Knives Not Allowed!

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ouc

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Have you ever been stopped and not permitted to enter with a knife in your pocket?

Ok me first. I went to Disneyland, CA. on on vacation with the family. Wife, two little girls and myself pushing a double stroller. I go there about 8 times a year. At the California Adventures entrance, a short cast member (older lady) ran up to me and asked, "Sir is that knife in your pocket?" I said "yes" (I carry Bench Made Torrent 890). She proceeded to tell me the knives are not allowed in the park and sorry that the first bag check point missed spotting and telling me that. Then she radioed who knows who and another older man walked up behind me and said "the knife doesn't go in or it gets confiscated". "After 9/11 they are not allowed". Then he radioed someone else. Quite a silly site I think and just couldn't get angry about it since it is private property and have to abide by their rules. (I can't help but to think I live among sheep).
So then I tell my wife this is silly and just made a comment to her "California paranoia". I told the lady I would take it bake to my car. I got escorted back to the second check point. I wasn't about to walk all the way back to the car so entered a rest room (in case their we're camera's on me) and concealed it in my camera bag then re-entered the park.
The lady had quite an eye to catch a glimpse of the pocket clip on my shorts in all that chaos. They make quite a spectacle of this. You would've thought I was OCing a pistol. I know she was just doing her job but all the more reason to conceal next time.

So have you had a similar thing happened to you?
 
If I'm going somewhere where I feel it may grab some unwanted attention I'll usually slip my knife in my waistband or deep pocket carry it. Examples of this would be a baseball game or sporting event or an amusement park in your case.
 
only places with metal detectors, all honesty, i always unclip my knife and let it rest in my pocket when i go into more official feeling or family orientated places
 
only places with metal detectors, all honesty, i always unclip my knife and let it rest in my pocket when i go into more official feeling or family orientated places
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I do the same thing, depending on the place
 
I make a point of concealing everything, because far too large a majority of people these days are cowardly, reactionary twits. BTW, I have (and will continue to) CCW in the Disney parks. I'm not worried about anything inside the parks, but refuse to be unarmed for the rest of the day in either Orlando or Los Angelus. Being held up just one time in a gas station along with another customer and the teller when I'd left my gun at home (having had to visit a post office) has left me with very little sense of humor on this subject. That watch I lost was my grandfather's, and can't be replaced, and I just didn't like looking down the barrel of that POS Hi-Point.

Start trying out IWB carry of your clipped folders in the four or five o'clock position. With a belt, it's almost invisible, people aren't looking for it there anyway, and in my opinion it's far more comfortable and leaves your pockets free for items that actually require pockets.
 
My wife keeps buying us the stupid annual passes to disney land. A couple of months ago she talked me in to going. Usually I just put my knife down inside my pocket and it's no big deal. This time I forgot and left it clipped. The guy told me that I could return it to my car (30+ min round trip by tram) or surrender it to them and not get it back. So I politely said I would return it to my car. Walked away, put the knife deep in my pocket, and sat down for about 5 mins. and when the next tram showed up I just blended in with the people getting off and went to a different security guy.

Their security is a joke but I guess it makes the sheeple feel more secure.
 
I have a friend who is a big time knife collector and finances his addiction by working as a deputy sheriff here in Nova Scotia. His organization provides court security and, if weapons need to be checked for, they're the ones that do it. Recently he advised me of a potential policy change that had been discussed. Where once am item that would be otherwise legal but simply not permitted in court - a Swiss Army Knife for example - would simply be held until the bearer left the court room and then returned to him or her, the new policy would end with outright confiscation.

I asked him the theoretical question: if he was working, I came into court, and voluntarily handed him my legally owned and carried knife to hold in safe keeping until I came back, would he return it to me?

His answer: Not if I want to keep my job.

He's no happier about it than I am, or anyone else here I'm sure, and he has spoken out against it. I'm not sure if the policy is in effect yet, but I am watching and listening.
 
Most places don't pat you down, so when they ask me to show the contents of my pockets, I just leave the knife in my pocket. I wear relaxed fit jeans/shorts and it doesn't print at all. I've also stuck my knife inside my shoe until I'm in and then I put it in my pocket or waist band.
 
I got mine taken from me when I went into a small concert hall, but he gave it back at the end. I have no problem with that.
 
Many of the museums in Washington DC and Maryland have vague "no weapons" rules or say "no sharp objects such as knives or scissors." However, they do not pat you down and the "metal detectors" are actually fake or inactive. They search your bags though or subject them to x-ray. I believe that their internal policy prohibits actual body searches (due to liability of sexual harassment). I found this in practice to be hilarious: My wife's in shorts and short sleeves and they demand to see her tiny pink purse, meanwhile I'm standing right next to her in cargo pants, camera hanging by a neck strap and a packed photographer's vest (which had OC, a baton and at least two large folders) and they ignore me completely.

Any place that has actual law enforcement officers or the force of law prohibiting knives (court house, federal building), I do not screw around with, and remove everything from my person down to the bare minimum that I need inside the place.
 
