Kukri for outdoor activities?

The Alexander the Great hypothesis has been around a long time. No one can really point to a smoking gun, so the evolution of the Nepali khuk can be thought of something that came about through convergence and not lineage.

The khukuri as we know it didn't really start to form it's shape until about the 16th century. Most feel that it is derivative of Indian designs that were not related to the Kopis either.

When you get down to it, there are only so many ways to shape a blade. Given the terrain of Nepal and the proximity of Indian culture, it's not unreasonable to simply assume that the blade came about as a product of it's environment without needing to be "brought" there.
 
Damn I love BF. You folks are awesome! Thanks for all the great replies, and the photos are fantastic!

I should have said the blade I'm considering is Kukri-like or Kukri-adjacent. I know Tops took the traditional shape and made it more.....tactical? More specialized for bushcraft and such.

Keep the input coming; I'm loving it!
 
The Kopis in South Asia dates to Alexander ~ 350 BC. . . . .But I think that sword form goes back as far as classical Greece in the 500s BC.
 
Damn I love BF. You folks are awesome! Thanks for all the great replies, and the photos are fantastic!

I should have said the blade I'm considering is Kukri-like or Kukri-adjacent. I know Tops took the traditional shape and made it more.....tactical? More specialized for bushcraft and such.

Keep the input coming; I'm loving it!
TOPS has some awesome designs, but in my opinion this kukri-like knife isn’t one of their better ones. There are many “tactical” design features on it which do not blend in harmoniously. The knife is a little short for the amount of recurve, the ramp is useless for a true kukri and the handle is too sculpted, limiting the range of grips. What’s with the metal extension at the end of the handle? Is it a fighting feature or a lanyard hole place? Its position is poor, during a snap chop it can dig into one’s palm.
If money is not an issue, I would rather buy a BK21 Becker/Reinhardt kukri or a Himalayan Import 16-20” overall length sirupate, a 16” AK or something similar from Kailash blades.
I like the traditional kukri handles, but if you prefer Western style synthetic handles, your best bet is the Becker or some of the Kailash ones. I would pick either one over the TOPS, or other modern renditions.
I personally have Himalayan Import kukuris and I like them very much. They are usually overbuilt, more of an outdoors tool than a true weapon, but you won’t convince a LEO regarding this, because they can be indeed used very efficiently as weapons too, if you have the proper arm strength and pick up a lighter, slimmer model like the sirupate or the British Service (BS) model.
Whatever you choose, you will get a very useful outdoors tool for sure.
 
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I would just rate that Tops knife as Kukri-ish.

If you want to use one get it here as already suggested.

Danke42, I agree.
I call these type of knives kukri-like objects. This is my very biased opinion, because I am very partial to the traditional (classic?) kukri shape.
I also think a kukri should be at least 15-16” long overall. I have a 12” kukri, but I find it smallish.
My ideal kukri would be the Bhojpurri model. HI import offered it in the past a few times, but to my great regret, I always missed the sales. I have seen it amongst the Kailash models, but now I don’t have the funds to get one any more.
For outdoors, I think, nothing beats a HI 16-18” AK or a 18-20” sirupate. Add a Mora, maybe a small saw, and you have most of your bases covered pretty well.
 
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This is by far, the most useful "camp" knife I have ever used.

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I would consider this a Khukuri-like object, considering the offset angle.

Here is a quick review I recently posted, if anyone is interested:

 
The Kopis in South Asia dates to Alexander ~ 350 BC. . . . .But I think that sword form goes back as far as classical Greece in the 500s BC.
Sword form yes, but short of there being some documentation that Alexander influenced it, it is conjecture. Some seem to think that the Mallas more likely influenced the design when they settled in the area around the 12th century CE. However, there is no direct evidence. It is simply more likely that Indian designs were far more likely to be adopted by people who share a similar culture rather than brought in by the greeks, but that is not saying that the greeks couldn't have influenced the Indians who influenced the Nepalis, but they are centuries apart.

Khukuris have traditionally been known as an agricultural tool first and foremost. There martial prowess really only came into being when needed, and their effectiveness largely has to do with the fact that most Nepali people start swinging them to do all manner of work from the time they are a toddler. It's amazing to watch these people do everything from cleaning meat to chopping wood with one sometimes very fragile knife with a burned in partial tang held together by wood and glue, but they know EXACTLY how hard to swing it without breaking it, and arguments have been known to be settled via a lost ear where an unfamiliar user would cleave the blade through the collar bone. It's all about them knowing what the knife will do.

The overbuilt versions we see are largely those that were made for 19th and 20th century wartime when the Gorkas/Gurkas were famously conscripted into the British services. Even then, many used the issues one for dress and brought their own from home for actual use in their field. What's even more amazing is that according to the founder of Himalayan Imports, the "training" they received with their knives were just a series of neck/belly/thigh cuts. They were basically expected to know how to use their knife.

