Lateralus

JBS TOOLMAKER said:
You don't like my work....scroll...don't troll. Why not post your real name ? Or call me like men do ? I do what I do...I don't set secondary market prices that you obviously have a problem with...don't like it ? LEAVE...
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JBS TOOLMAKER said:
I didn't ask for any feedback.
But I would love to talk to you since you've been a fine supporter of my work...feel free to call or message me...
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Hi.

You post your knives here on an open thread, then you open them to feedback. That is how it works here. You don't seem to have a problem with complimentary feedback, you "appreciate" it. So take the bad with the good, like a "man" (since that seems to be a thing for you). You don't want feedback, then close the thread to comments and additional posts.

Otherwise, I am not sure what the point of this thread would be other than an advertisement for your knives.

Speaking of which, if you are going to do that you might at least consider getting a paying Gold membership here - if not a Knifemaker's membership, to support the site. If you already have such a membership, then you should go into your settings and change your group memberships because all it shows now is Registered User.

{comments on knife itself deleted as it was suggested to me that I was very harsh}

Still, I wish you all the best in selling your knives, even though this (and the others I have seen) are definitely not for me.
 
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The Virginian said:
Hi.

You post your knives here on an open thread, then you open them to feedback. That is how it works here. You don't seem to have a problem with complimentary feedback, you "appreciate" it. So take the bad with the good, like a "man" (since that seems to be a thing for you). You don't want feedback, then close the thread to comments and additional posts.

Otherwise, I am not sure what the point of this thread would be other than an advertisement for your knives.

Speaking of which, if you are going to do that you might at least consider getting a paying Gold membership here - if not a Knifemaker's membership, to support the site. If you already have such a membership, then you should go into your settings and change your group memberships because all it shows now is Registered User.

{comments on knife itself deleted as it was suggested to me that I was very harsh}

Still, I wish you all the best in selling your knives, even though this (and the others I have seen) are definitely not for me.
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I do have a knifemaker membership. I have 2 forums where I sell my work, just sharing here. Didn't ask for any opinions. I was taught if I can't say something nice, to keep my mouth shut. Some people were not I guess. But, what's really great is people who make a point to tell me my work is not for them, it's refreshing to know you wasted your time on something you don't like. Thank you for your support good or bad I still got paid to do my job and there is a happy customer.
 
Furthermore, the guy giving "constructive criticism " is a known Internet knife group troll. Build as many knives as I have , eat the grit, then I might listen. There are many great makers I look to for advice and opinions. Wolves are not concerned with the opinions of sheep. But, the sheep do tend to make noise.
 
JBS TOOLMAKER said:
I do have a knifemaker membership. I have 2 forums where I sell my work, just sharing here. Didn't ask for any opinions. I was taught if I can't say something nice, to keep my mouth shut. Some people were not I guess. But, what's really great is people who make a point to tell me my work is not for them, it's refreshing to know you wasted your time on something you don't like. Thank you for your support good or bad I still got paid to do my job and there is a happy customer.
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Ken and I disagree more often than we agree lately, but he makes a valid point.

If you have a Knifemaker membership on BFC, you have to change your user group to reflect it.

If you don't have a Knifemaker membership, and you post photos of your work here, regardless of inviting comments or not, you might perhaps consider it. I spoke with the owner of BFC(Spark) at the SHOT show, and this site has continued to have more active members every year since its' inception....and it is the largest knife forum on the internet. Paid memberships help keep the lights on, and allow for continued upgrades to service.

I don't particularly care for this knife aesthetic either, but haven't seen enough of your work to form an opinion on it. From your website, some of them look cool, some don't appeal to me.

There is a butt for every seat, a woman for someone to love her and a knife for every hand. My Japanese Sensei always said, "even if someone learns bad martial arts, they are still practicing, and there is value in that. They can always learn more". That's true for all of us.

That tired "all that matters is my customer is happy?" It don't wash. These days, a promising up-and-coming maker can be yesterday's news in a flash, just as easily as he or she can be a rockstar for the foreseeable future. The goal should be to get three new customers for every happy one....repeat business keeps paying the bills, as does positive press.

Do the best work you can, listen to everything said, keep an even temper, and everything should be all right for you.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
Kohai999 said:
Ken and I disagree more often than we agree lately, but he makes a valid point.

