Knives in Space ... Really!

I wonder what the notch out of the front of the blade is for.

It's the one change Mr. Emerson made in the Specwar for them...it's a guthook cut the Special Forces guys liked a lot. He put it on the NASA. The a'nauts thought it handy for opening their food packs, etc.

Regarding the subject, I think NASA chose the model as it already met their specs (another "YAYUSS !" for Emerson) and then added the guthook spec.

AFAIK, you can only get them through vent-deep NASA. I've wondered how many people who know anyone affiliated w/ NASA in ANY way have tried to get a connection to one of those....and how many actually got one.
 
EChoil Makes sense since you don't really have much to just put the tip on to cut against.

From what I've read about the way NASA buys stuff its more a matter of someone seeing a thing, it fitting a need, and it meeting the approvals. an amazing amount of stuff there is off the shelf.

As far as carry, astronauts get to carry pretty well what they want, within weight limits, of course. But a lot of gear that goes up, just stays up. Not much point bringing it back if you might need it. Someone probably figured, the SAK is nice, but we need a one-hand opener for some things, and given how NASA is populated with air force guys, its probably something a lot of them were already familiar with from their air-flight times. If the spec-war was in circulation with the SERE instructors, its what would be familiar to a lot of pilots. And to them that familiarity matters a lot, there might be better, but when someone (not an astronaut, probably whoever got the job of packing the survival kits) is looking down a list of all the stuff that is approved for procurement, they don't have time to bring in 50 samples. Outgassing of plastics is more critical than almost anything else to them. And maybe it just looked cool.

From what I understand NASA pretty often gets stuff in the 10s and 20s, I think the original Vic was a couple hundred units because that's what Vic was willing to do, and they were sort of part of the whole program which was supposed to be much bigger. The are constantly evaluating stuff, but its often companies trying to get things into the program, not necessarily trying to fill a critical role. They were much more pedantic about that back in the Gemini days, but it was a far more military mindset back then, now its up to the engineers.
 
Would they even be "allowed" to carry one at all these days??

IMO? Oh yeah. Probably no real restrictions these days. Even the cutlery isn't 'butter knife' anymore. The have guns too. If for no other reason than survival kits. Of course they're modified a bit for space.
 
.......From what I understand NASA pretty often gets stuff in the 10s and 20s, I think the original Vic was a couple hundred units because that's what Vic was willing to do, and they were sort of part of the whole program which was supposed to be much bigger.....

Unless there's been a re-order, the original buy in the NASA-knife deal was "30-only," delivered in '99 I believe.
 
The Camillus 1776 "Demo"/Army Utility knife (spear point main, flat screwdriver/bottle opener combo, can opener, and awl, all stainless steel, including the covers) went on all the Gemini and Apollo missions.
Senator John Glenn's knife (taken to the moon and back) is in a museum display of things the astronauts took into space.
 
The Camillus 1776 "Demo"/Army Utility knife (spear point main, flat screwdriver/bottle opener combo, can opener, and awl, all stainless steel, including the covers) went on all the Gemini and Apollo missions.
Senator John Glenn's knife (taken to the moon and back) is in a museum display of things the astronauts took into space.

Since John Glenn didn't go to the moon he must have.....loaned his knife. :eek:
 
i'm old. my memory ain't what it used to be - if it ever was what I think I remember it was.
Any rate, maybe it was Neil Armstron's knife? Whoever said. "small step for man big step for mankind" or what ever just before he jumped and let go of the ladder. (and against all odds did not go neck deep or deeper in lunar dust.)
 
Unless there's been a re-order, the original buy in the NASA-knife deal was "30-only," delivered in '99 I believe.

I was going off memory, got it a bit wrong. SAKwiki has it that 50 master craftsmans were the original order, and as that knife has evolved, it was called the astronaut as well, and one would think that other batches have been purchased at some point. the original buy was in 78, and was off the shelf. Either way, its all cool stuff.
 
i'm old. my memory ain't what it used to be - if it ever was what I think I remember it was.
Any rate, maybe it was Neil Armstron's knife? Whoever said. "small step for man big step for mankind" or what ever just before he jumped and let go of the ladder. (and against all odds did not go neck deep or deeper in lunar dust.)

I'm trying to think who may have said that.... :cool:
 
A few months ago I had a random idea about knife use by astronauts. I was thinking about use in spacesuits though. The spacesuit gloves make it hard to operate a folding knife, and the additional motions of opening and closing increase the risk of cutting a hole in the suit, so I was thinking a D/A OTF would be a good tool for them. It could be opened and closed without getting close to the cutting edge, and could be adapted for use with the big gloves on. What lead me to this thought was that an OTF would be a good work knife for someone that needs to use their work knife frequently.
 
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