Knives/bayonets "missing" from last move

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Just a heads up if anyone comes across these. Please drop me a line. They are probably in the Maryland area but can't swear to that.

Also, I would NOT have Affiliated Transportation Systems (ATS) , Inc out of Lawton OK handle your next move if you can help it!!!!!!

All of these knives and bayonets were gathered up in my house and mysteriously never were put on the inventory sheet and have since disappearred.

I'm out about $3k as it stands now. Police report has been filed so I may get some help if you run into the lot of them.

Swedish bayonet for M96
Japanese Training bayonet
Japanese Training bayonet
Japanese bayonet, Jinsen Arsenal, with leather frog
Japanese bayonet, Tokyo Arsenal Serial Number- 997322
Japanese bayonet
Japanese bayonet
Japanese bayonet, “last ditch model”, Serial Number 686572
Japanese bayonet
Hk91 bayonet
Turkish Mauser bayonet
k98 bayonet
M1 Garand bayonet, mint
Mosin Nagant M91 bayonet
LF&C WWI Trench knife with sheath
Bagwell bowie “Hell’s Belle” knife model
Ontario knife M16 bayonet
CRKT Polkowski Kasper
Becker Knife and Tool BK9 with custom kydex sheath from Sheath Mechanic and micarta grips
Italian Carcano Bayonet
Italian Carcano Bayonet
Italian Carcano Bayonet, with leather frog
Yugoslavian 48 bayonet
Beretta M-9 “Defender of Freedom” Knife in the glass box
Uncle Henry 153 knife, numbered
Schrade Sharpfinger knife

Thanks,
 
I live right off of I-83, work in Baltimore, and my stomping grounds comprise central/easern MD, south central PA, northern DE. Where were they lost, I'll check the pawn shops, and drop you an email if I see anything. Some of the pawn shops are members here, too.
 
Thanks to both of you!

Now I start to fight to hopefully get paid for at least part of the lose. However, they want receipts, pictures and lots of paperwork.

Thieving bastards..........
 
The first time I ever moved when I was in the service, I lost 3 or 4 good knives. It just never dawned on me that the friendly moving guys would steal my stuff. Ever since then I always took my knives in my car along with stuff like my wife's jewelry. Actually, I've never had a move where something (fishing rod, sporting goods etc.) was not stolen. I just make sure they can't steal the really important stuff.

I sure hope you can get at least some of your stuff back.
 
This was a military move also and the guys seem to have their plan down pretty well so I'm confident it's not the first time they've done it. Pretty sad. Life is hectic for everyone. However, Soldiers rarely have time to fight these SOB's these days.

At least I'm around for a few months and may be able to get some justice for myself and try to protect some of the guys in the future.

I moved all the firearms and about all I could handle myself. I just never imagined that they would take so many of them that it would hit me so hard.

Maggots.
 
Silent,
I was in Columbia.

Thanks for keeping an eye out. It's a long shot but you never know.

Thanks!
 
When moving with "professional" moves:

1) Inventory and photograph valuables ahead of time and collect them into one place. Tell the foreman of the packers, "Here is a collection of valuable knives. Here is a list of them and here is a photograph of them. Add this list to the official inventory." Obviously, he can't say, "This is an M96 Bayonet." He's not an expert. But he can verify the count, the general discriptions, and that they more or less resemble the picture(s).

2) Tell them upfront that you will not sign off any PBO or CU boxes. PBO means "Packed by owner." CU means "content unknown." This refers to something that anyone other than they put into a box and sealed or put into any kind of container being moved intact such as a dresser with stuff left in the drawers. When they note an item as CU or PBO, they are only responsible to deliver the item. They are not responsible for the contents since they can't know what the contents are or how they're packed. If you want them responsible for the contents, which you usually do, then they will have to open the container, inspect, and, if they feel necessary, repack.

3) Tell them upfront that you will not sign off on anything noted as MCU unless you agree to it at the time the item is packed. MCU means "mechanical condition unknown." This means they are only responsible to physically deliver the item, not for any other damage to it. So, if your big-screen TV goes onto the truck working flawlessly but is noted on the manifest as MCU, and it comes off the truck not working at all, that's your problem... and your expense. If they want to note it as MCU, then you will demonstrate to them that it works and they can remove that note.