So it is unlikely that a farming implement was derived from a martial weapon. The Kopis is mostly seen used in mounted combat or in combination with a shield. They khukuri has not been traditionally uses this way being that it is used mostly by infantry, and it is unclear that someone would look at a blade used on horseback and decide to adapt it into a utility role.

The Kopis and the Falcata are more likely to be related due to their closer geographic proximity, blade shape, and time period. Even then, most historians do not feel that the Falcata (or whatever it was actually called back then) was actually directly derived from the Kopis and may simply have a common ancestor or simply evolved along similar paths due to martial tactics and technology. The greeks used the Kopis to great effect, and no one wanted to face down the Iberians cleaving shields in half.

Still, I'm not convinced that the Kopis is the direct influence of the khukuri.
 
Yeah . . .my first post on this thread implied that the Kopis-Kukri connection was conjecture. The dates I cited above were for the Kopis only.
 
Nothing wrong with packing a kurki for outdoor adventures. Seems like a good choice for several chores.
 
Just wondering if any of you folks who spend some time in the woods camping and doing bushcraft stuff ever bring a kukri along for the ride. The fellow who won season 1 of Alone was rocking one for his primary cutting tool and while at first it caught me off guard, he seemed to make it work quite well.

I've already got a fleet of fixed blades but the more I think about the curvature of that kukri, the more I dig it. I'd love to get some input from those with hands on experience. Cheers!
Heck yeah ! Best get two in case of zombies and stuff : :eek:
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Had this one come in last week. Holy hell, what a kukri. One solid piece of 3V steel and remarkably sharp and robust. It came out exactly at $400, way less than the MSRP but still expensive. But for the amount of 3V steel you are getting, I consider it a bargain. 12” blade, 9.5 ounces.


 
My first khukuri like object/non traditional was a Cold Steel Gurka Lite 20+ years ago. I think it was like 3/16 thick and made of Carbon V. It cut like crazy. Not traditional, but it certainly got me interested in them.

The 3v versions look promising.
 
I picked up a 3V Kukri Plus recently. I like it.

Last weekend, I hacked apart a 100 gal water tank and chopped down invasive tallow trees for several hours and it still popped hairs afterwards.

The only imperfection I think that some people might not like about it is that the primary grind is overground by .2 mm where it starts on one side of the spine. I’ve noticed this on my Natchez as well.

If I was a collector, or I paid the full $764 for it, I might’ve been upset. But since I’m a goon that hacks up old plastic drums on the weekends, and I only paid $403.86, I’m gonna give it a thumbs up.

 
The Kopis in South Asia dates to Alexander ~ 350 BC. . . . .But I think that sword form goes back as far as classical Greece in the 500s BC.
The origins of the Kopis are probably in the ancient Thracians occupying Balkans, Macedonia, what it's today's Rumania and part of North Turkey alone with the Greeks occupying mostly their current territories.
They had a longer sword, on a longer handle, don't remember the name of it, but used Kopis type of short sword for close combat.
Greeks used to use/hire tribal Thracians for militia services in large cities and they had Kopis type short weapons with them. Macedonians and Thracians were
essentially same tribal cultures, occupying relatively same large area of the Balkans. Thracians were assimilated alone with the Slavic tribes by the Bulgars, who established the Bulgarian country in 681 BC and dominated the region and Byzantium (Greece) for a long time. The Classic Ottoman Yatagan is considered to be heavily influenced by the Kopis, but modified to be lighter and longer weapon.
 
I have an Ontario Kukri. You can get them for fifty bucks most places. It is heavy enough to do the work, but light enough to carry with you. It has a beefy handle which I like because of my big hands. It is balanced well, it indexes well, and it will last forever like other Ontario products. They do a great heat treat on their blades and it is easy to use then bring back the edge. The nylon sheath is not the greatest, but it works, and isnt the thin flimsy crap you get with most "beater" knives. The Ontario is a great knife at an affordable price that you can pick up and try out for a while to see if the kukri is right for you. I believe it weighs in at just 18oz and has an 11.75 inch blade, but dont quote me on that. Ill throw a pic of it here. Good luck brother!
 
the ontario kukri uses 1095 steel, which isn't bad, but ideally you want something closer to 1075 for toughness... (80crv2 ideally imho)
also, the handle really isn't a kuk handle, I've read many people complain about it & often make their own scales closer to the the traditional shape

the price is actually quite low, ~ 50
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I love kukris but unfortunately the only one I got is a CRKT KUK with the Chinese 65Mn steel.
It should be close to 1065-95 carbon steels and I think it's done well because I used it heavily to destroy
a 10'X12' deck behind the house, done with some PT wood, being there for over 10 years and it did
very well with the hard wood. After chopping trough those 2X4s it did retain decent working edge,
I'm happy with it, even it is inexpensive.

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