Knifemakers Who Heat Treat

Bobby Branton said:
Is that my watch in the video ???
I have a 24" Paragon and I am looking at a Wilson hardness tester next month.
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That is your watch..
Mother of Pearl Dial and 6.5 carats of ice VS 1.
You have to be careful with this Bobby, your wrist will get frostbite if you wear it too long and I dont want to be responsible for permanent damage if you fall asleep and it freezes your hand off...
Its like a cold front blowing in the shop with all that ice .
I need to talk with you some more about what we were discussing earlier this week
Cuidate
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wehn i am at the kiln i use TIG gauntlets that are thin leather but protect a bit. the real fun is making the foil packs themselves

foldin razorblades (HT foil) is not my idea of fun but it has to be done (been a while since i had been bit and i hop im not due )
 
Mike: I have been heat treating my own blades now for over 20 years. I have a larger CRESS 942 and I do a couple of things that could probably help you. Multiple blades of the same thickness in a larger pack-You could easily get 12 of those tantos in one package if your furnace was large enough. You could probably do 6 in your little Paragon.

Also, look into laser welded packets from SENTRY FURNACES in MA. Da BOMB!

Also, lose the steel plates and get larger, thicker aluminum plates.
 
RJ Martin said:
Mike: I have been heat treating my own blades now for over 20 years. I have a larger CRESS 942 and I do a couple of things that could probably help you. Multiple blades of the same thickness in a larger pack-You could easily get 12 of those tantos in one package if your furnace was large enough. You could probably do 6 in your little Paragon.

Also, look into laser welded packets from SENTRY FURNACES in MA. Da BOMB!

Also, lose the steel plates and get larger, thicker aluminum plates.
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As always, when R.J. talks, folks should listen. Lots of good advice in one post there. :)
 
RJ Martin said:
Mike: I have been heat treating my own blades now for over 20 years. I have a larger CRESS 942 and I do a couple of things that could probably help you. Multiple blades of the same thickness in a larger pack-You could easily get 12 of those tantos in one package if your furnace was large enough. You could probably do 6 in your little Paragon.

Also, look into laser welded packets from SENTRY FURNACES in MA. Da BOMB!

Also, lose the steel plates and get larger, thicker aluminum plates.
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Your the Man.. Thats why I sought you out when I began making knives.
I wanted to learn from the best and in my opinion you are definitely the best when it comes to performance heat treating custom knives.
I used to take notes when we talked RJ.. I still vividly remember our conversations and I think about you alot while working in the shop..
You were a Huge Influence on me.. You are the reason we heat treat in house.. You were very generous with your knowledge and for that I am forever grateful.
I wish you could visit us sometime.. I have a cottage on the beach, I will take you fishing and feed you so much shrimp you might get iodine poisoning..
Stay Safe..
 
I had no choice but to learn to do my own HT. Back in the 1980's there wasn't any internet and being way out here in the boonies it left me with few options. First I learned how to HT using only a torch, but with the help of magazines like Blade, Knives unlimited, and National Knife Collectors, I ordered up a Paragon HT oven and never looked back.
 
I've done my own heat treating since day one. When I do the tempering I always throw in a batch of cookies, a nice roast, or even some jerky. I'll have to try a pie.......... :D
 
I do.
I forge and heat in my gas forge, also something for coffee :p:D

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I do my own when it makes sense, and send some out because sometimes that makes more sense. My 3v goes to Peter's, and truth be told I might make more money if I sent all of my stuff to him. I enjoy the satisfaction of doing it myself, and I like to holler and curse at the occasional warped blade as much as the next guy, but I have no problem turning it over to Brad so I can grind and finish more blades, and not have that oven heating up my shop all the time.
 
I edge harden simple carbon steels with a torch, triple temper, and test each blade. I’ve been happy with the results. I think the one who heat treats the steel has done half the work. Since I want the finished knife to be mine, I do the heat treating.
 
You betcha, (except stainless and 3v) in house w2, 1084, something about bringing it from a chunk of metal to a finished blade, good stuff.
 
