Kurt Osiander Bowie

David Stifle said:
Are you sure this is how you want to respond to a gentle critique?
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You haven't been involved in my dialog with Lorien through pm so you have no clue about the position of his comments. Based on your response I know you were trying to take a position on my response without even understanding or knowing the details of my and Lorien communication on this forum. I find that amusing considering that such a fine gentleman as yourself would start jumping to conclusion s
 
Cajun Kamikaze said:
I'm working on a design now called the Lorien. Wait till you see how weird it is. Having a hard time with figuring out how to make a knife without a spine.
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Not to be a wise-acre but I think a double-edged dagger doesn't have a spine, especially if it has a central fuller, so the Lorien could be a wicked dagger with a fuller! :thumbup:
 
There I go. Learning all the time. Hopefully it is a wicked dagger I was just thinking I need to try my hand at a fuller just yesterday. Maybe it's not coincidence. ;-) double thumbs up on that
 
Cajun Kamikaze said:
You haven't been involved in my dialog with Lorien through pm so you have no clue about the position of his comments.
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I don't recall having any dialogue that amounted to more than what you're being called out for here.

That being said, it doesn't reflect well on this forum when posters, especially knife makers, reply to a mild critique of a knife they made- regardless of past history- with personal insults. We all try and nurture an environment that encourages critical engagement, for the betterment of all- makers, collectors and other interested parties the world over. The kind of thing you're doing here has no place in this particular forum. Perhaps W&C would be a more appropriate choice.

Sam, however, is a mad genius!
 
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Cajun Kamikaze said:
You haven't been involved in my dialog with Lorien through pm so you have no clue about the position of his comments. Based on your response I know you were trying to take a position on my response without even understanding or knowing the details of my and Lorien communication on this forum. I find that amusing considering that such a fine gentleman as yourself would start jumping to conclusion s
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I simply asked a question, you could have answered it in a variety of ways and with a good attitude. Far as I'm concerned, my conversation with you is over. thanks...
 
You've got elements of Shiva Ki all over this one.
Thanks for sharing.

Doug
 
Saying it was "weird looking" was a weird thing to say considering there is nothing weird about that knife.


Definitly Shiva ki influenced :thumbup:
 
Lorien said:
kind of a weird looking knife, seems like there's a little too much going on. But if your customer is happy, that's what matters :)
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AVigil said:
Saying it was "weird looking" was a weird thing to say considering there is nothing weird about that knife.


Definitly Shiva ki influenced :thumbup:
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I have to agree Adam, new maker, first critique. :rolleyes:
What did you find "weird", give your critique if you would be so kind, Lorien.


Shiva Ki makes great knives in my experience. :thumbup:
Love the overall profile on his Spirit blades.

Doug
ps: Not my first Shiva Ki rodeo. ;)

CK, Keep learning and progressing. :)
 
I agree that just calling the blade "weird looking", without any sort of actual "critique" to go along with the comment, could come off as more of an insult, even if that wasn't your intent. I don't have anything against you at all Lorien, you seem to be a genuinly nice guy from what I've read over the years on the forum, so please don't take this as an attack towards you in any way. :thumbup: :)

I'm just saying I can understand him gettin upset after putting so much work and time into this knife only to have it called "weird", especially since he's a relatively newer maker.

ETA: Just wanted to add that as far as any of the proceding comments go, I have no comment. :D
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Anyway, I really like the boldness of the hamon you achieved on this blade, looks very cool! OAL it turned out very nicely IMHO.

I think that when most people say they have a difficult time achieving hamon with 1084, they're probably so used to working with shallow hardening steels (1095, W2 etc.) where only a very thin layer of clay (~1/16" max) and maybe some very small ashi lines can go a long way to get a very active hamon, while only sort of influencing it's outcome.

Just as you show in you WIP picture where the blade is all clayed up, the "trick" that I've learned for getting a bold hamon with 1084 is to do just that, apply a pretty thick layer of clay in a wavy line, (which will heavily influence the shape of the hamon) as well as to quench the blade as soon as the edge comes up to critial, without soaking the entire blade long enough for the mass of the clay and spine to come up to equal temp. I kind of think 1084 hamon(s) as being more of a "wavy quench line" than a hamon, not because all hamon(s) are supposed to have a lot of wild activity, but since that's how 1084 seems to act due to the extra bit of manganese, causing it to be a bit more deep hardening, if that even makes sense. lol

Thanks for sharing man. :)

~Paul
My YT Channel Lsubslimed
... (It's been quite a while since I've posted any new vids)
 
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My critique is there for all to see; "there's a little too much going on". That's what makes this knife look weird to me.

