Knots you must know in survival situations

Anybody know off hand what the knot butchers use for tying roasts is called? The only I can do well, but certainly handy.
 
Hey thats looks about right, I though it may have been a buntline. Its weird when you do something too many times you nolonger know how.
 
DeadeyeLefty said:
While we're on the subject, I used to know how to tie a bowline onehanded around my waist, but I'm not sure where in my head I filed that tidbit. Anyone know offhand what it's actually called or where I can find a walkthrough ?
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Hope this is clear enough.

Doc

Found an animated version for you.
 
The difficulty for me about knots is to get the french/english translation of the knots names. But here's is my humble contribution:

All the prussik knots. It's important to know different prussiks cause somes are more or less efficient according to the kind of ropes you use and to the weather conditions.

The figure 9 knot which is a modified fig.8 knot.
http://grimp77.free.fr/neuf.htm.
For a given maximum load a rope can take, a fig.8 knot will take 55% of this load. The fig.9 will take 70% of the load. The fig.8 is very good, the fig.9 is excellent.

dantzk.
 
The Outdoor Knots Book by Soles is a great reference, has a section on rope types and construction and a table of common knot strengths. It only has the basic knots, no fancy monkey fists etc. so it's a thin book.
 
When I was in Boy Scouts I had a terrible time trying to remember how to tie the various knots. Poor memory skills... The two knots I use regularly, and therefore the only two I know well, are the square knot and tautline.
 
Bob W said:
When I was in Boy Scouts I had a terrible time trying to remember how to tie the various knots. Poor memory skills...
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The same for me. There are knots i use often, no issue with them, but there are the knots which i need rarely and which i wouldn't remember. That's why i've drawn on a small notebook about 50 useful specific knots. Drawing a knot is a good exercise of understanding of the way a knot is made. Many knots have common points which help to remember them. Somes books are very well made, but generally there are knots which miss and others which are useless (at least for me). So i've made mine which can't be compared to the knots bible: the Clifford W.Ashley book but which is lighter.

dantzk.
 
misanthropist and Doc, thanks ! That link is exactly what I was looking for. Austin, sorry if that was a hijack.
 
AustinTXShooter said:
That is what I have heard. Not too many mountains or sail boats around where I live though. I have done quite a bit of mountain climbing, but it has always been a situation where the ropes were tied and untied by the climbing staff so I never had to learn any of them.
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Next time make sure the guides teach you while guiding. You don't need too many knots for climbing but the ones you do use are really important. Isn't there some climbing near Austin? Also some right downtown by the river?
Bill
 
billym said:
Next time make sure the guides teach you while guiding. You don't need too many knots for climbing but the ones you do use are really important. Isn't there some climbing near Austin? Also some right downtown by the river?
Bill
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There are a few climbing places in Austin (one on the UT campus that I know of), but I have never been a big fan of the indoor gyms. I did a little climbing in Skagway, Alaska this summer so I have gotten my mountain climbing fix in for a while. Next time I go though, I will make sure to bug the guides until they teach me the knots.
 
It isn't really a knot I guess, but being able to splice 3 strand laid rope is a handy skill to have. joe
 
Most of what I use has already been mentioned.

Bowline,
Taut-line hitch,
Sheet bend,
Hunters bend / Zepplin bend,
Constrictor knot
Hauliers hitch

Three knots that I use a lot and that don't seem to be mentioned here are the Evenk figure eight, the falconers knot, and a tensioning knot. The Evenk knot shown here has, in my opinion, been tied incorrectly, it needs to be tightened up fully before being run up to the tree, otherwise it opens up a little as shown in the picture, which can lead to it upsetting.

I still use the tensioning knot shown, along with one that Mors Kochanski demoed, which is like a simple trucker's hitch for use in putting up ridge lines.

http://www.outdooridiots.com/features/200606/pitchingatarp/pitchingatarp4.asp
 
i would concur with a lot said here,

square not, the ready square not ( looks like half a bow knot), bowline, fig 8, prussik, clove hitch, trucker hitch, and the bimimini twist. The waterknot is great if you do not plan to untie it, or are working with nylon webbing.
 
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