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Well, this was settled a lot faster than expected. For those who followed my previous ordeal, this thread is to clear up how the resolution unfolded. I originally intended to copy-paste my entire e-mail exchange with KSF here, to present things as honestly as possible, but due to some of the things that were written in our conversation, I was kindly asked to paraphrase for privacy's sake.

I'm not going to link to my previous two threads, and I ask you guys do the same. These can easily be searched if you don't know what the hell I'm talking about. No need in reviving them here.


So, for those who are up to speed: After Derrick Bohn first initiated contact with me on my Bark River GBU thread, I was immediately e-mailed by their Customer Service rep. There were no questions asked, no returns required; right away I was offered to select any other variant of the 20CV Mini-Canadian, regardless of price, to be shipped on the same day.

I explained to the rep that, while I appreciated the offer, I was very uncomfortable with receiving another knife from the brand in question. I felt any time I would use it, I would be reminded of negative events, both old and new. I said that, for principles' sake, all I should reasonably expect was some store credits amounting to the difference between the value of a 20CV and A2 knife. If that was not possible, I'd probably just organize some form of give-away.

Again, without discussing things any further, the CS rep replied and indicated the full value of the knife had been credited back to my KSF account.

So there you have it. If anyone had doubts about how Mr Bohn and KSF handle such issues, I hope my previous threads won't make you think twice about doing business with them. I can assure you they are some of the best people in the industry. It is my sincere belief that this whole mess was in large part the result of a lot of bad timing and bad luck.

For those of you wondering about BRKT, they never contacted me. That's all I'll say about them here. I don't enjoy conflict, whether I feel I'm in the right or in the wrong. There's really no winning in these disputes and it's not the kind of instance I'll be fondly remembering. So just like I asked that the BRKT thread not to be about KSF, I kindly ask that this KSF thread not turn into a BRKT discussion.

I should also mention, KSF has already cleaned up all the mislabeled products from their inventory. Since they did not ask me to return my knife, and since I feel no desire to keep it around, I decided that destroying it would be petty and chose to instead create some positivity out of this. So next time I'm out visiting an old friend in the countryside, I'll gift him the knife. Well, I won't gift it; I'll exchange it for a penny or a mango. I'm not exactly the superstitious kind, but it's been my experience that giving away knives can indeed cut friendships :)

I hope I did a good job of explaining everything and didn't skip any important details. And without going all "kumbaya" on you guys... I think the big take-away from this all is that we all make mistakes. I think everyone involved, myself included, is guilty of this to some extent. But what really matters is how you deal with these problems and what you can learn from them. I hope I can grow from this and better handle the situation next time. And I'm glad I was reminded that, even though business is all about money, it doesn't preclude certain people from showing both their integrity and empathy towards their customers.

I'll end this on a very pertinent quote from a chef I respect greatly:

"Not caring about making something delicious and just throwing it on the pan—it’s like a handjob without looking. If you’re technically sound, if you’re generous, if you’re kind and you have empathy for the people you work with and cook for, it will go well."
 
I was 99% sure Derrick would make it right, even if it was not his fault. Just took a little longer due to SHOT week...KSF rocks!
 
Been buying from and dealing with KSF for years. They are not just some "man the middle". They are very proactive at getting things resolved and are very trustworthy. I love how they take ownership of their role and advocate on your behalf. They are the prime example of what a good vendor/customer relationship is. Derrick is the closest thing to a patron saint in the knife world and his love of high quality knives is both real and infectious. His enthusiasm is what got me into knife collecting.
 
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Derrick is as good as it gets. There are a lot of companies that should take notes from KSF. Glad it's now all resolved for you!


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I'm glad to hear you got all squared away on this unfortunate mishap FM. There's several good dealers that have an active presence here on the forum and KSF remains one of the best in my eyes. I've seen Derrick prove his character by going above and beyond for several other members in my short time here, even if they weren't his customer. I know it was a bummer for you to get the cold shoulder from the original customer service rep, but hopefully this was an educational experience for them about getting to the bottom of their customers concerns in the future. Thanks for taking the time to share the outcome with the rest of us.
 
Thank you for the kind words. We do try to take good care of our customers.

Even though Bark River didn't get in contact with you, we were in contact with them the whole way through and they were happy that it was resolved. If I had not resolved it, they would have.

I am glad you are gifting the knife. It is a great little knife.

Derrick
 
Good news. It would have been nice if they'd taken your knife back if only to determine whether it actually was 20CV.
 
Good news. It would have been nice if they'd taken your knife back if only to determine whether it actually was 20CV.

Agreed. I would really like to know the answer to this question. It would seriously make me hesitate if I was thinking about getting one of their products.
 
Thank you for the kind words. We do try to take good care of our customers.

Even though Bark River didn't get in contact with you, we were in contact with them the whole way through and they were happy that it was resolved. If I had not resolved it, they would have.

I am glad you are gifting the knife. It is a great little knife.

Derrick

Thank you for clarifying. I believe that was the best course of action.
I'm sure the knife will be enjoyed by its future owner.


madcap, they had a few more from the same run in inventory, I'm sure someone can run tests on those if necessary. But again, the purpose of this thread is simply to be a positive endorsement of KSF. I'd like to turn the page on the rest.
 
Thank you for the kind words. We do try to take good care of our customers.

Even though Bark River didn't get in contact with you, we were in contact with them the whole way through and they were happy that it was resolved. If I had not resolved it, they would have.

I am glad you are gifting the knife. It is a great little knife.

Derrick

Thank Derrick, this is excellent.
 
Kudos to KSF and ForgedMaple. While integrity is best revealed when no one is looking, there's plenty to be learned when many are looking as well.
 
yep, ksf is a top notch quality dealer. always did me right.

glad to see it closed and solved. really well done handling by Derrick and crew.
 
Well done Derrick and Crew--as expected! And well done ForgedMaple... you set a great example here.
 
KSF is one of the best dealers IMO. It is because of service like this that they get a lot of my business.
 
I'm sure this would have been taken care of quicker had Derrick not been on a plane when SHTF. The curse of being a small business owner: you never want to take a trip, vacation, or a day off.

Glad it worked out.
 
I found my way here because I have been researching hunting knifes. I have been using the same two since the seventies. Thought I might try some modern steels. Maybe not such a good idea? If I do it won't be with any company involved in this fiasco or any one that carries that brand.
Not that they care because I am sure they don't. Who would when it should be the last hunting knife I buy?

Just my two cents.
 
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