If you have a Knifemaker membership on BFC, you have to change your user group to reflect it.

If you don't have a Knifemaker membership, and you post photos of your work here, regardless of inviting comments or not, you might perhaps consider it. I spoke with the owner of BFC(Spark) at the SHOT show, and this site has continued to have more active members every year since its' inception....and it is the largest knife forum on the internet. Paid memberships help keep the lights on, and allow for continued upgrades to service.

I don't particularly care for this knife aesthetic either, but haven't seen enough of your work to form an opinion on it. From your website, some of them look cool, some don't appeal to me.

There is a butt for every seat, a woman for someone to love her and a knife for every hand. My Japanese Sensei always said, "even if someone learns bad martial arts, they are still practicing, and there is value in that. They can always learn more". That's true for all of us.

That tired "all that matters is my customer is happy?" It don't wash. These days, a promising up-and-coming maker can be yesterday's news in a flash, just as easily as he or she can be a rockstar for the foreseeable future. The goal should be to get three new customers for every happy one....repeat business keeps paying the bills, as does positive press.

Do the best work you can, listen to everything said, keep an even temper, and everything should be all right for you.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
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Thanks for the advice.
 
Keep in mind , the only reason this is the largest is because you don't have to post your real name, or have a valid email address. It opens the door for ignorance , trolls etc. The largest is USN. You're accountable for what you say, it keeps out the B.S. I haven't posted here in a long time, just trying to reconnect with old friends. Thought maybe it changed here....My mistake.
 
I'm glad you decided to post here, keep it up! It would be a good idea to get a Knifemaker membership, though. The USN is a good place but it has it's limitations. There is a different breed of collector here, I rarely go to USN.
 
JBS TOOLMAKER said:
Furthermore, the guy giving "constructive criticism " is a known Internet knife group troll. Build as many knives as I have , eat the grit, then I might listen. There are many great makers I look to for advice and opinions. Wolves are not concerned with the opinions of sheep. But, the sheep do tend to make noise.
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Nice to see you view yourself as a wolf and knife collectors such as myself as sheep.

Again, best of luck.
 
JBS TOOLMAKER said:
Keep in mind , the only reason this is the largest is because you don't have to post your real name, or have a valid email address. It opens the door for ignorance , trolls etc. The largest is USN. You're accountable for what you say, it keeps out the B.S. I haven't posted here in a long time, just trying to reconnect with old friends. Thought maybe it changed here....My mistake.
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It's the largest.....because it's the largest. Fact! All the rest is a guess, nobody trying to impress!

One thing you have to remember at BFC, is that even if it turns into a high-school popularity contest...there is always someone who can come in, post freely and not agree with that crap. If they make a good point, it will be seen as such. At some of the Usually Societally Numerous other forums, that will get you banned. How is that good for anyone?

You can always choose to sign your name to your posts......I have since day one, and also have no issue calling a maker if there is a misunderstanding.

JBS TOOLMAKER said:
Sir, just let it go. It's ok if you don't like me. I'm doing fine without you. Stop wasting your time on me.
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If Ken wants to opine, that's his prerogative. If you are doing fine, you are fine!

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
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I clicked on this thread because of the title. I'm a Tool fan.

FWIW, I don't normally like this style knife, but I do like this one. I think you've done a fine job. Was thinking one day I might end up buying a Hinderer just to have something heavy duty and fierce in my collection, but I might even prefer to own something like this. :thumbup:
 
traumkommode said:
I clicked on this thread because of the title. I'm a Tool fan.

FWIW, I don't normally like this style knife, but I do like this one. I think you've done a fine job. Was thinking one day I might end up buying a Hinderer just to have something heavy duty and fierce in my collection, but I might even prefer to own something like this. :thumbup:
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Maynard James Keenan is a strange cat. Saw Tool perform at RCKNDY in Seattle, about 1994. Thought I was seeing a Rollins Tribute band....it was kind of funny...

Like the Atomic Punks, that morphed into Steel Panther....awesome and hysterical at the same time!

A Salvadoran machete is fierce, heavy duty and inexpensive.

You can cut sugarcane all day with one, and then lop off someone's arm at night when the rum gets to your head. Try one of these before you go thinking a folding pocketknife is all heavy duty and fierce. Whoooo!!!!!

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
I can think of no circumstance, in the many years I've been a contributor and observer of this forum, where being overly reactive to criticism ended up being of benefit to the craftsman defending their work.

