Recommendation? Laguiole Knife

@kamagong Very true that about the Bee's trajectory. It's an interesting fact that both complex and intricate guillochage work and have their place, depending on the materials and knife. The mind, fortunately, cannot be made up over this :cool:
 
I acquired this one courtesy of Jean-Marc @Âchillepattada. I lean on our European members for their expertise in this area and havent been disappointed. Made by Pierre Yves Joyeux, carbon blade and hazel wood. Excellent file work and fit/finish. No blade rap but I ease it closed too. Updated photos, if you’re only going to have one, this is a good one to have.
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Hello,
It's a pleasure to see it again :)
To my humble opinion Pierre Yves Joyeux offers exceptional Laguioles, made by only himself and very elegant. You can also ask him an hand engraved spring in the old way ( not with a milling machine) which is also rare.

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helobite said:
You should be very happy: the promoters of dull tips and dull edges claim edge and tip contact with the mainspring is a good thing. Feeling happy?

If the tip rests on the mainspring, you can resharpen it, but it will again dull. This is inevitable, you will never be able to keep the tip sharp.
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All this talk about blade tips resting on springs or touching the inside of the blade well..... Not that it is necessarily a good thing, but seems to be an extremely common design for a lot of the traditional French, Spanish and Italian folders both friction and spring design. Even Opinel blade edges touch the inside of the handle. I suppose if you collect these types of knives, it just goes with the territory and if you're not okay with it, may want to look elsewhere.

The solution to preventing dull tips is the addition of a piece of matchstick under the kick area, or a strip of leather or cork under the area where the contact point is, combined with easing the blade shut. Not exactly technologically advanced, but neither were the originals. That's part of the charm for me. After these 'fixes', I don't notice much of a problem, but considering many of them are also made with what modern collectors would consider inferior steel, it really doesn't make much difference.... Easy to sharpen as well!
 
Âchillepattada said:
Hello,
It's a pleasure to see it again :)
To my humble opinion Pierre Yves Joyeux offers exceptional Laguioles, made by only himself and very elegant. You can also ask him an hand engraved spring in the old way ( not with a milling machine) which is also rare.

Â
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I don’t remember what we traded, but I think I got the better end of the deal. Thanks again for the knife and raising awareness of the small knife makers out there.
 
draggat said:
All this talk about blade tips resting on springs or touching the inside of the blade well..... Not that it is necessarily a good thing, but seems to be an extremely common design for a lot of the traditional French, Spanish and Italian folders both friction and spring design. Even Opinel blade edges touch the inside of the handle. I suppose if you collect these types of knives, it just goes with the territory and if you're not okay with it, may want to look elsewhere.

The solution to preventing dull tips is the addition of a piece of matchstick under the kick area, or a strip of leather or cork under the area where the contact point is, combined with easing the blade shut. Not exactly technologically advanced, but neither were the originals. That's part of the charm for me. After these 'fixes', I don't notice much of a problem, but considering many of them are also made with what modern collectors would consider inferior steel, it really doesn't make much difference.... Easy to sharpen as well!
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I am sure wood will crush and fall out, leather will compress, and based on my experience filing and fitting brass inserts, I have no doubt it takes time to get the right thickness.

And I had a brass insert fall out. Once the edge contacts the mainspring, it will get damaged in the future. It all depends just where it makes contact, in time, a roll or a flat spot.

Even then, with the blade floating a millimeter off the mainspring, the edge will get dented with pocket carry. Something will press on the pocket, the back of the blade, the edge will contact the mainspring, and the edge will roll and dent. That must be why the French sell knife pouches so the knife can be carried on the belt.

Given that the brand names are making an effort to prevent edge contact with the mainspring, perhaps the French are starting to consider self dulling knives a little less charming?
 
If this design has so many flaws, someone must be a damn kind of masochist to get that many, just to deter them. Makers thank you for your trade!
(Don't want to feed this endless and useless quibbling, but the wise man will take the opportunity to change that crushed wood, compressed leather or wtf the day he oils the joint... or get a toothpick. 😂😂😂)

Back to the more interesting Shane's topic. All has been said, but you'll notice most pictures show the knives from a side point of view.
So, do you prefer a fat, swollen or sleek handle? This changes drastically the feeling in hand.
 
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