Knives are for cutting only!

Tyrkon Lawson

Tyrkon Lawson

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Hey Boss HOG. This is old news to you, I am sure, but thread after thread pops up here at BF where certain individuals emphatically state that knives are not made to chop, pry, baton, etc... Knives are for cutting and that's pretty much it. IMO that used to be the case and is still the case for certain knives. But with the development of better steels and technology knives are being used to handle a much wider spectrum of jobs above and beyond cutting. While cutting is the prime chore of a knife there are many more jobs a knife can handle and handle well.

Just compare a fillet knife and something like the FBM. Both cut. The fillet is much better at its designed purpose. To fillet. No questions there.

My FFBM will easily eat 2x4s then push cut through a phone book. Most of you have seen this and have done this yourselves with your own knives. It will also dig, baton, pry, you name it and still barely breaks a sweat.

So Jerry, while you have released numerous designs of knives would you agree that your knives are made for cutting and cutting only. And that those of us that use your knives to baton, pry, chop, etc... are doing nothing more than abusing our knives?

HOGS: feel free to chime in here. :thumbup:
 
If a sword is nothing more than a long knife, can you chop and hack with a sword as well or is that wrong too?

I think chopping and hacking and prying has gone on with knives for centuries. You just can't do it well with ultra-hard, brittle steels.
 
Sure you can! Then you just regrind them a lot. I edged my lawn with a ZDP-189 folding pocketknife. I feel more of a connection with the tip I had to regrind than with the generic tip that looked like the one everyone else had.
 
tyrkon
you forgot hammer! i like to hammer with my flats and spines.:thumbup:
okay i'm abusive.:D
 
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I find that people who have to limit a tools use lack imagination and the ability to get beyond being bottle fed. Thank God our founding fathers were not that dull witted. Busse just built a hard use tool that expands on some fundamental uses we enjoy in our edged tools.
Is a hammer just for pounding?
Is a motorcycle just for transportation?
Is booze just for drinking? Um......... well, I guess some items are just for one thing.;);)
 
if a person thinks knives are meant for slicing only and absolutely nothing else ever even under extreme circumstances, then don't call them knives. busse makes "edged tools".
 
mymindisamob said:
I find that people who have to limit a tools use lack imagination and the ability to get beyond being bottle fed. Thank God our founding fathers were not that dull witted. Busse just built a hard use tool that expands on some fundamental uses we enjoy in our edged tools.
Is a hammer just for pounding?
Is a motorcycle just for transportation?
Is booze just for drinking? Um......... well, I guess some items are just for one thing.;);)
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151 can be switched out for isopropanol and it's many uses :), though it may not wipe off quite as cleanly.
 
I'm not advocating the use of knives to chop cinder blocks or to be used as a screw driver. But some out there think it is abuse to baton a log to split it for fire wood. It's their right of course but I am pretty sure that some of the more robust combat and survival knives are up to the task. I wish I could find something on the Busse site that describes the various uses of different models.
 
mymindisamob said:
Is booze just for drinking?
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I figure Machetes have always been used for chopping....so our Battle Mistresses are just shorter, thicker versions of a Machete :D except you can use them for knife things as well because of the shorter legnth. And they're more packable. People who say knives are just for cutting aren't true knife nuts as they'd be into whatever knives are capable of...and where the technology's going in terms of new materials and designs.
 
Don't get me wrong. I plan on getting a couple of thinner knives that would fit more into the traditional category. No prying or chopping with those. In fact my EDC is currently a ZT 301. And while that is also a beast of a folder it will not see batoning or prying. It's a slicer. But some really do not want to recognize the fact that "edged tools" have evolved into designs that see the knife doing jobs other than just cutting.
 
Tyrkon Lawson said:
Fire! Fire! Heh heh heh! ​

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Was having trouble drinking that 151 (after making some headway of course) so judgement COMPLETELY intact, I decided to test out the fire retardent ceiling of my new (at the time...now long gone :p) apartment. Lets just say, it blackens pretty easily. My bldg manager was perplexed ;)
 
Reminds me of a drink I once had called a "Depth Charge"! I think it was a shot of 151, set on fire, dropped into another drink, then pounded. My friend lost his eyebrows on that trip. :p:thumbup:
 
I look at it like this, a knife is a tool and has been designed for certain tasks. Cutting to me is one of a number of tasks that I want a knife to do however. I would love to see the kit that people carry if they follow the 'only use a knife for cutting'. Surely this would mean carrying vast amounts of tools in every situation just because you don't want to use a tool for the 'wrong' task.

Personally I like tools that have the ability to handle many tasks through their design, materials and user know how. Hence the reason I carry a FFBM when out in the woods as opposed to an axe, pry bar, hammer, scalpel, shovel and machete that the purists out there must carry.
 
Tyrkon Lawson said:
Reminds me of a drink I once had called a "Depth Charge"! I think it was a shot of 151, set on fire, dropped into another drink, then pounded. My friend lost his eyebrows on that trip. :p:thumbup:
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Haha, I learned my lesson with flaming drinks.....I burnt all around my mouth when shooting some flaming everclear :p never again...the most embarrasing scab/healing process for the LONGEST time :D. I'll just stick to the basics...shots, beers, and the occasional 7&7 or Long Island :thumbup:
 
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