Kukri or combat knife

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DynV

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First I don't need an utility knife, no need to act as a plain machete, if I need the latter I'll go to a hardware store and pick up whatever seems best considering the price. So I need a combat knife. I want to pull something effective out if someone pulls out a knife or a bar on me.

So the weapon should be sturdy enough to parry a metal bar but not so much that it need to chop branches or undergrowth. I'm not sure why but the Kukri resonate especially to me. I think it's the curve and thickness on the other side of the blade. I'm open to other weapons if you think it would suit well the threats I mentioned and perhaps ones I should have thought of.

Please don't suggest to me something too heavy, I want to carry it on me. If it's too heavy I'll just put it in my backpack which would unlikely to be accessed in time for my needs ; if I'm on my bicycle and someone get out of his (unlikely to be a women) vehicle in a road-rage, I need to act quickly.

Thank you kindly
 
I'd ask a mod to move this to prac tac if I were you. It will get less ugly there.
Answer you will receive from almost everyone: Get a gun if your serious about defending yourself.
 
Mod, please do as the previous posted suggested if you think I'll get better help.

Also I welcome them to come here and try it. It's 1 year minimum if they get caught with it
s. 95.(1) Everyone who commits an offence (possession of a loaded prohibited or restricted firearm and/or readily accessible ammunition)

a. is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 10 years and to a minimum punishment of imprisonment for a term of
1. in the case of a first offence, three years, and
2. in the case of a second offence or subsequent offence, five years; or
b. is guilty of an offence punishable on a summary conviction and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding one year.
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Firesarms and Weapons Offenses
I assume that's if it's unloaded and 3 years if loaded. And as one can see, handguns are restricted: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Canada#Restricted_firearms
 
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Honestly, the guy who pulls out a "metal bar" will probably win, especially if it is longer.

A big kukri may scare him before confrontation occurs I would say. I guess I need to read up on Canada, I assumed pulling out a kukri in the middle of a busy road would get you in trouble.
 
I don't think I'd using anything beyond 18" ; 15" or less if possible. A reminder that the weapon need to parry a metal bar, usually a crowbar or something found in a car spare tire kit.
 
DynV said:
I don't think I'd using anything beyond 18" ; 15" or less if possible. A reminder that the weapon need to parry a metal bar, usually a crowbar or something found in a car spare tire kit.
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What if the perp is using a baseball bat?
 
"usually a crowbar"

Huh?


I never realized Montreal was so rough.


What if the perp was a pole vaulter, or a tightrope walker..

Kukri carry... on bicycle?...

Small staff/cane, collapsible baton..maybe
 
I do think a collapsible baton would be better for bike riding.

I'm really just picturing a guy in a Jeep jumping out yelling at the top of his lungs, coming toward you as you pull out a giant fixed blade. It's a pretty surreal scenario dude.
 
Also just in case you haven't thought of it yet, trying to parry a crowbar swung with force against your blade is gonna cause one heck of a vibration down your entire arm, hopefully without knocking the blade out of your hand (or back into you). Use caution.
 
1st and foremost, I never wrote something alike
Ickythump said:
Montreal was so rough
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and I hope I didn't hint it. Maybe I'm paranoid, maybe I've been especially unlucky, maybe I've been looking for trouble. As show on charts from http://www.macleans.ca/canadas-most-dangerous-cities/
Canada’s most dangerous cities: homicide
[...]
Worst cities (% higher than national average)
1. Prince George, B.C. (486%)
2. Wood Buffalo, Alta (202%)
3. Saskatoon (168%)
4. Thunder Bay, Ont. (163%)
5. Regina (148%)
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Canada’s most dangerous cities: aggravated assault
[...]
Worst cities (% higher than national average)
Saskatoon (258%)
Regina (187%)
Edmonton (185%)
Kamloops, B.C. (156%)
Winnipeg (147%)
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and from http://www.macleans.ca/canadas-most-dangerous-cities-the-rankings/
RANK CITIES PERCENTAGE DIFFERENCE WITH THE NATIONAL CRIME SCORE
[...]
24 Montréal, Que. 28.54
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it's not in http://www.actressshooter.com/2014/11/top-ten-dangerous-cities-canada/
it's not in the summary of http://www.canada.com/news/Photos+Canada+most+dangerous+cities/5865549/story.html
Surrey, British Columbia [...] sixth in violent crime
Winnipeg, Manitoba [...] second in violent crime
Wood Buffalo, Alberta [...] 12th in violent crime
Kelowna, British Columbia [...] 19th in violent crime
Grande Prairie, Alberta [...] 17th in violent crime
Regina, Saskatchewan [...] fifth in violent crime
Red Deer, Alberta [...] 18th in violent crime
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan [...] third in violent crime
Victoria, British Columbia [...] fourth in violent crime
Prince George, British Columbia [...] first in both violent and non-violent crime.
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from the former summary, its violent crime order: Prince George, Winnipeg, Saskatoon, Victoria, Regina, Surrey.
So I hope I cleared the reputation of the city I've spent ~1/2 my life in.

