Large blade knife - suggestions

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Hello All, I am looking for a large bladed knife/machete for wilderness trips. I have been using a Camillus air force survial knife since I bought it in '67. While it has been a good companion and served me well, it lacks in a few areas .... chopping, prying, and splitting. I would like to get a knife in the 7"-10" blade size that can be used as a small machete and well as some knife functions. Having a usable saw and small area which is serrated would be a plus. The knife should be able to take a lot of punishment and have great blade retention. I had to be careful with the Camillus when using it for certain functions. Am I asking for too much? Any suggestions/opinions? I am completely open. Thanks, Jim
 
Take a look at the Becker line and the Swamp Rat line. They are great knives at a good value. ;)
 
The Swamp Rat Battle Rat has the exact same size and shape blade as the original Battle Mistress. It is made from a very tough steel as well, but has a type of rubber handle. It's an excellent knife and would be my first choice for a big chopper. And the price is much less than a BM, they can be had for around $150, or less on the secondary market.
 
Swamp Rats are made by Busse if you were not aware. I second their quality.

Skam
 
mjpo2005, I have thought about a kukri, but I believe I will stick to a straight line knife or so since I'm use to them.
 
Try a $18 12 inch Ontario machete. That's what I pair up with my AFSK. It's a good combination. Mac
 
tknife & skammer , if the swamp rat is the same as the busse, why the cost difference? I took a look at the swamp rat camp knife and I like its looks. Can you get it with a saw back and serrated edge?


Mac, I have tried Ontario products(survival machete) before and they did not hold up. So, I'm a little gun shy about their products.
 
They are made of different materials. ie: Resiprene handles instead of bolted on Micarta. They don't offer saw backs, those are usually not good anyway. A small folding saw will blow a sawback knife out of the water in sawing ability.
 
so, which has a better steel....busse or swamp rat? Is either better than Ontario ? What about a Fehrman?
 
riverotter said:
so, which has a better steel....busse or swamp rat? Is either better than Ontario ? What about a Fehrman?

Well this question will open a can of worms so I will keep it simple.

Swamp rat steel is different than Busse and nearly as good.

Skam
 
My second Fehrman is due sometime this month. It's really tough to beat 3V steel that has a good heat treat and Fehrman knows how to treat 3V. IMO it's right up there with INFI, but not proprietary.
 
riverotter said:
tknife & skammer , if the swamp rat is the same as the busse, why the cost difference?
As noted, different materials give the Swamp Rat blades a cheaper price point = great value "high bang for the buck" knives. They are pretty indestructible under human power and are backed by a "if you break it, we'll replace it" warranty.

riverotter said:
I took a look at the swamp rat camp knife and I like its looks. Can you get it with a saw back and serrated edge?
As Tknife said, knife sawbacks are not very good and a folding saw will outperform a knife sawback in efficiency and overall performance. Knifeback saws are inevitably a poor substitute for a saw designed specifically to cut wood. The folding Japanese pruning saws are very lightweight, adding neglegible weight to your pack. I sometimes carry a Tashiro folding saw in a BDU pocket & will forget its there due to its light weight. The efficiency of energy exerted & control of cutting offered by a pruning saw (vs an axe/hatchet) is especially important in a survival situation where you may be injured, massively fatigued, hypothermic, dehydrated, or otherwise impaired.
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You didn't say if your wilderness trips are car camping or backpacking, so I will make a recommendation for a large blade to take backpacking because it has the tighter weight restrictions.

Of the blades mentioned already, I would recommend the Swamp Rat Camp Tramp as a blade that offers lots of durability and performance for a nominal price. After that, IMHO you should check out the Busses, then Fehrmans. The Busses get the nod for their INFI steel. While 3V is tough (my EDC folder has it), INFI offers some really desirable characteristics for a big blade. (i.e. hard carbides in a very tough semi-ductile matrix so it wears well, but resharpens readily)

You asked about Livesay Knives or (I assume the Ontario version of his) RTAK.
- The Ontario RTAK's had a spotty record of durability due to possible QC inconsistency. Searching the web should locate reports on that issue.
- Newt Livesay: I like Newt personally and think he makes very pragmatic "not made to be pretty", reasonably-priced, user blades that the working soldier/hunter/outdoorsman can afford to buy without breaking the bank. Newt's proficiency at heat-treating 1095 steel, which he uses in many of his knives, is top-notch. But lots of people report trouble with his customer service, delivery delays, lack of communication, etc. Again, a search of the web (or the Good, Bad, & Ugly forum here on Bladeforums) will return you a bunch of info both positive and negative. Because I admire his work so much, it pains me to see his reputation in the knifemaking community taking a beating for non-workmanship issues.

As a recommendation for more than one tool, I'd go with:
1. large blade for wood splitting - Swamp Rat Camp Tramp or equivalent
2. folding pruning saw for sectioning out wood - Corona, Felco, Silky, or Tashiro Hardware
3. small thin fixed blade for most of your cutting/slicing chores - Swedish Army Knife, other mora, or whatever other skinny-bladed knife suits your purposes
4. tool for equipment repair - SAK or Leatherman type multi-plier
 
How about something from Justin at Ranger Knives? Say a RD9 or even a custom bowie. Justin seems like a great guy to deal with and offers customisation (different steel, handle material, grinds, finish) at extremely competitive prices.
 
OWCA, the bowie does look good, but it was a limited run and looks to have ended. Looks like Gingrich is from my neck of the woods.
 
So guys, here is everyones suggestions so far:

Busse
Fehrman
Ranger
Swamp Rat
Ontario
gurkha kukri- Himalayan
Livesay

If you could only carry one knife.....which one would you choose for an.... all around large utilitarian, chopping, clearing, splitting, skinning, prying, edge retaining, slicing, kitchen, cutting, digging, craving, beat the heck out of tool, save your a$$, etc. knife? :confused:
 
the bowie does look good, but it was a limited run and looks to have ended.
I think he still has a couple left, but yes it is a limited run.

Busse
Fehrman
Ranger
Swamp Rat
Ontario
gurkha kukri- Himalayan
Livesay
From those I would go for a RD-9 in 3V, full flat grind with micarta scales. Although in reality I went for a custom: Roger Linger Hurricane SCK
 
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