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K.O.D. said:
Actually, I'm looking at a CZ P-10 C with threaded barrel for her. Put a Holosun on it, a light, and a suppressor. My stepfather has severe tinnitus so I want to save his ears. Part of the gun will be property defense too, in case raccoons get into the chicken coop. Or meth heads looking for something to eat...
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For a house gun I would not mount an optical sight on a handgun unless the user is going to get really proficient using it. Finding that dot in a split second under stress with all the visual clutter inside a house is not going to be easy to master. Better in my opinion is just the light and iron sights. Just my two cents.
 
RPZIP said:
For a house gun I would not mount an optical sight on a handgun unless the user is going to get really proficient using it. Finding that dot in a split second under stress with all the visual clutter inside a house is not going to be easy to master. Better in my opinion is just the light and iron sights. Just my two cents.
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Well for now, I gave her my S&W model 36 (.38 special). She's comfortable with it, and once she recovers from some physical issues we are going to go gun shopping. I always keep a light on in my house, so finding irons is no problem for me. I keep two guns in the pistol safe next to my bed--Chiappa Rhino 30DS .357mag and a Steyr M9-a1 with 18rds 9mm.

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Terry M. said:
Some range time at my buddy’s place. Zeroing in the green dot reflex sight on the Bodyguard. This is a whole different world than iron sights. Not sure I like it or not.


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Same here Terry, regarding the green dot sight. Late last year, I bought a S&W 2.0 Compact, “bundle deal”. It came with a couple extra magazines, a range bag, and a Viridian green dot sight. I tried it one time, on Christmas Eve, and came home and removed the sight. I’ve been thinking about giving it another try, but still have my doubts. Like they say, “You can’t teach an old dog new tricks”. 😜
 
Terry M. said:
It’s fantastic as after many years of working with my hands arthritis is starting to set in and sometimes loading those mags is really tough
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I have to agree with this 100%. If I load up 10 or so magazines I am in some painfrom arhtitis but I could load them all day with a Maglula and feel fine. But even if I did not have to contend with arhtritis they are faster and easier to load magazines with.
 
The Fort said:
Same here Terry, regarding the green dot sight. Late last year, I bought a S&W 2.0 Compact, “bundle deal”. It came with a couple extra magazines, a range bag, and a Viridian green dot sight. I tried it one time, on Christmas Eve, and came home and removed the sight. I’ve been thinking about giving it another try, but still have my doubts. Like they say, “You can’t teach an old dog new tricks”. 😜
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I was able to acquire the green dot almost immediately upon raising to high ready but my hands shake too much and the little dot bounces around. Trained 25 years to focus on the iron sites. I’m not removing the green dot just yet but I am kicking it around.
 
Terry M. said:
I was able to acquire the green dot almost immediately upon raising to high ready but my hands shake too much and the little dot bounces around. Trained 25 years to focus on the iron sites. I’m not removing the green dot just yet but I am kicking it around.
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Keep us posted! I’d like to know if you end up adapting, or sticking to the iron sights. 👊🏻
 
Terry M. said:
I was able to acquire the green dot almost immediately upon raising to high ready but my hands shake too much and the little dot bounces around. Trained 25 years to focus on the iron sites. I’m not removing the green dot just yet but I am kicking it around.
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2 red dot tips, if I may:

1) It's fairly normal that a dot "floats" over the target and will not hold as steady as an iron sight will. But clamping down harder on the pistol to try and keep the dot steady doesn't really work, and usually just makes it move around even more. With standard grip pressure, keep the dot floating over the desired part of the target and smoothly press the trigger. It works.

2) It's really common for people to talk about "struggling to find the dot." This is because they are trying to find the dot, rather than letting the dot move into their field of vision, if that makes sense. This often involves taking your focus off the target and trying to 'see/find' the dot inside the optic window. Instead, keep focused on the target the whole time and and present the pistol so that the dot simply appears, superimposed over the target, but without ever focusing on the dot itself. Stay target-focused the whole time. It takes some practice, but so did learning to properly align iron sights in the beginning. One of the bonuses to the dot is that you don't have to align two things, and then keep them perfectly aligned through the trigger press - you simple keep the dot on the target. This is why people who are proficient with dots will say that it's actually quicker than irons. But again, getting to that point takes practice. The other obvious advantage is that you are staying target-focused the whole time, rather than shifting focus from the target, to your sights, and then back to the target again.

I strongly recommend dry practice, if you have a safe place to do it. Lots of reps presenting the dot to the target will pay off. I also highly recommend the technique of bringing the pistol up to eye level closer to your eye, and then pushing out to full extension, so that by by the time you're at full extension, you've already acquired the dot and are ready to fire (this works great with irons as well). Sometimes people struggle because they bring the pistol up more or less already at full extension, and then are "fishing" around trying to find the dot at that point, or, with irons they are waiting to align their sights until they are at full extension, which is slower.
 