I used to carry a craftsman 4way screwdriver on my keychain (worked great on pH meters at work). I tried to enter the City/County building in Indianapolis with it...you would have thought I had a machine gun.

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glistam said:
Any place that has actual law enforcement officers or the force of law prohibiting knives (court house, federal building), I do not screw around with, and remove everything from my person down to the bare minimum that I need inside the place.
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Big plus one though I believe you can check your pocket knives at the door and get them back. Not interested in testing that theory out though. As for other places I carry what I want or I leave.
 
I was told to return my SAK Sentinel w/clip to my car by a security guard at a casino in AZ. It's private property, can't really argue there. I still had the SAK classic on my key chain so I had some sort of cutting instrument, and my CRKT Tao pen wasn't given a second look so I'm aye-okay there.
 
ouc said:
Have you ever been stopped and not permitted to enter with a knife in your pocket?

Ok me first. I went to Disneyland, CA. on on vacation with the family. Wife, two little girls and myself pushing a double stroller. I go there about 8 times a year. At the California Adventures entrance, a short cast member (older lady) ran up to me and asked, "Sir is that knife in your pocket?" I said "yes" (I carry Bench Made Torrent 890). She proceeded to tell me the knives are not allowed in the park and sorry that the first bag check point missed spotting and telling me that. Then she radioed who knows who and another older man walked up behind me and said "the knife doesn't go in or it gets confiscated". "After 9/11 they are not allowed". Then he radioed someone else. Quite a silly site I think and just couldn't get angry about it since it is private property and have to abide by their rules. (I can't help but to think I live among sheep).
So then I tell my wife this is silly and just made a comment to her "California paranoia". I told the lady I would take it bake to my car. I got escorted back to the second check point. I wasn't about to walk all the way back to the car so entered a rest room (in case their we're camera's on me) and concealed it in my camera bag then re-entered the park.
The lady had quite an eye to catch a glimpse of the pocket clip on my shorts in all that chaos. They make quite a spectacle of this. You would've thought I was OCing a pistol. I know she was just doing her job but all the more reason to conceal next time.

So have you had a similar thing happened to you?
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I have seen it happen. One time, it happened at an Oktoberfest here in MA. Same deal that you went through; some older b***h who tried to play cop and just could not mind her own damned business. While the young guy and his wife/girlfriend were getting harassed by the hag, I smiled to myself and proceeded in after paying the admission. The difference between me and that guy? He had his clipped to his pocket and I had mine completely concealed in my pocket. Out of sight, out of mind!
 
softrockrenegade said:
Once at six flags they wouldn't let me in with a Vic classic on my keys !!! What a joke !!!
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same thing happened with my dad and family, a few years ago we went to six flags new England and he like me loves knives and always has at least one on him. well he had a baby SOG multitool thing on his keys and they hassled him about it (the blade couldn't be over and inch) but eventually if i recall correctly the let him in the park with it. think about it, i mean if he wanted to cause trouble in the park he would be better off with his fists than that baby blade, all they gotta do is think...wait that's too hard for sheeple.
 
The NBC tour at Rockefeller Plaza in NYC. You have to pass through a metal detector. I had an Izula and a Tenacious on me that day. I got some eye-rolls from security, but they were actually pretty decent about it, all things considered. I checked the items with them and got them back upon exiting. This was a couple of years ago. I have not idea what they would do now.

Jordan
 
last year at Disneyland, same thing happened to me as we were going through the bag search, but they were watching me on video when I left the park (I was not completely off park grounds), and hid my knife in my shoe figuring it would be harder to find (hadnt seen anyone getting out of their shoes). The security guy that caught me the first time came up to me while I was in line and I knew I was busted, so I didnt lie when he asked me what I did with the knife (I just didnt say anything)... when he told me exactly where the knife was hidden, I left and made sure he saw me get on the bus.. went back to the hotel and left it in the room. Bus driver and I had a good conversation - happens to a lot of people.. The bus driver said (as I got on the bus) -"Busted for weapons policy?" and grinned.

I was fortunate it wasnt confiscated (min grip, had just bought it to replace the one I lost camping earlier that year), or that they didnt toss me out.

Funny thing was, my wife asked me later that day if I had the knife on me since we needed it to cut open a juice box for our little girl. I'm sure I'd have been tossed in Disney jail if I would have pulled it out and cut something open.
 
Attended a local concert last year at an outdoor venue. I had a Sog Flash 1 with me and totally forgot all about it until I reached security check. Being the honest person I am I just told them about the knife and asked if they could hold it for me until after the concert. Security guy tells me that he can hold it but that I won't be getting it back. Had a very nasty attitude about it that totally caught me off guard. So I just walked back about 1/2 a mile to my vehicle. It was crazy hot that day. Normally I don't get to upset about stuff like this. The attitude they had made me decide to never attend another concert there in the future though. All they had to say was, "We can't hold any personal items due to company policy." Hey no problem.
 
I think getting busted for a SAK classic on your key chain is the dumbest thing.

I've gotten turned around at 2 golf tournaments and 1 court house for that little SAK classic.
 
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