tangs with slab handles became popular that the definition of full tang changed.
 
I also reccomend the USMC KaBar. If you don't like the sheath, do an ebay search for "Kabar sheath", there is a guy who makes custom leather sheaths for them.
 
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