Laguiole knives?

...and then there's this one.
About the same dimensions, a little over 4.25" closed with a blade a little over 3.5", with a corkscrew and olive wood handles with the cross made of pins. This one obviously is stamped "Veritable Laguiole" along with "12C27 FRANCE."
Anyone have an idea of the maker?
This one is also obviously an inexpensive version, yet quite robust and pretty well put together. Seems to me, that these are the "tourist grade" variety, yet there's no evidence of their provenance...
Help!? ;)

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Will Power said:
Harry Thanks for your kind remarks. JStrange is right, the lockbar is the backspring and the bee is all one piece not welded. It's very comfortable in the hand and is easy to depress by squeezing the end. My photo might make it look uncomfortable or awkward, but, it's neither.

Quality and finish on these are remarkable and there are numerous options fot handles/finish, 3 types of steel and wait time is only about 3 weeks max

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Here's my smooth bone Fontenille-Pataud with polished finish showing the filework/bee and backspring lock, which as I mentioned, is one solid forged piece no joins.
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Hi everyone
Is the laguiole en aubrac just for table usage or is it really a multi usage knife (wood, cans,.....)
 
Marc004 said:
Hi everyone
Is the laguiole en aubrac just for table usage or is it really a multi usage knife (wood, cans,.....)
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It also makes an excellent breasting knife for birds or for cleaning small fish. It has a very sharp, thin, fairly flexible blade, so I would use it for any task that calls that blade description. Wood and cans are probably out though...
 
puukkoman said:
...and then there's this one.
About the same dimensions, a little over 4.25" closed with a blade a little over 3.5", with a corkscrew and olive wood handles with the cross made of pins. This one obviously is stamped "Veritable Laguiole" along with "12C27 FRANCE."
Anyone have an idea of the maker?
This one is also obviously an inexpensive version, yet quite robust and pretty well put together. Seems to me, that these are the "tourist grade" variety, yet there's no evidence of their provenance...
Help!? ;)

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Hard to tell the maker, but the town has 90% chances to be Thiers, lots of makers used the same components, the year probably in the 70-80s (rather 80s, from the 12C27), according to the corkscrew and the fact is is welded, as probaly the fly. (not a problem to me)
Véritable Laguiole has been used and abused. It could be, I do insist on the could, come from Perraud-Dassaud, an old Thiers cutler, now part of Thiers Issard (Gilles Reynewaeter ) since 2001. They were specialised in Laguioles.
 
I spent about two hours last night window shopping Laguioles. Such a beautiful pattern. I feel that many of them are just too large for me to regularly carry, though. I did find some 7cm examples, but, unfortunately, they didn't have the gorgeous file work that many of the 9-, 10-, and 12cm examples have. So, my searches will continue, and I'll continue to admire the pattern from afar.

Everyone who has posted a picture on this thread: THANK YOU! There are some extraordinary knives collected in this thread.
 
Wurrwulf said:
I spent about two hours last night window shopping Laguioles. Such a beautiful pattern. I feel that many of them are just too large for me to regularly carry, though. I did find some 7cm examples, but, unfortunately, they didn't have the gorgeous file work that many of the 9-, 10-, and 12cm examples have. So, my searches will continue, and I'll continue to admire the pattern from afar.

Everyone who has posted a picture on this thread: THANK YOU! There are some extraordinary knives collected in this thread.
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The size of a knife that makes for comfortable carry is certainly a personal decision, but I will say that I had the same concerns when was shopping around online for my first Laguiole. They are a little longer than some of my other EDCs, but the slim profile makes it sit nicely in a pocket and I now find myself carrying one just about every day.
 
wurrwulf a 9 or 9.5cm Lag is a small one and very good in the pocket. See my FP shown earlier.
But as others have pointed out, the Lag is a slim knife but usually has thick handle slabs giving it superb in hand feel, in fact, I think there is no finer in hand knife than this product of Thiers :cool::thumbup::thumbup:

Thanks, Will
 
Beautiful pattern, and beautiful examples shown in the thread.
I especially like the FP makes, like the ones posted by Will Power. :thumbup::thumbup:
 
Jolipapa said:
Jallier is a craftsman now retired, in Chabreloche, near Thiers. What do you intend by "paying too much"?
Here a few of his knives. He has a good few left ans sells them on the markets and exhibits.
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This one is a one off (bone) made for a friend
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Belated thanks for the info! I thought I might have "over paid" b/c I got it in a tourist shop...
 
