Kuraki on FiF, anyone else watch last night?

I am guessing that most are used to straightening during tempering (my preferred method), so don't have the experience with post quench straightening. It is not like post quench straightening is risk free.

I imagine many of the participants are used to heat treating known steel with thermal cycling and PID controlled ovens prior to quench in a engineered and known quenchant. Under those conditions, warps that are hard to address in tempering are uncommon. The other issue with post quench straightening is that where your window starts and stops is kind of dependant on knowing your quenchant/steel combo. Otherwise, you may hold the blade in the quench past the point of plasticity. So, I get why it isn't more common, but it may be good to practice prior to going on FIF as it doesn't seem that they let you correct issues in the temper.

On a different note, this was one of the more irritating final challenges that I have seen. The knives themselves were a terrible design (not the participants design, I mean a stupid thing with finger breaking holes and claws and crap) all things considered. Further, the strength test was abusive in a ridiculous way. The participants could have made different design decisions to make the tips of their knives into pry bars, but doing so would have made them definitely worse at stabbing people. The claws on this ridiculous knife are utterly worthless as you remove the advantage of reach that the blade and if you were to use them, they are not long enough to practically cause any incapacitating damage. As a fighting knife, this thing was crap, and to pass the strength test without bend or break would require a redesign that would make it even worse.

There is less stress straightening after the quench than during tempering. Complete transformations don’t happen for several minutes after the quench allowing plenty of time to straighten, most makers have trouble getting things straight.

Steels continue to move months after the quench and temper, usually it can’t be seen. Laminated blades are the worst because the different steels move at different rates.

Hoss
 
I have often wondered that also Hoss? & why many don't straighten a warp right out of the quench?

If I could do it over I would clean my can out and leave it on while I forged. As for Josh's warp in particular, I believe it warped as it cooled. I don't think it was terrible coming right out. I got lucky in that respect, mine warped just a touch at the tang, and was otherwise straight.
 
Sometimes a blade will be straight-ish out of the quench and warp during the temper. Just a thought... The FIF smiths don't have control over the tempering process.
 
That was a tough episode. You gave a hell of a go of it John. Might have been the first time I seen a to long blade.
The final challenge was interesting, the tiger claws seem about a useless addition and awkward to use.
 
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That picture is great. You have a neat sense of humor. It seems like some really good bladesmiths have been dismissed because of some technicality. You are not the first.
I looked at your Instagram page. You make some really beautiful knives. I also like the picture that says, "Meanwhile back in Wisconsin" and shows a snow scene from Star Wars.
 
Anyone who has the grit to try the competition on FIF should be applauded. The show often gives the smiths terrible materials to work with and time constraints must make it a nervous and panicky ride for the smiths. You should be proud of yourself for competing. Larry
 
After seeing this thread, but not reading it, I made it a point to watch this episode tonight. Good showing Kuraki, I was rooting for you.

It's a tall order to go on FiF! Well Done

-Clint
 
Just watched the episode. I'm not sure I completely agree with eliminating someone first round, based on being "too long". That's pretty easily correctable in the second round with a belt grinder and/or an angle grinder. IIRC, they let at least one contestant through on one of the last episodes, who ended up missing length and width requirements twice (of course, the second time got him eliminated).
Who knows, maybe they're planning on a redemption round for people who didn't make parameters... ;)
 
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