Once in greater Montreal, outside the metropolis, someone rushed in with a pickup and came out with a crowbar yelling ; a good thing I has a skateboard in my hand. The way he backed out I don't think he had any intention of hitting me with it, although he might have tried to kick me or something should I not had the skateboard.

With the weight at the tip, a baseball bat would be much harder to parry. I didn't think of it, good point. I think there's more bars carried in vehicle cabins than bats, simply because bar have everyday use ; for truckers, mechanics, etc.

I think I'd likely try to diffuse any road rage incident, but you never know. You could have feared for your life moments before, or you had a really bad day and he used strong profanities. :\ However I really don't think I'd pull any weapon if none were 1st pulled or the other guy had his hands somewhere suspicious ; although for the latter I'd keep the weapon hidden but still unsheathed.

I intend to keep my hand as tight and as securely as I can on the weapon should I ever use it.

Getting back to Kukri, or Kukri-like weapons, what would be not too heavy but still robust? And of course not too long.
 
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I think he is thinking of a tire iron, not a big ass construction crow bar.
Pepper spray is going to be a better self defense option, 15 or 20 foot stream is a lot longer than the longest blade. If you are looking just for a blade for some reason Id go cheap so something like the cold steel Shanghai Shadow, some of the CS machetes can be had in sword patterns (gladius, falcion, hell even khukris). If you are stuck on a khuk I hear Himalayan Imports make great ones.
 
My vote is for a light saber. Those pesky metal bars wont stand a chance. I hear cold steel is about to come out with a carbon fiber version.
 
Probably not one most are familiar with, but how about a Condor Multi Knife II? I have one (bought for camping/hiking) and it's not long or terribly heavy, but maybe would fit your requirements.

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Frankly, I think you're going to find that considerations about concealment and practical carry method will force you to compromise the defensive capabilities you want. Although I have the benefit of carrying a firearm, none of the knives I carry would be anywhere near the size you're talking about.
 
I think you need to change your tactics. Squaring off with an assailant like sword Fighters is only setting yourself up for random dirty attacks. You have to take initiative. You have to close in like MMA grappling. A crowbar is useless chest to chest. Any 4" knife can end a fight. The kidneys and spin are vulnerable. Even the neck depending on position.
 
Take a look at Cold Steel's Gurkha Kukri Plus

12 inch blade, has a real guard (which most Kukri's don't).

Not too heavy. Made in 01. 5/16 thick, and pretty fast for a Kukri.

Might be too big for what you think, but you are talking about parrying bats and tire irons, etc.

It will take off a leg, arm, or head with a single swing, and stab front to back, side to side, piercing any organs, and splitting any ribs in the way.

I always laugh that you can't have a thread on a knife forum without some one jumping in saying you should carry a gun, even if it will get you a long prison sentence.


Honestly, I can't think of how you would explain a kukri to an officer!

I guess if you could convince him you were out clearing bike trails!
 
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Bigfattyt said:
Take a look at Cold Steel's royal Khukri.

12 inch blade, has a real guard (which most Khukri's don't).

Not too heavy. Made in 01. 5/16 thick, and pretty fast for a Khukri.

Might be too big for what you think, but you are talking about parrying bats and tire irons, etc.

It will take off a leg, arm, or head with a single swing, and stab front to back, side to side, piercing any organs, and splitting any ribs in the way.

I always laugh that you can't have a thread on a knife forum without some one jumping in saying you should carry a gun, even if it will get you a long prison sentence.


Honestly, I can't think of how you would explain a khukri to an officer!

I guess if you could convince him you were out clearing bike trails!
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I wouldn't suggest a gun since I don't carry, myself--though many family members do--and this is a knife forum, after all.

That said, like you say, I can't see explaining a kuk to a copper either, so it's hard for me to suggest a big darn knife. I'd open carry a fixed blade all the time if I could, but for better or worse, we rarely live in an environment that allows that.

I'm of two minds. On the one hand, using a knife isn't rocket science. Pointy end goes into the other bloke, right?

On the other hand, I think many people--often myself included--are blind to the cold reality of this stuff. I recently saw some videos of street shank fights (I realize any type of street fight will have a chance to be more brutal than usual by nature) and it was all very, very ugly. One guy kinda, sorta "won," but you wouldn't know it by looking at him. I harbor no illusions that if I was every in such an unfortunate scenario I'd come out of that looking as pleasantly average as I do now. Maybe a few extra scars if I'm lucky.
 
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