large cpm 20 cv blade .. need some guidance

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I have a pretty big K-Tip Gyuto I am working on. 10" blade, 4mm thick stock.

There has been several threads recently debating how to most efficiently finish out knives with regards to abrasive costs and of course time.

I would like to take the blade to finish size pre heat treat to save time and belts. also I need to have a needle thin tip on this that can ghost right through an onion, and only about .005 behind the edge. the bevels are symmetric ground with a 48" radius platen.

For those guys that do their own heat treating how much of a nightmare would this blade be to harden and keep straight? Keep in mind there would be no parallel or even flat surfaces on this knife.

I would ask directly but the heat treating guys are so slammed with work.
 
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Brad at Peters wants .010 edge minimum. That's what I send him and they always come back straight.
Tim
 
Yah I will have to finish the bevels post heat treat to some degree, I am more wondering about the distal taper ie. not being able to put between plates.
 
I've used shorter plates and clamped the largest flat surfaces and not worrying about the tang. Try carefully placing the blade between the plates which will form a wedge or v shape rather than being parallel.
 
I find 20 CV easy to grind after H/T so that's what I'd do. As for keeping it straight during H/T with no parallel sides to keep everything straight? Probably not and without parallel surfaces to draw heat into the plates you wont get a good quench either.
I'm not trying to be rude here but I just can't figure out why you have so much trouble grinding hardened steel. I grind high V steels after H/T all the time and after that, 20 CV feels like butter.
 
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