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Sorry for the confusion, it's two styles of Dui Chirra that I'm talking about. One I call "Foxy Folly style," and the other "Tin Chirra style."

Here is mine, "Tin Chirra style" because it looks like it could have a third fuller, but really that part by the edge is flat and thick.



Compare to the one you linked to, "Foxy Folly style," scored by LaRueOBR556. Here's a similar pic from his unboxing.



And a link to that thread
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1350011-Proof-Yangdu-has-a-time-machine!!!

Those are both Dui Chirras by Thamar, but the placement of the fullers is quite different, which is why I started calling them by those two style distinctions.

As far as I know, the Foxy Folly is a specific model which was first requested/designed by a forum member. I read the thread one time. I wanna say his screen name was Fox-something, and the original name was Fox's Folly, but it kinda morphed over time. It only comes in one style: awesome, but it does come in different sizes. Largest I've seen was 18" but there's gotta be a bigger one, and the smallest are around 9". They're every bit as awesome as the big ones, but nearly 4 times as cute
 
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Oh, that's my misunderstanding - no need to apologize :)

How does the FF compare to the "X" Chirra style?
 
Main thing is that it's lighter and has more belly, but the balance and feel are completely different. I'll refer to the "only one" thread for a side by side comparison in pics. That thick section of steel on my DC brings the weight farther out towards the tip and gives a more obtuse edge angle, which both aid in brute chopping ability. One inch from the tip of the DC, the spine is thicker than anywhere on my Foxy. The Thamar feels very tip-heavy, while the FF feels nimble and light by comparison. It still feels heavier and more tip-heavy than an ounce-per-inch KLVUK though.

Because it is light and the spine is thin, I'd always assumed my Foxy would not be a great chopper. That is until I compared the edge profile to my Keshars and Tamang. I found that both KLVUKs and the Tamang have relatively wide edges, which yield a very acute edge angle. The FF on the other hand, though thinner all around, has a narrower edge, resulting in a more obtuse angle. I had only been considering curvature, weight, length, and balance before, but after that experience with the Tamang, I believe the combination of attributes that the Foxy Folly possesses will outperform both KLVUK and Tamang, and offer similar attributes to the DC. However it will have reduced weight and hopefully be even more comfortable to use all day, due to its balance.

So basically, they're similar but very different. Both have advantages and disadvantages, just like any other khuks.

And keep in mind I'm only talking about a Dui Chirra here, because I personally haven't used a Yek or Tin Chirra, yet. I'd imagine the Yek would slightly outchop the Dui, and the Tin would be slightly more balanced/light in hand. All of them have that traditional multifullered look though.

It's important to remember that any khuk you get, whether KLVUK, M-43, Dui Chirra, or Foxy Folly, will not only preform the tasks you need done, but far exceed your original expectations.

For the record, my first order was a 15" BAS by Kumar and a Baby Villager CAK by Dhan
 
My first was an 18" M-43. I love it! However, it wasn't first for long. It arrived with a 16-1/2" CAK and a 17-1/2" TC that I added before it enen shipped. At the time my intent was to have all the bases covered. Little did I know......
 
No, please don't think that the text bothered or offended me. Please don't change how you want things on my account. Like I said, it was supposed to be a humorous observation. I was laughing a little while I typed it. You may return to your normally specified font size, good sir!

Bawanna: that almost made me spit my beer on my computer.

Back on topic. Do any of you find the curved handles on the Dui Chirras or Follies to be advantageous the the straighter handles of other models?

Chain_Whip: Whatever you decide to get, I recommend getting a KLVUK to go with it. They don't cost much (relatively speaking) and they aren't as "pretty" but they feel great. I've already used mine and I'm absolutely in love. It doesn't have as much raw chopping power as the CAK, but it will handle the small AND the large, whereas the CAK is just to heavy for brush (in my opinion).
 
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The curved handle makes it more ergonomic to hold while chopping. You don't have to "crank" your wrist as far forward to bring the blade down. It helps to over exaggerate it. Imagine a perfectly straight handle and blade versus a handle at 90° to the blade. You have to bend your wrist all the way down, 90°, to get the blade from vertical to horizontal with a straight handle. With the handle at a right angle, the blade would already be horizontal just holding out your arm and making a fist. In that example you actually need to bend your wrist backwards to list the blade. Try doing a khukuri chopping motion with a ruler then a curved piece of pipe or something with a heavy curve. Hope that makes size.

