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NICE! I like the lines. Very clean, orderly and proportionate. No nonsense!
It's for me, I contacted Ryan a few months ago after seeing his knives on the Georgia Knife making guild website. He was busy with work and stuff so it wouldn't be ready until December. I just got to get Paypal fixed up then he can send it to me. I will post a review. It looks good in the pic's!
PS: it goes to show you the internet works showing your stuff!
PS2: that's two military knife maker's I have bought from in the last year.
PS: it goes to show you the internet works showing your stuff!
PS2: that's two military knife maker's I have bought from in the last year.
It is very light for it's size and really like the steel plate at the back end to protect the butt of the knife. Nice overall size, the blade and handle length are perfect.
The only thing I found I don't like is the wood handle has to severe of a taper on it, to small at the guard and to big at the back end. Which makes getting a good grip awkward. If 1/8" would come of the back end and be put up front, would be my guess to make it better. Maybe I will get use to the handle not sure yet.
The only thing I found I don't like is the wood handle has to severe of a taper on it, to small at the guard and to big at the back end. Which makes getting a good grip awkward. If 1/8" would come of the back end and be put up front, would be my guess to make it better. Maybe I will get use to the handle not sure yet.
The handle at guard measures 3/4" going towards the butt end measures 1 1/2" with that great a slope I just don't know how I am supposed to get a grip on this knife.
Also, a ding on the top right side of the blade which could have been cleaned up or removed. Two inches of stain compeletey missing from the bottom of the sheath.
I know it's not the most expensive knife out there but, I have received several knives from other knifemaker's on BF when the knife arrives the knife and sheath are flaw free, excellent fit and finish in the same price range.
I would like to return the unused knife for a refund or even a value something close to what I paid for it?
Please let me know if a refund is possible or not Ryan?
Also, a ding on the top right side of the blade which could have been cleaned up or removed. Two inches of stain compeletey missing from the bottom of the sheath.
I know it's not the most expensive knife out there but, I have received several knives from other knifemaker's on BF when the knife arrives the knife and sheath are flaw free, excellent fit and finish in the same price range.
I would like to return the unused knife for a refund or even a value something close to what I paid for it?
Please let me know if a refund is possible or not Ryan?
That's too bad, I have received about eight knives from BF knife maker's Phillip Patton, Ray Laconico, Derek Goodson, Eddie White, Nick NWA, Cousin Jack and Scott T, all with flawless fit and finish in the same price range or less money depending on the knife and sheath. Looking at what you sent me looks like a flawed effort in both knife and sheath.
I guess I learn from this lesson to buy from knife maker's I can trust in there work. Any future purchases making sure there is a money back guarantee on any knife from custom knife maker's in the future.
Very disappointing, takes the wind out of my sails and will make future purchases slow down for sure.
I guess the door swings both ways, buyers get bad knives and knife maker's get bad customers. First knife I have ever asked for a refund or even something close to what I paid for it, would have made me happy.
I guess I learn from this lesson to buy from knife maker's I can trust in there work. Any future purchases making sure there is a money back guarantee on any knife from custom knife maker's in the future.
Very disappointing, takes the wind out of my sails and will make future purchases slow down for sure.
I guess the door swings both ways, buyers get bad knives and knife maker's get bad customers. First knife I have ever asked for a refund or even something close to what I paid for it, would have made me happy.
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I don't know all the details here, but a customer should be offered a reasonable period in which to inspect a knife which was purchased unseen, and on faith.
If the customer isn't happy (especially if its due to workmanship!!) A full and timely refund on an unused, unsharpened knife should be offered. This is pretty standard, and indicates a maker's confinence in his own work. If returned, the maker can then polish up his work and ship it back to the customer, or resell it. At least then something of value can be salvaged. Sure its a Pain In The Ass! That's why you should inspect your work as a buyer would BEFORE it leaves your shop.
If the maker and customer can't come to some understanding, then everyone involved loses. SpearZ, You've always been a good customer of mine. If the maker doesn't come through for you, maybe I could tune the knife up for you? Email me.
Scott
If the customer isn't happy (especially if its due to workmanship!!) A full and timely refund on an unused, unsharpened knife should be offered. This is pretty standard, and indicates a maker's confinence in his own work. If returned, the maker can then polish up his work and ship it back to the customer, or resell it. At least then something of value can be salvaged. Sure its a Pain In The Ass! That's why you should inspect your work as a buyer would BEFORE it leaves your shop.
