Knives for Cutting Competition

rbmcmjr · Oct 14, 2007

Ban said:
I have no friggin idea that the heck that is...

It's a motorcycle that we both like. This is mine:

Sort of an inside joke between Mulder and me.

Rick

Keith_H · Oct 14, 2007

I didn't know what the length limits were, so i guess the FSH would be perfect at 14". Because I think putting a cutting wheel to an FBM would be :thumbdn:

Ban · Oct 14, 2007

rbmcmjr said:
It's a motorcycle that we both like. This is mine:

Sort of an inside joke between Mulder and me.

Rick

Ah I see.... no wonder I didn't get it

Ban · Oct 14, 2007

Keith_H said:
I didn't know what the length limits were, so i guess the FSH would be perfect at 14". Because I think putting a cutting wheel to an FBM would be :thumbdn:

The limit is 15inches overall. A FSH should be within that limit. However, I would prefer the longer blade of a FBM.

Cobalt · Oct 14, 2007

Ban said:
The limit is 15inches overall. A FSH should be within that limit. However, I would prefer the longer blade of a FBM.

I agree. You can take the metal from the butt and leave it on the blade. That would also push your balance forward a little while keeping the blade light.

Ban · Oct 14, 2007

Cobalt said:
I agree. You can take the metal from the butt and leave it on the blade. That would also push your balance forward a little while keeping the blade light.

EXACTLY! Maximize blade length to get the forward balance. However, I would want it to be leaning on the anorexic side.

Cobalt · Oct 14, 2007

Ban said:
EXACTLY! Maximize blade length to get the forward balance. However, I would want it to be leaning on the anorexic side.

well you could try it on an ZTBM by grinding the butt down to the handle a-la BA-E and giving it a wicked Ban edge. That knife could do the trick if you want anorexic. You could also do this to a BM-E, both of which are way lighter than all the other bM's made.

Ban · Oct 14, 2007

Cobalt said:
well you could try it on an ZTBM by grinding the butt down to the handle a-la BA-E and giving it a wicked Ban edge. That knife could do the trick if you want anorexic. You could also do this to a BM-E, both of which are way lighter than all the other bM's made.

Cobalt,

I sorta prefer the FBM because of the wider blade. The sectional density of a full flat 3/16 2inch wide blade is better than a full flat 3/16 1.5inch wide blade. On top of that the wider blade still has some heft even if it is thinned down to 3/16.

I really do like the idea of the Ergo handles. The Ergo handles have alot more modding potential than the Fusion handles.

Cobalt · Oct 14, 2007

Ban said:
Cobalt,

I sorta prefer the FBM because of the wider blade. The sectional density of a full flat 3/16 2inch wide blade is better than a full flat 3/16 1.5inch wide blade. On top of that the wider blade still has some heft even if it is thinned down to 3/16.

I really do like the idea of the Ergo handles. The Ergo handles have alot more modding potential than the Fusion handles.

Very true about sectional density. However, the ZT series blades are actually a lot wider than the std Ergos. So it would put you closer to what you want. I think the sectional density of the ZTBM is probably greater than the FBM

voracious · Oct 14, 2007

Cobalt said:
well you could try it on an ZTBM by grinding the butt down to the handle a-la BA-E and giving it a wicked Ban edge. That knife could do the trick if you want anorexic. You could also do this to a BM-E, both of which are way lighter than all the other bM's made.

ztbm ground down to aftershock bolo profile.
yeah that's the ticket.
or just a zero edge AS bolo.

jody

Cobalt · Oct 14, 2007

voracious said:
ztbm ground down to aftershock bolo profile.
yeah that's the ticket.
or just a zero edge AS bolo.

jody

yes, but the AS bolo suffers from the same as the std BM-E since it is not as wide as a ZT.

resinguy · Oct 14, 2007

Ban, have you sen this one?

http://www.agrussell.com/knives/pro...ing_crowell_and_barker_competition_knife.html

There has not been as much discussion of this knife on BF as I might have thought, but there have been a few post about it.

Ban · Oct 14, 2007

resinguy said:
Ban, have you sen this one?

http://www.agrussell.com/knives/pro...ing_crowell_and_barker_competition_knife.html

There has not been as much discussion of this knife on BF as I might have thought, but there have been a few post about it.

Yeah I have seen that one before. I am tempted to buy one just to check it out. I wonder how close that knife is to a true competition knife that the heavy hitters use.

Ban · Oct 14, 2007

Cobalt said:
Very true about sectional density. However, the ZT series blades are actually a lot wider than the std Ergos. So it would put you closer to what you want. I think the sectional density of the ZTBM is probably greater than the FBM

Are you sure the ZT blades are wider? I have played with a Satin one from Justabuyer and a coated one from Hogwash and did not notice that they were wider than the standard Ergos. If they are wider then it is really something to look into. Ok, anyone has a ZTNO they can sell me

Cobalt · Oct 28, 2007

Ban said:
Are you sure the ZT blades are wider? I have played with a Satin one from Justabuyer and a coated one from Hogwash and did not notice that they were wider than the standard Ergos. If they are wider then it is really something to look into. Ok, anyone has a ZTNO they can sell me

Sorry Ban, I did not see this before. Yes, I have compared 5 ergos to 5 ZT and all of them are wider by a lot.

spyken · Oct 28, 2007

seems like the competition cutter blades are mostly 1/4" at the ricasso, but taper a lot.

I prefer 3/16" for tropical jungle work. In fact most long blades are actually around 5/32".