I could go into detail as to what "there's a little too much going on" means, and would have been happy to if I was asked by the guy who made it, but he chose another route. The maker obviously doesn't desire my feedback, most likely due to prior history. This is too bad since that was what I was partly attempting to overcome here in order to stimulate a dialogue that could potentially assist him down the road.

There is plenty of room for improvement here, which is plain to see. By withholding critical suggestions and simply patting him on the back, we are offering next to no value to his education.

No matter the comment on a knife, there is no excuse for belittling and insulting a person's character in response. Knives are things, people are people.
 
Lycosa said:
I like this knife but... I'd rework the skull bopper.
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I was pondering it. I was thinking about tapering the but toward the bottom a bit to get more of a tear drop shape looking at it from the back and then a bit more flare on that lip. What were you thinking?

and thanks for the explanation Paul.

Doug, you know I'll just keep on just chuggn along doing the best I can. Thanks

Lorien, weather you give "critical suggestions," or not, matters little to none, I'm sure Shiva can handle it. For some reason I feel his true critique might just hold a bit more weight than your fake ass critique... Possibly.
 
for the record, I didn't give you any suggestions. If I did, I agree that they wouldn't matter; you're going to do what you're going to do, and that doesn't matter to me either. So let's call that a wash.

Also, my critique wasn't 'fake ass'; I meant what I said and could have elaborated if I had the time and felt it was worthwhile. You obviously don't agree with the premise, it may not carry any weight with you, and that's fair enough.

But if it doesn't matter to you, why act so childish? Why go out of your way to insult me? How does that help you or anyone else here?

I like seeing knife makers succeed, and I like to help where and when I can in that regard, and even after this, I would like to see you succeed. So now I will make a critical suggestion; curb that prideful obstinance, embrace humility and seek to achieve education and feedback from others. It's sometimes hard to take, but always worthwhile :)
 
I am not qualified to critique…….but I do know what is pleasing to my eye and what is not.

It looks to me like the guard was picked before is was quite ripe. Too small for the rest of the dimensions of the knife, it also looks like the guard could use a little more refinement and polish. Those square looking sides could use a little softening. If I were to be the buyer these things would have to be addressed, but I'm not so there you are. I also am not appreciative of anything resembling a skull crusher. To me they nearly always….no ALWAYS detract from the flow of the design.

What I have written is what I like and if it influences you one way or the other then good. I certainly don't have the talent to do what you have done the way you did it.

Paul
 
CK- Thanks for asking but you know better than me but... I'd just round that crusher a little more... less pointy.
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sheathmaker said:
I am not qualified to critique…….but I do know what is pleasing to my eye and what is not.

It looks to me like the guard was picked before is was quite ripe. Too small for the rest of the dimensions of the knife, it also looks like the guard could use a little more refinement and polish. Those square looking sides could use a little softening. If I were to be the buyer these things would have to be addressed, but I'm not so there you are. I also am not appreciative of anything resembling a skull crusher. To me they nearly always….no ALWAYS detract from the flow of the design.

What I have written is what I like and if it influences you one way or the other then good. I certainly don't have the talent to do what you have done the way you did it.

Paul
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I think in this statement you proved to me you are more than qualified. I'll tell you why.

You are spot on with all of you remarks and they align with same thoughts I've had regarding the piece. I've only worked with Damascus 1 other time and just don't know how to finish it well, yet. I was thinking I needed to sand more and etch again for better results. Was also wondering if the dimension of the guard worked with the blade being it was small, but I grew to like it and after fit up decided it was the style I wanted. If you handled the blade I think you may understand. Definitely will soften those edges, That was most certainly on the punch list before I send it off.

Shiva told me to loose the skull crusher so that is what I did and just went with a nice flare. He says simpler is better.
 
I'm not seeing the skull crusher you guys are talking about, I see it in the original drawing, but not on the finished knife itself.. :confused:

Am I missing something here, or was Rolf simply suggesting that you reshape the butt to re-incorporate one into the handle, sorta like how Aaron Gough does on his resolute model by tapering the sides of the ends of the scales to expose the angled tang/butt? Like shown in the pic below.. lol sorry, just curious..

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~Paul
My YT Channel Lsubslimed
... (It's been quite a while since I've posted any new vids)
 
The handle looks nicely shaped with nice symmetrical contouring.

An issue I see is that you ran the swedge grind too far back. If it terminated where the harpoon started it would have looked better.

I can also see horizontal and vertical scratches along the tang. That is something easy that you could still fix up.

Also, cool sheath material :thumbup:
 
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