Knives as gifts.

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I was just sitting here thinking about the post by fellow menber 4Mica, on gift pocket knives for family this coming Christmas season.

We the afflicted, that is we who have the incurable infection of knifitus fanaticosus, love knives of many types, shapes, sizes. We can't help it, we're incurable knife knuts. It has nothing to do with needing a cutting tool to open our mail, plastic blister packs, UPS boxes, even dressing that deer. We accumulate knives like some women accumulate jewlery or shoes. And we love to share the love.

But when we go to give a knife as a gift, its a thing to be done very carefully. It seems to me, a knife is like a pipe, or a pair of boots. A really personal choice.

Given that, it seems like one can hardly go wrong with a nice pocket knife of modest size. The hunter in the family probably has his pet knife that he carries afield, and it has the meory of many past hunts attached to it. But a general use pocket knife is a little different. Nobody is going to pose being photographed with that freshly opened UPS box, or the new bills in the mail just opened. The mundane pocket knife is a tool for daily life. The little jobs that get no glory, no special photos of the deed. But they are there, day in, day out, rain or shine. Get up in the morning and put on the pants, and the pocket knife is there.

And that makes the daily pocket knife actually more special than that once a year hunting knife that was made by a custom maker, or high end market company. Its always there when you need it. And to do that, it has to be easy to carry. A comfortable daily companion.

I knew this young lady who was a store manager for Chesapeake Knife and tool, before they went under. We were talking on the subject of knives once, and she told me an interesting thing. Her customers were sharply divided into two groups. The first was the young studs, who overwhelmingly went for the locking blade tacticals. The other, the older men or office types in suits, who wanted a knife but didn't want to be bothered by it untill it was needed. That is, not even know its there till needed. They usually went for the small sterio typical two blade pen knife. The younger office guys would buy a sak classic or something like that, while the older guys bought Schrade, Camillus, or 300 series Buck's. She sold alot of Buck Companions and Boker pen knives.

I have an idea, not saying I'm right, that the best knife to give someone is the basic pocket knife that is small enough that they can carry it anywhere. Or given the political climate these days, almost anywhere. A small knife that will in the years to come, be even more appreatiated with the use it will give. Just by being the small one, it will be there every single day, opening mail, doing small but nessesary cutting jobs. It will became a companion. Then on weekends it will go along on picnics, family gatherings, camping trips, vacations. One day it may whittle a perfect hot dog stick for his son, or make a whistle from a piece of cane by a creek bottom, for his grandson. Then, one day, he will realize it is a very special knife because it's been with him every single day since he got it, and all kinds of memories have attached themselves to it. And not only to him, his kids will years from now, say about it, "Dad always had that little peanut (or butterbean, Eisenhaur, mini trapper...) on him. Remember on that fishing trip..."

An artifact has been created.

My friend Wayne was given a little Buck companion by his wife, and he carried it for many years. Used the heck out of it. When he thought it was lost, he went to a very great length to retrieve it, because it meant so much to him. He could have stopped at any sporting goods store and bought another, and his wife would never have known. But it was that special to him, no other would do.

I can't think of a better Christmas gift than a nice Case pocket knife of modest size. Given our great suburban/urban society, even a suit guy can find a small sharp knife a handy thing to have. I don't think it will matter if it's a small stockman, peanut, baby butter bean or even a penknife.

Who knows, it just may start an infection.:D
 
I agree with everything you said.

I have also exercised caution when giving a knife or flashlight (my other addiction) as a gift because it is easy to forget that everyone does not like these things as much as I do.

So one must be very cognizant of the recipient's age, persona, station in life and so forth when choosing a knife to give. As you say, a small stockman or peanut may have the greatest odds of hitting the mark with the most people.
 