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Those knives by Jallier are beautiful, Jolipapa!

edison - This is just my opinion, but if a knife pleases you then you did not pay too much for it.

Another opinion - I like they way knives are made in France. To me they usually seem very workmanlike without being fussy or pretentious. That is, perfectly imperfect.

Regards,
Jeff
 
I love old school traditional knives , in june ill be visiting france for some time think i better start saving now to have extra spending cash just for knives !! These pictures everyone has shared are beautiful dont know much about french knives at all besides my no.8 opinel that i have had for years hahaha but these are amazing ! Loving this thread


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I agree with you Jeff_R about knife pricing! I was not aware of the story behind Jallier, so I am doubly happy. I never thought I'd say this, but French knives are quickly becoming my favorites between Opinels, Douk Douks and the Laguiole!
 
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I have one with spike punch and corkscrew, from G.David with the crossbow logo. Use it every day and have been doing so for 27 years. The horn has discoloured to dark yellow and I have sharpened the carbon steel blade so often that it has lost a full mm width. No lock, the spring is still as strong as when new and there is no play in the blade pivot. None. After 27 years of hard use and abuse. I use the spike often to clean the soles of my hiking boots and to punch holes in wood before screwing, instead of pre-drilling. I suppose it would also be great with a fire steel as the spike is triangular with two straight angled sides and one curved side. Also no play in the spike pivot after all those years. True, the David has no special pin to prevent the blade from hitting during closing, but the real fan will close a Laguiole gently. And the fact that the knife holds up so well after 27 years of hard use tells you a lot. Oh, the corkscrew is very good too, but as I have a real Laguiole sommelier corkscrew knife at home, I use the one on my pocket knife very seldom. ;-)
 
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One thing about the real Laguioles. They don't lock. For that reason they are legal carry in France. Locked knives are not. Thus the Fontenille models with their backlock can in principle not be carried in public places. Traditional non locking Laguioles enjoy a special status, confirmed in court, that allow one to carry them almost anywhere. Fortunately their spring action is so stiff that for most tasks a lock is not needed anyway.
 
Who knew :confused:. I have been admiring the knives offered by Coutellerie Chambriard such as Le Thiers Compact but I had not tuned in to the range of Laguioles. You all have me very intrigued and so begins a study. :thumbup: Should be a Laguioles in my future. They are such elegant folders. Thanks for this interesting thread.

Ray
 
schwep Welcome to this place and thanks for contributing. :thumbup: Could you perhaps post a picture of your David? I gave your fellow compatriot, jolipapa an old Lag from David some time back, this too had a spike but no corkscrew, he told me it was likely a fleam, that is a spike for letting the gas-bloat out of animals stomachs! :eek: The horn had been badly cracked due to a cleaner dropping it on the floor from my office desk years ago.... so I was hoping Alain could fix it up for himself at some stage. I didn't know that lock knives were a no-no in France, is this a new law and, how about the mighty Opinel? They lock and there's millions of them about??:confused:

Here's my other small David Lag, it's from 1990 or before with a 73 that's been given to Brett. Note the nice stamped blade, no wish-washy etches here :D

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Thanks, Will
 
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Here's the beast Will! :) I had intended to have the slabs changed at G David's workshop, but my motorcycle decided to have a rest around Nevers (# halfway)...:grumpy: So this will be made later hopefully.
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Laws for knives are a bit vague. You're not allowed to have a knife in your pocket, but some are tolerated, if you need it.
Formerly all knives were considered as a 6th category weapon, unless (please appreciate :D) they were not built with the intended aim to harm or kill. Thus Lags, traditionals and locking knives like Opis were tolerated (automatics were unrestricted too as long as you did not show). This has recently changed (2013) and now are considered as a category D (weapons in unrestricted sale, like hunting guns - but not rifles, cat B or C-) daggers and locking knives. They must be kept at home in a safe or in a locked box when transported.
In fact it still depends of where you are and what you're doing. Noone will object a small dagger if for a scout picnic, but it won't be the same if you're at the stadium. Even a cadet SAK will be seized then.

If you want a free headache, just read this https://www.service-public.fr/particuliers/vosdroits/N287
 
Well OK,

I felt like had a modicum of self control as I worked my way through this thread. I was interested, but in a spectator/observer sort of way.

That all changed when I reached that Ram's Head in Post #59. Thanks Jollipapa!
 
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