Knives are for cutting only!

Just my two cents' worth, but I used to carry a trowel, a small dental pick, and a few other odd tools for examinations of an archaeological nature. I found myself using only my Hell Razor and a small brush shortly after I got the HR.

Abuse? Oh, heck no. Not for the robust and always cooperative HR. Just a few additional tool tasks it is capable of performing. And it has pounded a little, pried, and even protected me from an aggressive scorpion critter. I love the versatility of this "edged tool!"
 
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Tyrkon Lawson said:
I'm not advocating the use of knives to chop cinder blocks or to be used as a screw driver. But some out there think it is abuse to baton a log to split it for fire wood. It's their right of course but I am pretty sure that some of the more robust combat and survival knives are up to the task. I wish I could find something on the Busse site that describes the various uses of different models.
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I in turn would suggest they have never really used their knives. :D


Like a filet knife, there are certain blades that just can't handle all around bushcraft work and are made for their intended purpose. I'm not going use the blade on my leatherman for example to baton firewood. Busse blades in my opinion cover a broad spectrum of use due to the material used to make them, design and edge retention capabilities. Thus making them a great buy....

I can user a pair of pliers for certain work.....or I can use a socket set making myself more efficient. A knife......is a tool like any other.
 
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Blackwind said:
Like a filet knife, there are certain blades that just can't handle all around bushcraft work and are made for their intended purpose. I'm not going use the blade on my leatherman for example to baton firewood.
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i broke the tip off my 154cm leatherman while cutting paper out on the deck of one of my apartments. I was trailing the tip across the wood slats to cut the shape out of the paper. there were no nails, so apparently turning the tip while I was tracing the outline was enough to snap off that portion.

I'm DEFINITELY not gonna use it for batoning. I might consider the serrated blade though, since it's made of whatever the older style blade was made of.
 
I feel that batoning is an essential survival skill. If you are out in the wet wilderness and need some dry materials to burn, battoning some wood may be your only source to find dry burnable material to get a fire going. I have no hesitation batoning any of my Busse knives. The GW makes great tiny tinder and kindling maker, and the only limit on it is the 3 inch blade (still very handy for making a large pile of tiny kindling, and shavings for the my one scout to work on his fire building merit badge).
 
I've got an axe. I guess it could be a short fat heavy knife with a really long handle. I chop with it, and also use the spine of it to bash things as well. Oh, and it cuts too. :)

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use them for what u want, how many really bust them! a Harley no matter how expensive is still a motorcycle and A FFBM is still a thick machette, i believe down deep Jerry will take care of it, so Beat um.
 
I've missed the post with people saying there just for cutting:confused:


I've seen and heard about chopping, batoning, splitting logs etc.. for years here. But have never seen anyone say there just for cutting. But I do miss alot.
 
Wait a minute- did somebody say you can't use 'em for a screwdriver? :confused:
 
I guess I am the odd-ball here. :D

I think that chopping and batoning are reasonable expectations for a knife unless the baton is a sledge hammer.

I am sure that a FBM would be ok as a prybar, shovel, and screwdriver. I wouldn't want to do those things with my FBM unless it was an emergency and I had no other tools or improvised solutions. I would much rather have the right tool for the right job than to take the chance of possibly damaging my fine cutting instrument.

How sharp will that razor sharp knife be after being used as a shover to dig dirt, sand, pebbles, and rocks? How much time would it take to bring the edge back to its original glory? Why would I want to dig with my stupid sharp FBM when I can pack a little plastic/composite shovel that weights nearly nothing. You can also easily improvise by sharpening a stick to dig with.

Prying is probably ok with a thick tip knife like the FBM depending on what is being pry ed apart. But again...why? A crowbar is much cheaper and does much better job without the razor sharp edge possibly cutting the hell out of me if I happen to slip when I am really leaning into the pry.

Screwdriver??? Hell No! Not with my knife at least. The possibility of ruining the tip or edge is just too high for that sort of task. There are folks that can use their knives as screwdrivers and can probably get away with it. I for one will not take that chance.

I view my knives as fine cutting instruments because a knife it is designed to cut (small knife) and chop (big knife). They should excel in that capacity. Whether or not they can be used as makeshift crowbars, shovels, screwdrivers, etc.... really is of little importance to me. The ability to do those things are obviously nice to have if I can get them without sacrificing cutting/chopping performance.

I am not saying that others are wrong. These are just my personal opinions. If others are comfortable with using their knives as prybars, shovels, and screwdrivers then who am I to disagree. Your knife...do what you want with it.
 
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Ban, why didn't you tell me that, I just dug a hole in my back yard with that Battle Mistress you convexed for me.
 
Hogwash said:
Ban, why didn't you tell me that, I just dug a hole in my back yard with that Battle Mistress you convexed for me.
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I am happy to hear that it did great job helping you dig that hole of yours. I am sure that you have learned to sharpen her back up by now. If not then now is a great time for some knife and owner bonding :p
 
Hogwash said:
Ban, why didn't you tell me that, I just dug a hole in my back yard with that Battle Mistress you convexed for me.
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Man, you crack me up:D

Ban said:
I am happy to hear that it did great job helping you dig that hole of yours. I am sure that you have learned to sharpen her back up by now. If not then now is a great time for some knife and owner bonding :p
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You to:D


Ban, you know he'll be over when he dulls the thing:p
 
Knife abuse! Knife abuse! :eek:
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Long live the Edged Tool!! :D

Seriously, I have seen with my own eyes, on the paperwork that comes with some knives, they explicitly state that you should not chop, pry, or use the knife as a screwdriver. It is considered knife abuse and voids all warranty. See, this attitude came from some knife manufacturers. Ew.

weirdos.
 
LupaWolf said:
Knife abuse! Knife abuse! :eek:
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Long live the Edged Tool!! :D

Seriously, I have seen with my own eyes, on the paperwork that comes with some knives, they explicitly state that you should not chop, pry, or use the knife as a screwdriver. It is considered knife abuse and voids all warranty. See, this attitude came from some knife manufacturers. Ew.

weirdos.
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That paperwork most likely came from folder manufactures. In that case, I don't think that it is all that unreasonable. Folders are inherently a whole lot weaker than fixed blades because of the moving parts.
 
Ban said:
That paperwork most likely came from folder manufactures. In that case, I don't think that it is all that unreasonable. Folders are inherently a whole lot weaker than fixed blades because of the moving parts.
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http://www.highcaliberknives.com/site/1634028/page/790915

"COLUMBIA RIVER KNIFE AND TOOL COMPANY WARRANTY
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This warranty does not cover breakage or failure due to misuse of the knife. Knives as good as ours rarely break or fail because of a defect. Usually they break or fail from what we call “tool abuse“ using them for unsuitable tasks like prying or pounding. Therefore, blade tip breakage is not covered by our warranty. Use of a knife for any purpose other than cutting voids the warranty. So please match the tool to the task, and use your knife only for cutting. The knife will last longer, and you'll be safer too. This warranty does not cover failure of mechanisms due to your failure to properly maintain them."

the italics are my doing.

most companies don't get too specific with their "voids the warranty" list, but if they did most would have a long list of things that are fairly minor for a "hard use" knife like we have come to be familiar with here. the busse family of knife companies spoils its customers.
 
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