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Lashing a knife to a staff

psy-ops

psy-ops

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Since that last thread which I could not find, I decided to go ahead and do it.
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Really not too bad. It is funny I always thought skeletonized handles were good for lashing but that are useless for it.
 
I've had good luck splitting a shaft part way and inserting one of those flat cheezy throwing knives that can be had fairly easily, and than lashing the shaft back together.. That's cool too though..
 
lash a knife to a pole for a spear unless 1. you want to break the knife 2. you want to lose the knife.Better to sharpen a pole,fire harden it and use that..that way you'll have your knife with you where it belongs(just my opinion)..having said that..I did fix a cold steel bushman to a pole,just for fun,and threw it at some stumps...yes..it bent..:D A folder WILL have a short life span doing this
 
wasp said:
lash a knife to a pole for a spear unless 1. you want to break the knife 2. you want to lose the knife.Better to sharpen a pole,fire harden it and use that..that way you'll have your knife with you where it belongs(just my opinion)..having said that..I did fix a cold steel bushman to a pole,just for fun,and threw it at some stumps...yes..it bent..:D A folder WILL have a short life span doing this
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It was mentioned before that a knife on the end of a pole could be used for things other than self defence, ie: fruit gathering, limb cutting.
 
wasp said:
lash a knife to a pole for a spear unless 1. you want to break the knife 2. you want to lose the knife.Better to sharpen a pole,fire harden it and use that..that way you'll have your knife with you where it belongs(just my opinion)..
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It's like you're reading my mind without me knowing. Hey remind me to mail a card to my mom too while you're in their please. :D
 
I've had a couple of instances where lashing my knife to a pole was very handy. It gave me the reach I needed to jab/stab a wounded bull coon without having to join him in the tree. It allowed me to twist him out of the tree (wound his thick hide and fur around the knife), lever him to the ground for the killing jab. It wasn't my first choice of methods, but I was out of hunting arrows, had one coon down and a wounded one up a tree. In the end, I walked home with two very heavy coons, didn't loose or break my hunting knife or my bow.

A note on the pictures though, more cord, tighter lashing, forget the bulky granny knots.

Codger
 
Coote (where is he?) also had occasion to lash his knife on a pole to finish off a wild pig that was caught in a snare (IIRC). I asked him if he thought a fire-hardened wooden spear would do as well to which he replied that he didn't believe so. I would concur.

Sometimes I wonder if people are talking about lashing a knife to a pole and throwing it as a spear. If that is the case, I would agree that it wouldn't be the wise thing to do, but to finish off a snared wild critter, or the application to which Codger refers, would certainly be suitable. My opinion, of course.

Doc
 
Codger_64 said:
A note on the pictures though, more cord, tighter lashing, forget the bulky granny knots.

Codger
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Yeah, I just did this quick. I thrusted it into a tree multiple times. Those crappy knots held up.


Wasp, I doubt that my knife would break.

I just did this to check it out. I never did it before. There are always many posts on knife lashing and I comment often but never did it.
 
Thank you for posting this, I hope you don't mind if I try to turn it into a lesson.

Gentlemen we need a primer on knots and lashings. This lashing should have begun and ended with a clove hitch. The clove hitch is one of the simplest and most important knots. It is a priority that everyone knows this knot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clove_hitch

Almost every lashing starts with a clove hitch. On this one you'd start witha clove hitch, then wrap the rope around the knife and pole several times, then finish with a clove hitch.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lashing_knot
 
I was talking more about throwing the spear than using it to jab or cut things out of reach with:)Most survival books recommend lashing your ONLY survival tool (knife) to a pole and throwing it:mad:this always makes me cringe..:eek:carry on!
 
wasp said:
Better to sharpen a pole,fire harden it and use that
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Would you, or anybody, mind posting a tutorial on this. I always hear about it, but have no idea how to fire harden wood, other than burning it into charcoal.
 
Coote posted his boar photo here a while back. He used a large bushman IIRC.

The only knife I own that lends itself to this is the bushman but I only carry it when I want a spear around. My daughter carried a mini bushman for a while as I wanted her to be able to have a spear for defense.

+1 to the fire hardend spear idea. Lashing your only knife to a shaft is an act of desperation or worse. Mac
 
I was so disappointed when les stroud did that crap. I know he's not a knife guy, but I thought he had better reason than that.
 
Mate, you really should practice your knotting and lashing techniques - there's heaps of info online, just google it.
 
wood put it into the hot ashes of the fire,your not trying to burn it just to steam the sap out to make it harder.To test this try denting the wood with your thumbnail,when you can't do this...it's done:thumbup:
 
pict said:
Coote posted his boar photo here a while back. He used a large bushman IIRC.

The only knife I own that lends itself to this is the bushman but I only carry it when I want a spear around. My daughter carried a mini bushman for a while as I wanted her to be able to have a spear for defense.

+1 to the fire hardend spear idea. Lashing your only knife to a shaft is an act of desperation or worse. Mac
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Hey Mac,

I believe you're right about the Bushman.

Regarding using your only knife as an act of desparation, if you have a wild pig in a snare and it has to be dispatched ASAP, I would suggest this might qualify. Consider, first of all, to fire harden a stick, you have to gather wood, build a fire, etc. All this takes time.

Secondly, killing a pig with a sharpened, fire-hardened stick doesn't seem like the easiest thing to do, not that doing the same with a knife-spear sounds that easy either. :( , but I think it would be much easier than the stick.

This is just my opinion, having done neither.

What knife you have would also be a determining factor.

Your thoughts?

Doc
 
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