Hi,

While I agree that giving a knife as a gift is a bit tricky, I've given some out over the years. Sometimes I picked right, sometimes I didn't. It's a dicey thing to try and pick out an item that someone will spend more time with than their spouse.:D

dalee
 
My father in law still has a Remington Bullet Knife I gave him for Christmas twenty years ago. He carries it everyday.
 
The sentimental value can mean more then the knife. My son (age 15) got me a SAK Huntsman plus for Christmas. While it is a bit thick, I take it with almost everywhere that I go. It is a little reminder of him.
 
I can tell you I have been fortunate and all the knives I have given folks have been well received. I have never offered a knife as a gift to a youth though. I have given my maintiance guys at work SAK's and my Forklift drivers Serrated Spyderco Natives for cutting banding. They were and still are greatful! I almost every year give a few hard to find or discontinued knives as a gift to my few closest friends at Christmas. And when ever possible I will give my Son knives for his ever growing collection. It always makes me feel great to see someones face get wrinkled up with elation when they realize you just gave them a Nice Knife for no good reason!!!!
 
Jackknife you are correct some people just are not hooked like some of us. For the holidays I have given my crew a new knife for the past eight plus years and just this year I had a guy ask me just how many knives I had. I thought to myself what’s that got to do with anything, smiled walked off and laughed because they get a new knife again this year. Still a great gift and if someone gives me a knife woooohoooo. Happy holidays to all.
 
I have actually been told "no more knives as gifts" by some people. I have given other gifts beside knives to these people, but, like you said, knives are not for all. My father is getting a single blade Winchester spey blade trapper, my mother an Ulu and a Vic classic for her keychain, my brother a Benchmade 40TR and AG Russell scout knife and my youngest sister a Queen small stockman in cocobolo. These are in addition to other gifts unrelated to knives in the least. I have two other sisters, one got a no name older Barlow for her car that she is scared to death of accidentally cutting herself with, and the other has several different knives from me. I was going to get my sisters Case equestrian knives, they love their horses, but I decided against it. Might pick one up for my youngest sister, she wants all of her older brothers knives (I set the Queen aside for her). My one sister, has a Schrade Uncle Henry stag stockman, a Kabar Dozier folder (the one with the oval hole), a Cold Steel folder that she broke, and another one I can't remember right now. She uses all of them, but told me "no more".

For many people, one is enough. I can't understand it, but I won't push the issue :D.
 
Speaking of knives as gifts, I don't know if it's maybe a regional thing (upper mid west) or just my family, but I've always heard that it is bad luck to give a knife as a gift. So what we do is the recipient has to buy it from the gift giver for a nominal amount (whatever change you've got in your pocket). Is this a common thing, or just my family? I haven't heard of anyone else doing it, so I'm curious.
 
Speaking of knives as gifts, I don't know if it's maybe a regional thing (upper mid west) or just my family, but I've always heard that it is bad luck to give a knife as a gift. So what we do is the recipient has to buy it from the gift giver for a nominal amount (whatever change you've got in your pocket). Is this a common thing, or just my family? I haven't heard of anyone else doing it, so I'm curious.
It is a common practice to give a penny in return when you get a knife - to buy the knife so to speak.

Peter
 
The same sister who is scared of death of the barlow I got her, wanted to give her boyfriend a junk sword, some kind of medieval/martial arts wall hanger. I gave her one of mine, to give to him. A semi custom kit knife. Looks like a Randall fighter, 440C hidden tang kit blade with a bone handle, nicely assembled by a local maker, with a really nice sheath. I told her to tell her boyfriend to give her a penny in return, and told her the "superstition" associated with giving knives as gifts. Her boyfriend is a good kid, and him and his father collect all kinds of different knives.

Also, I got an old old Case leg knife from a buddy of mine, and he told me to give him a penny. Only time I can remember giving a penny.
 
my wife gave me my first custom knive almost 20 years ago. i have carried that knive in many states and several other countrys. i have used it to skin a hell of a lot of game for my wife and kids. i would not trade it for new loveless hunting knive. i think knives are wonderful gifts. i would love for one of you slip-joint guys to mail one of those bose knives to me for x-mas.
 