Snody said:
Your the Man.. Thats why I sought you out when I began making knives.
I wanted to learn from the best and in my opinion you are definitely the best when it comes to performance heat treating custom knives.
I used to take notes when we talked RJ.. I still vividly remember our conversations and I think about you alot while working in the shop..
You were a Huge Influence on me.. You are the reason we heat treat in house.. You were very generous with your knowledge and for that I am forever grateful.
I wish you could visit us sometime.. I have a cottage on the beach, I will take you fishing and feed you so much shrimp you might get iodine poisoning..
Stay Safe..
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Happy to help. So, I assume your next video will show Al plates and Sentry packets being used? <G>
 
RJ Martin said:
Happy to help. So, I assume your next video will show Al plates and Sentry packets being used? <G>
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Excellent.
I am serious about the cottage on the beach..
We have a place called the "Last Resort" in Rockport.
I would seriously give you the best cabin in the whole place if you ever wanted to visit South Texas

The next video is actually oil quenching.. I hope to have it up today...
We ran thirty damascus blades Thursday and quenched in Parks 50.
I got all of them completely ground yesterday and today they go in the ferric..
My arms are so sore I cant hardly type... Long Week..
One of my closest friends recently retired and now he works two days a week in the knife shop.
He makes all of my foil packets, cuts out leather sheaths, runs to post office, works the internet, etc, etc, etc.
He cut up an entire 100' roll Tuesday and he enjoys the work..
If I didnt have him I would certainly purchase the laser welded pouches that you described..
I want to ask you about secondary tempering and multiple blades in one pouch but I will put those questions in a pm.
Yes, I will run aluminum plates next week.
The video was actually shot while heat treating product for an OEM contract and they wanted an interrupted quench using chilled steel plates. (got to give them what they want)
I burnt up the controller on our big oven a couple weeks ago and decided to get something with a smaller chamber..
I remember you telling me years ago that you used Paragons in your shop
99% of everything we heat treat is 7" overall (or less)
Have a great weekend and congratulations on the Award you brought home from Blade this year.
I know your commitment level in regards to the pursuit of excellence in knifemaking and its makes me proud when you win..
Much Respect..
 
Great topic Snody

I was just talking to RJ last week about this very topic. He has some great advice. I use 2 aluminum blocks that are 2" x 4" x 16" and I set my knives in between the two. RJ stands on his plates while they are cooling - talk about keepin em strait. A cryo quench helps as well.

For commercial I agree with Justin - Peters does an excellent job.

Rob Thomas
ABS Apprentice
http://thomasdamascus.com/
 
It's like everything else these days, if you want it done right.......figure out how & get er' done! ^ 5 Mike, keep pimpin' playa...
 
jonnyquest said:
Great topic Snody

I was just talking to RJ last week about this very topic. He has some great advice. I use 2 aluminum blocks that are 2" x 4" x 16" and I set my knives in between the two. RJ stands on his plates while they are cooling - talk about keepin em strait. A cryo quench helps as well.

For commercial I agree with Justin - Peters does an excellent job.

Rob Thomas
ABS Apprentice
http://thomasdamascus.com/
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RJ is a Five Star Stunna!!
Thanks for keeping it real.
Have a great weekend..
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Raymond Richard said:
I've done my own heat treating since day one. When I do the tempering I always throw in a batch of cookies, a nice roast, or even some jerky. I'll have to try a pie.......... :D
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Now thats keeping it Real...
Have a great weekend.
Thanks for posting.
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i have all the parts for my quench plate setup but i have not got around to the milling and welding
i have 1/4 inch thick copper plate that i want to face the AL plates with (AL plates will be milled for coolant flow) lower plates will be mounted and the top plate will be on a 4 link quick press with a catch at the bottom to hold closed for me (no standing on the plates :) )
but im a bit of a nut so i sure dont think any one really "needs" such a set up. My Al plates in a HF 12 ton press work fine
 
butcher_block said:
i have all the parts for my quench plate setup but i have not got around to the milling and welding
i have 1/4 inch thick copper plate that i want to face the AL plates with (AL plates will be milled for coolant flow) lower plates will be mounted and the top plate will be on a 4 link quick press with a catch at the bottom to hold closed for me (no standing on the plates :) )
but im a bit of a nut so i sure dont think any one really "needs" such a set up. My Al plates in a HF 12 ton press work fine
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That sounds Awesome Bro..
I am really feeling those straight razors you make..
I have visited the dealer who sells your work several times..
Your on the right track...
Have a good 1..
Respect.
 
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