well did some watercolor painting at 6 years old, silver/hippie type jewerly in my early to mid teens. then latin percusstion, drums,conga's etc, twentys, playing in bar bands on the collage curcuit, while nude modeling for the collage art dept, talk about a great way to meet chick's! also worked with this gal as a couple, for local artist that wanted a nude couple, no porno here, this was professinal. then i moved to the big city and went into sales/marketing. started knive making four years ago this feb, and the fun is still going strong.