Kydex????

Both good for different purposes, leather doesn't do well strapped to a kayak or vest or worn when water or moisture is a sure thing for extended periods.

Leather is quiet, elegant, and doesn't scream tactical.

I love climbing waterfalls and being on the river which may include wading, swimming, climbing in water. Spending time wet outdoors kydex all day.

I usually will have both for a knife I really like..

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I can't think of any advantages of a leather sheath over kydex besides the looks. I make my own sheaths and enjoy working with leather much more, but functionally kydex is a much better material for a sheath.
 
Leather looks nicer, and won't scratch your knife.
Kydex can be washed out after your woods excursion (or animal skinning), which is a bonus. :thumbsup:

Benefits to each.
 
Plastic is better in some applications and environments . Leather can be more aesthetically pleasing and less "tactical " looking .

So long as the job gets done , either is fine with me .
 
Both good for different purposes, leather doesn't do well strapped to a kayak or vest or worn when water or moisture is a sure thing for extended periods.

Leather is quiet, elegant, and doesn't scream tactical.

I love climbing waterfalls and being on the river which may include wading, swimming, climbing in water. Spending time wet outdoors kydex all day.

I usually will have both for a knife I really like..

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Is that Leatherman clip sold separately or do you have to cannibalize ?
 
If there were some reasonably priced leather holsters with eyelets so I could switch out hardware for OWB/IWB id be all over it
 
I actually prefer nylon + plastic type sheaths. .

Exact same here. The best sheaths I have ever seen were the old Eagle nylon sheaths that came custom-made for the "200 pre-production" Al Mars: They were specifically made for the individual knife, and used rolled-up rubber or plastic with a "hairy" inside, which really prevented scratching.

But even generic nylon sheaths are better if the rolled plastic is a thick and soft type, with adjustable snaps like on the generic-design sheath for the RTAK-II. The adjustable snaps are the key, as they secure the knife tightly at the guard. Unfortunately, these snaps are typically sewn too far from the sheath "mouth" to ensure this: They often have to be re-sewn lower to really offer a rigid hold against the mouth's opening: I just super glue the snaps lower...

As long as the rolled plastic inserts matches the blade thickness tightly (which is where the broadly moulded Spec Ops brand inserts fall short, forcing you to glue inserts inside, a dicey prospect), having a lot of air around your blade is inherently superior from a rust prevention and, especially, a scratch prevention point of view. That is why I never understood the popularity of kydex: The tight form-fit of an unyielding material is the exact opposite of what you want... I have just one knife with Kydex, the Busse Batttlesaw, and the only reason the Kydex doesn't scratch it all to hell is because of its peculiar corrugated surface (and the rough surface finish from being stripped)...

Nylon sheaths also often have pockets that hugely increase the "carrying ability" of the knife.

Second to nylon is black dyed leather, which I have always found to be far superior in avoiding water deformation compared to brown leather (especially when comparing those two options from Randall: Their black sheaths are almost like plastic in comparison): Brown leather sheaths are essentially sponges that will lose their shape completely at the first serious contact with water, like a mild rain... This is so serious brown sheaths should only be considered for inside the waistband carry to try to keep them out of the rain: That really helps. I have one brown leather sheath that works well this way for my carbon Voorhis, but I kick myself for not knowing enough at the time to order it in black, as it was a Patriot leather custom and I had the choice... It kind or goes well with the carbon steel theme, but at least with 5160 I could Cerakoat the steel against rust.

I know some will chime in with Mink oil, silicon or other similar protection, but anything seriously coating the whole inside of the sheath will leave a huge amount of residue on the blade. Black dye in itself reduces water absorption from within the leather, and most important is the way black leather will not so readily sag when wet like brown leather does. Some black leather is so heavily treated it is literally like soft plastic.

Unfortunately leather is not quite as scratch averse as soft rolled plastic, but both are at their best when the blade has a saber grind surface to "ride" on: The main reason for that is that a saber grind is a "break" in the grinding surface, so you can have the grind striations parallel to the blade friction, something not typically available with a Full Flat Grind blade: In the long run this can make a large difference in the wear appearance from a sheath exposed to dirt and debris.

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Horsewright said it best. Kydex has many good points, but unless I'm in for really nasty weather, I prefer leather sheaths.
 
Leather has soul that kydex simply can not match:

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That being said kydex does shine in some extreme conditions.

That's what I'm talking about David!
 
I do not like to have the knife handle riding above my belt much at all. Most kydex/boltaron sheaths ride too high for me.

I have found kydex to make more noise during hunting season when sticks and briars and stuff hit it. Not a huge deal but it bugs me.

I do appreciate the all weather quality of kydex and it can at times make maintaining carbon steel knives easier. A stainless knife doesn't care about a damp leather sheath but some carbon blades do.

After a bloody hunting trip I can throw a kydex sheath in the washing machine with my hunting clothes and it comes out like new.

Kydex is the only good option for neck knives and inverted carry. I carry a knife inverted hanging from the shoulder strap of my backpack sometimes while backpacking.

I prefer a deep pocket style leather sheath most of the time. If the knife rides deep in the sheath then there is no need to fiddle with retention straps.

I also like nylon sheaths sometimes too.

I guess it all depends on the knife and the application.
 
It seems like setup costs are less for kydex and the learning curve is quicker. There would be some incentive there to sell with kydex.

Sheaths are a tricky situation for makers. We all have different preferences. What do you do? Sell it without a sheath and leave it up to the buyer to source what they want at a cost higher than an included sheath would likely be with more hassle? Sell it with a high quality and expensive leather sheath that raises the package price and makes it harder to market the knife from a value perspective? Sell it with a kydex sheath which adds less cost to the knife and makes a functional package at a reasonable price? Sell it with a cheap nylon sheath that will work but adds very little to the cost and allows the user to either make do or upgrade? I think that unfortunately there is no correct answer that will make the most people happy.

I think that when customers are evaluating value when making purchase decisions that they do not always take the sheath into perspective. This makes it hard for makers to sell/market knives with high quality sheaths.
 
Pros and cons.
One practical advantage is you can wash the Kydex out under the kitchen faucet.
See the drain holes in the various "plastic" sheaths in these photos.
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Down side is if the "plastic" / nylon / what ever has glass fibers mixed into the plastic then it dulls the blade.
They are useable I guess with enough modification . . . ala leather sheath style layering.
The white curved strip is a piece of black hard rubber under that paper layer with adhesive on one side. Peal and stick between the sides of this sheath then drill and through bolt it back together in place of the tubular rivets. I will get around to putting in tubular rivets someday. Knife and sheath on the left in the last photo. A Cold Steel Spike.
This mod protects the knife edge from dulling by the glass fiber "contaminated" sheath material.
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