Hammer67 said:
2 red dot tips, if I may:

1) It's fairly normal that a dot "floats" over the target and will not hold as steady as an iron sight will. But clamping down harder on the pistol to try and keep the dot steady doesn't really work, and usually just makes it move around even more. With standard grip pressure, keep the dot floating over the desired part of the target and smoothly press the trigger. It works.

2) It's really common for people to talk about "struggling to find the dot." This is because they are trying to find the dot, rather than letting the dot move into their field of vision, if that makes sense. This often involves taking your focus off the target and trying to 'see/find' the dot inside the optic window. Instead, keep focused on the target the whole time and and present the pistol so that the dot simply appears, superimposed over the target, but without ever focusing on the dot itself. Stay target-focused the whole time. It takes some practice, but so did learning to properly align iron sights in the beginning. One of the bonuses to the dot is that you don't have to align two things, and then keep them perfectly aligned through the trigger press - you simple keep the dot on the target. This is why people who are proficient with dots will say that it's actually quicker than irons. But again, getting to that point takes practice. The other obvious advantage is that you are staying target-focused the whole time, rather than shifting focus from the target, to your sights, and then back to the target again.

I strongly recommend dry practice, if you have a safe place to do it. Lots of reps presenting the dot to the target will pay off. I also highly recommend the technique of bringing the pistol up to eye level closer to your eye, and then pushing out to full extension, so that by by the time you're at full extension, you've already acquired the dot and are ready to fire (this works great with irons as well). Sometimes people struggle because they bring the pistol up more or less already at full extension, and then are "fishing" around trying to find the dot at that point, or, with irons they are waiting to align their sights until they are at full extension, which is slower.
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Freaking fantastic advice! I will always take advice find what I can use!
 
Not to turn this into a running discussion, but there are several reasons I won't be putting any opticals on my handguns, so I'll make some bullet points and butt out.

Most deadly encounters, in the home or on the street, involve distances from contact range out to a very short distance. Recognition of a deadly threat, reaction time, decision to shoot - action. You'll be lucky if you can get a flash sight picture roughly aligning the sights with center mass of the target. Point; an optical sight will not work in this way beyond very very close distance.

Coming out cold into warmer humid will fog any optic. Think; getting out of your car running a/c into warmer and damper air. Coming out of an air conditioned building going to the car. Lots of deadly encounters happen at gas stations, supermarket parking lots etc.

Rain. Have a deadly encounter out in the rain, especially if it's wind driven rain and it goes beyond 2 or 3 seconds, your optical sight is likely to be useless.

High quality state of the art electronic sights have a low failure rate, but they do occasionally fail. And batteries can die, leak.

Nope, I'll stick with irons.

When the SAS stormed the Iranian embassy in London in 1980 they used flashlights with focused beams mounted to their MP5s. It was a deadly effective combination. This is the way to go - or laser - imo. I am currently looking for a pistol light that affords a narrow focused beam.
 
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RPZIP said:
Not to turn this into a running discussion, but there are several reasons I won't be putting any opticals on my handguns, so I'll make some bullet points and butt out.

Most deadly encounters, in the home or on the street, involve distances from contact range out to a very short distance. Recognition of a deadly threat, reaction time, decision to shoot - action. You'll be lucky if you can get a flash sight picture roughly aligning the sights with center mass of the target. Point; an optical sight will not work in this way beyond very very close distance.

Coming out cold into warmer humid will fog any optic. Think; getting out of your car running a/c into warmer and damper air. Coming out of an air conditioned building going to the car. Lots of deadly encounters happen at gas stations, supermarket parking lots etc.

Rain. Have a deadly encounter out in the rain, especially if it's wind driven rain and it goes beyond 2 or 3 seconds, your optical sight is likely to be useless.

High quality state of the art electronic sights have a low failure rate, but they do occasionally fail. And batteries can die, leak.

Nope, I'll stick with irons.

When the SAS stormed the Iranian embassy in London in 1980 they used flashlights with focused beams mounted to their MP5s. It was a deadly effective combination. This is the way to go - or laser - imo. I am currently looking for a pistol light that affords a narrow focused beam.
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Well thought out points. Thank you for sharing.
 
Most *quality* red dot sights are anti-fog. One thing I think is very important on a hd/sd gun is that the optic is low enough to still be able to use or even co-witness the iron sights. That way, in the event of a failure, you can still aim reliably.

I always keep a light on, so i dont really need a light on my gun. I'm a light sleeper so I notice if that light gets turned off, or if a door opens. Either will wake me up. I've lived alone most of my life, and when I was 21 had my apartment broken into. Ever since I've slept lightly.
 
I'm not going to try and sell anyone on red dots - they are a great help for some (including those who are cross-eye dominant), and for others they are simply not worth it. Personally, most of my pistols don't have them, but I do have a fair bit of time behind them.

There are a lot of outdated myths, and flat-out incorrect information about red dots, often by people who haven't spent much, if any, time with them. Suffice to say them have come a really long way, even just in the last 5 years or so.

Most police departments are using them, the Armed Forces are using them, including those at the tip of the spear who absolutely need something that is 100% reliable and rock solid. They wouldn't use them if many of the supposed short-comings were accurate. I'll just put that out there.
 
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