Much more productive to be dismissive, which also imparts that 'rockstar' mystique :D

It makes sense to explain the rationale behind making a knife the way one does when questioned, or when critical comments are made. That way, everyone can learn something. To answer to criticism of one's work with criticism of the commenter never seems to end well.
 
Kohai999 said:
Maynard James Keenan is a strange cat. Saw Tool perform at RCKNDY in Seattle, about 1994. Thought I was seeing a Rollins Tribute band....it was kind of funny...

Like the Atomic Punks, that morphed into Steel Panther....awesome and hysterical at the same time!

A Salvadoran machete is fierce, heavy duty and inexpensive.

You can cut sugarcane all day with one, and then lop off someone's arm at night when the rum gets to your head. Try one of these before you go thinking a folding pocketknife is all heavy duty and fierce. Whoooo!!!!!

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
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Nice...

Heavy-duty in comparison with the barlow that I'm currently carrying ;) Raw-dog honesty - I'm a designer, producer, and Yoga instructor. Folding knives are cool, they're fun, and blades like this are admirable. Knives really only serve me to cut food and open packages yet. Although, my Jedi training will commence soon, so a machete might serve me then while I build a lightsaber...
 
Lorien said:
I can think of no circumstance, in the many years I've been a contributor and observer of this forum, where being overly reactive to criticism ended up being of benefit to the craftsman defending their work.

Much more productive to be dismissive, which also imparts that 'rockstar' mystique :D

It makes sense to explain the rationale behind making a knife the way one does when questioned, or when critical comments are made. That way, everyone can learn something. To answer to criticism of one's work with criticism of the commenter never seems to end well.
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Nice post, Lorien...succinct and it makes sense!
traumkommode said:
Nice...

Heavy-duty in comparison with the barlow that I'm currently carrying ;) Raw-dog honesty - I'm a designer, producer, and Yoga instructor. Folding knives are cool, they're fun, and blades like this are admirable. Knives really only serve me to cut food and open packages yet. Although, my Jedi training will commence soon, so a machete might serve me then while I build a lightsaber...
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Fair enough, man....fair enough.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
Sorry, if you think I'm over reacting. I was only responding. Lately, my friends and I have been trolled non stop...he'll there are entire IG accounts dedicated to it. I love what I do. I'm successful and it's my livelihood. I have high secondary prices and for some reason that creates jealousy. I like all types if knives, I have several models, collabs , production deals etc. But, I don't have an order book, I make what I make and normally have 300 or more entries on group lottos. What I do isn't for everyone, but instead of telling me I'm wrong...why waste the time or effort. Go praise someone you do like.
 
Jason-
I recall that the fellow in question, (who, incidentally, has been pitiously shredded in W&C :D ) said he didn't like your new logo as much as the old one, and that he wasn't a fan of the stonewash treatment you used for this piece. Pretty mild criticism which wasn't presented with any vitriole I could detect. Where I think you went wrong was in simply responding. Not only that, but the response was snarky. Personally, I would have ignored that guy completely, and scrolled on to the good stuff since there was plenty of it :thumbup:.

Social media is truly double edged. This forum is as much social media as IG, FB, etc. and if one's going to utilize these platforms in order to promote one's business, one has to accept the fact that some people will troll. Because some people are trolls, and as you rightly point out, can hide behind anonymity to launch their cowardly attacks from the security of their mom's basement.

But what one can get from social media is so important, namely the ability to build rapport with customers and to give people a sense of who one is and why one does what one does. Doing that well equates to sales. Reacting strongly to trolls does not help build this rapport in any way. In fact, it has absolutely no useful purpose, in my opinion, and only serves to put one in a bad mood.

Your supporters will outnumber the trolls by a huge margin, although there will always be haters and we all know that haters gotta hate. So, to my way of thinking, it makes way more sense to focus on building that army of supporters exclusively and let the trolls dig their holes.
 
Lorien, I agree with you...but that guy is a Known Troll...he wasn't giving mild criticism he was luring me in...sadly I took the bait. Honestly, I'd like to move on now. I'll just close the thread or whatever. I like to talk knives, not personality traits.
 
Hey man, I liked the knife--it looked cool and functional. Sorry to see this thread implode. Do what makes you happy, hang in there.
 
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