To me, the more curved the handle and blade overall, the more instinctively I use proper technique. Not totally sure why. I think the more forward I have to flick my wrist, the more likely I am to use my elbow and arm and try to grasp the blade statically. When the blade is already right how it needs to be, my hand just wants to lift and let the blade fall with a little flick at the end. It's almost like the less you try to put power into your swing, the easier the cutting gets and the more the blade works for you.

I'm no khuk master, only had HI blades for about 6 months, so the proper technique is not yet instinctual. I still have to think about my swing or I find myself hacking away gripping tight and swinging the khuk like a machete or hatchet.

Jackal, if you have a CAK and KLVUK, I highly recommend making your next blade something with a really heavy curve to both blade and handle. You'd have experience with most of the variations in feel that way. You have a light and short one with medium curve, and a nice beefy chopper, time for something with mid weight, heavy curve, and some nice fullers!!
 
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Bookie said:
Thank you for the reply. No offense was taken. I asked because it's not my intention of angering or offending anyone. Is this more gooder now?
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Bac Si, No way you could get gooder than you are already. "Keep Calm and Carry On" :)
 
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Jackal, if you have a CAK and KLVUK, I highly recommend making your next blade something with a really heavy curve to both blade and handle. You'd have experience with most of the variations in feel that way. You have a light and short one with medium curve, and a nice beefy chopper, time for something with mid weight, heavy curve, and some nice fullers!!
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I've been considering it a lot. I'm torn between that and an 18" Siru, but the KLVUK will do what I would want that for. It would be good to experience something completely different. The FF seems more my speed. I don't think I want anything beefier than the CAK.
 
That's a good way to do it Jackal. I'm pretty sure I don't need anything beefier than my BAS, but I know I'll get a 16-18" AK at some point, just as a real heavy chopper. I do think you're mostly right about a KLVUK handling what a Siru will, in fact, the Keshar will likely do more, just with a bit less reach.

ChainWhip, did you happen to ask Yangdu if she had anything similar to that TC available? I'd be surprised if there wasn't a few YCs, DCs, or TCs floating about somewhere. Perhaps you're more patient than I am :)
 
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That's a good way to do it Jackal. I'm pretty sure I don't need anything beefier than my BAS, but I know I'll get a 16-18" AK at some point, just as a real heavy chopper. I do think you're mostly right about a KLVUK handling what a Siru will, in fact, the Keshar will likely do more, just with a bit less reach.

ChainWhip, did you happen to ask Yangdu if she had anything similar to that TC available? I'd be surprised if there wasn't a few YCs, DCs, or TCs floating about somewhere. Perhaps you're more patient than I am :)
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Trying to be patient :)

I'm not in a huge rush with all the holiday things going on but am willing to bide my time... Though I must admit I am itching to get one of these beauties into my hands.
 
Celebratory pour to go with my first Khukuri (Baby Foxy Folly by Purna)!

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Since we're in the Cantina - is there a drinking thread somewhere? Can't seem to find one via my mobile... We got firearms & blades here - just missing the booze.

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Aww lad, love to imbibe of a wee dram or two of that with ya. Never heard of it, probably couldn't afford it but it does look mighty tasty. Strictly for medicinal purposes mind ya.
I'm relegated to the cheap stuff and that not often but a taste now and then to keep the taste buds alive.
 
Cheers indeed BB :)

I'm not that far from ya Bawanna - if we ever synch up, I'll bring over a bottle or three to share.
 
ChainWhip said:
Cheers indeed BB :)

I'm not that far from ya Bawanna - if we ever synch up, I'll bring over a bottle or three to share.
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Single malt:eek: Im gettin a posse together now! Gimme a few weeks. I never heard of that stuff either but sure sounds gold to me!
 
ndoghouse said:
Single malt:eek: Im gettin a posse together now! Gimme a few weeks. I never heard of that stuff either but sure sounds gold to me!
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Given the history of the Gurkha and the Khukuri in relation to the UK, single malt seemed an appropriate pour.

:)
 
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