4) Tell them upfront that you will not sign off on any notes of damage on anything unless you inspect it with them at the time the notation is made. If they put the dining room table onto the truck first thing in the morning and then come to you at 5:00 in the afternoon with a manifest for you to sign that notes a scratch on that table, then you will insist that they either remove that note from the manifest or unpack the entire truck, bring the table out, and show you the scratch.

I've found that establishing these simple rules upfront helps vastly.
 
I am in the same area as silent, I am hitting up my local pawn shops tomorrow and wednesday(some are closed tuesdays) around the Ft.Meade, Glen-Burnie, Brooklyn, B-more area. I printed out your list, I'll see if I find anything.

Could you expand on the area perhaps? I will be in Frederick on Wednesday and in Southern MD on Friday.
 
I like Gollnick's advice. Always make sure that you know what's going where and the condition of everything before it goes.

You deserve justice, of course, but there's also a greater lesson for everyone to learn here. Never trust anyone with your belongings until you've done your homework and researched every other option. Even then there's no guarantee that you'll get all of your stuff in tact.

I don't like people in my house that I don't know, period. I wouldn't let anyone near my stuff even if it meant making three or four or ten trips by car to move most of my stuff. Just keep in mind that you've always got options.

I wish you the best of luck in getting your knives back... it's a sickening feeling to know that someone you trusted has taken advantage of you.
 
All i can say is good luck my friend hope it works out well for you in the end.

take care and hopefully they all turn up soon

aj
 
TorzJohnson said:
The first time I ever moved when I was in the service, I lost 3 or 4 good knives. It just never dawned on me that the friendly moving guys would steal my stuff. Ever since then I always took my knives in my car along with stuff like my wife's jewelry. Actually, I've never had a move where something (fishing rod, sporting goods etc.) was not stolen. I just make sure they can't steal the really important stuff.

I sure hope you can get at least some of your stuff back.
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Same here. I've been moved on the military's dime with several different moving companies. I NEVER let them move my knives, guns or other valuables. I go through the hassle of getting a UHaul trailer and move the valuables myself. It's a pain, but the bottom line is that you will not be able to replace many of your firearms or knives.

I now have a couple of very large tool cabinets (two of them that make a large working bench with the laminated 150lb wood top-bench). These I can store some of my more inexpensive knives and lock them securily. Last two moves I had no problems. Hope you get resolution on the missing items, nothing pisses me off like thieves!

ROCK6
 
I moved a lot of stuff myself and obviously should have moved more of it!

I just never imagined that they would take so many if they took any. They pretty much took every knife and bayonet that I didn't take.

Next time I'll do things very differently. However, I would the Army and a "professional" moving company to not send thieves into my home.

Sadly, I'm sure they have robbed many other soldiers over the years. I'm lucky in that I'm home for a few months to fight the bastards, unlike many others who didn't have the time before they left.
 
Hey my Friend. I'll be at the Howard Co. Silverado Show in 2 weeks. I'll keep an eye out for any one coming by my tables peddling bayonets & etc. Also, will try to alert some of the other dealers.

I miss you coming by the table to talk blades & other important issues. ;)

Good Luck to you.

(Damn shame about the Sharpfinger too)
 
If the army hired the movers, then they've got some responsibility in the matter too. Take it up with them.

Were the knives covered in your home owner's insurance?
 
Ya--Anything of value move yourself---guns--knives--jewelry---silverware---tools--anything of sentimental value. Have them packed away in a U-haul before they ever get there.

Just let movers move the big stuff you can't handle yourself.
 
Just an update on this.

The moving company has sent my claim to their insurance company since it's almost $5k in damages and stolen goods. So, it's 2+ weeks more before I hear anything from their insurance company.

Wish I could hold their $5k interest free for several months.

Avoid this company if you can!
 
Well now, I can't get their insurance company to return my calls since they kicked it over to a 3rd party adjuster who hasn't return my calls or contacted me either. This has been going on since July.

Lesson learned for me guys.

Understand that you're going to get the shaft if you don't move stuff yourself. I was lucky for years but got taken this last time.

I think the muslim may have the right take on thieves........

Avoid Affiliated Transportation Systems (ATS) at ALL COSTS!
 
Have you thought about a lawyer? Just a registered letter with "The Law Offices of So-and-so" on the letterhead sometimes works wonders, and doesn't cost an arm and a leg.
 
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