I agree, Rick. My wife gave me my first really good knife several years ago and has kept up the tradition a few times since. Sure makes a special knife even moreso.
 
Yes it is tradition from where I am. Grandfather always made us exchange a coin for a knife. So when I set out the crews knifes I set a piece of paper for them to tape their coins to and even the new members figure it out.
 
My son gave me a Buck Alpha folder two years ago for my birthday, and had an inscription put on the blade. I had always liked knives, and have always had a few around, but he knew not what he done did. For that knife was the impetus for my current disease, which is now utterly incurable. Since then I have given two knives away (good ones) to people who shocked me by obviously "not caring less." I have tried to talk knives to people (I have lived amongst hunters, cowboys and farmers for 61 years), and get zero reaction. It's just my son and I for now, but it is a great bonding affinity for us.
 
My son gave me a Buck Alpha folder two years ago for my birthday, and had an inscription put on the blade. I had always liked knives, and have always had a few around, but he knew not what he done did. For that knife was the impetus for my current disease, which is now utterly incurable. Since then I have given two knives away (good ones) to people who shocked me by obviously "not caring less." I have tried to talk knives to people (I have lived amongst hunters, cowboys and farmers for 61 years), and get zero reaction. It's just my son and I for now, but it is a great bonding affinity for us.


This has ceased to surprise me anymore. I've lived in Maryland, Colorado, Massachusetts, Texas, traveled in Germany and the U.K. I've been with hunters, watermen, soldiers, cowboys, and most people in between. Most of them couldn't care less about knives, even though they had a knife in thier pocket. It's just like a screwdriver or comb, or wallet. Its just something they may realize they need, but its just an item.

The only thing I can think of as a comparison, is gun owners. The N.R.A. has about 3.8 million members. These are gun owners that are shooting enthusiasts. They buy guns like we buy knives, take them out and practice, sometimes re-load ammo to shoot more with cheaper ammo. On the other hand there are about 30 million other gun owners who don't belong to the N.R.A., don't go shooting regularly, but have a fathers or uncles, or a husbands old gun in the closet or under the bed. They won't get rid of it, but it just sits there because they have a feeling it may be usefull to have some day. And if one reads the Armed Citizen in the American Rifleman, sometimes it does. Like the stories of an old widow who hears something downstairs, and on investigating with her deceased husbands .38 revolver that hasn't been fired in 30 years, finds an intruder. The old lady shoots the intruder in self defence and the old gun has now justified it's existance in her life.

There's people out there carrying a knife that is sort of in the same class.
 
I have gifted quite a few RR and Steel warrior slippies to non-knife friends.
They are all happy to receive them, and they use them.
And one is enough, they do not want more than one.
One of my friends told me it was too nice to use as a work knife for his gardening business, so he got a second much more serious knife, which he is very happy with and uses it for work.

My girls are a different story!
They ask!
Oh Daddy that is nice!
One asked for a Queen Senator in Abalone for her 18th
Two absconded with a Boker SubCom each
Another with small toothpick in peachseed bone
And then the small RR sawcut bone stockman...
Ect, ect, ect....

Keeps them happy!!
 
>The only thing I can think of as a comparison, is gun owners.<

That hit pretty close to home for me. Years ago, my wife's Grandfather sold his ranch and retired and moved into town. He had lived in that house for probably 50 years.

A while after he moved into town, I remembered an old double barrelled shotgun with external hammers that he had kept on the back porch at the ranch. I'd gotten interested in guns, and asked him what he had done with it. He said that he had just left it there, along with all the rakes, hoes, etc. "You don't need a gun in town" was his reply. That shotgun was nothing more than a tool to him and he didn't need it in town any more than he needed his tractor.

I wish I had some friends or relatives that would appreciate a knife as a gift, but I don't.
 
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