If the maker and customer can't come to some understanding, then everyone involved loses. SpearZ, You've always been a good customer of mine. If the maker doesn't come through for you, maybe I could tune the knife up for you? Email me.
Scott
Glad to hear your comments and have a knife maker's input.
Scott the 2 knives you sent we are exactly built to the specifications and then seen in the pictures you sent me before shipping. Both are sturdy EDC and razor sharp, all is good.
After this I'll be picker about buying and knowing the knife maker and their policies about standing behind there work. It's a disappointment and takes the wind out of my sails looking at other knife maker's knives not knowing what's going to happen, makes me hesitate to buy.
Lesson learned!
Scott the 2 knives you sent we are exactly built to the specifications and then seen in the pictures you sent me before shipping. Both are sturdy EDC and razor sharp, all is good.
After this I'll be picker about buying and knowing the knife maker and their policies about standing behind there work. It's a disappointment and takes the wind out of my sails looking at other knife maker's knives not knowing what's going to happen, makes me hesitate to buy.
Lesson learned!
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Martin,
I'm not surprised that you've made the poor choice to make this matter public. So be it. You should at least tell the whole story. This was a custom order, not just a knife I made and you decided to buy. You sent me quite a few emails reminding me about your abnormally large hands and how you needed an oversized handle. That's exactly what you got. As I told you, I have average sized hands, and did the best I could to estimate how large the handle should be. Apparently I missed the mark. I have offered twice now to rework the handle to your liking. You haven't responded to either of those offers. With the oversized handle, I can't expect to re-sell the knife easily. That's why I did not offer you a refund, as I would have on any other knife. The points about the blemish, and the sheath, well those weren't mentioned when you first got the knife, I'd have to take a look.
I guess the good news is that you HAVE made me re-consider my business practices. In making your knife, I commented several times about what a pain in the ass you seemed to be. I guess I'll trust my instincts more in the future.
The offer on reworking the handle will stand.
*Edited to add that when I got the knife finished, on time, Martin had insufficient PayPal funds to pay for it. That in addition to his barrage of emails, which now include very rude emails, are why I said he's a pain in my ass.
Ryan
I'm not surprised that you've made the poor choice to make this matter public. So be it. You should at least tell the whole story. This was a custom order, not just a knife I made and you decided to buy. You sent me quite a few emails reminding me about your abnormally large hands and how you needed an oversized handle. That's exactly what you got. As I told you, I have average sized hands, and did the best I could to estimate how large the handle should be. Apparently I missed the mark. I have offered twice now to rework the handle to your liking. You haven't responded to either of those offers. With the oversized handle, I can't expect to re-sell the knife easily. That's why I did not offer you a refund, as I would have on any other knife. The points about the blemish, and the sheath, well those weren't mentioned when you first got the knife, I'd have to take a look.
I guess the good news is that you HAVE made me re-consider my business practices. In making your knife, I commented several times about what a pain in the ass you seemed to be. I guess I'll trust my instincts more in the future.
The offer on reworking the handle will stand.
*Edited to add that when I got the knife finished, on time, Martin had insufficient PayPal funds to pay for it. That in addition to his barrage of emails, which now include very rude emails, are why I said he's a pain in my ass.
Ryan
All your knives are custom made. You mean to tell me you cannot post that somewhere to resell it?
I was patient and waited several months for this knife. It's a secondary flawed effort compared to the other knives I received from various knife makers on BF. If I was a pain in the ass you should have dropped me as a client.
I had another person contact me about a knife you made for them with concerns on the workmanship, I'm not the only one.
If any knife maker feels I am a pain to deal with just say so we won't continue it's better for both parties. I'll spend my money elsewhere.
After writing this, the other thought is too just pack it in and quit buying custom made knives, just an awful scenario.
I was patient and waited several months for this knife. It's a secondary flawed effort compared to the other knives I received from various knife makers on BF. If I was a pain in the ass you should have dropped me as a client.
I had another person contact me about a knife you made for them with concerns on the workmanship, I'm not the only one.
If any knife maker feels I am a pain to deal with just say so we won't continue it's better for both parties. I'll spend my money elsewhere.
After writing this, the other thought is too just pack it in and quit buying custom made knives, just an awful scenario.
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No real dog in this hunt, but I read the thread with interest.
Just my take, but SpearZ, you're coming across to this impartial observer as more than a little obsessive and knee-jerk reactionary.
The man offered to rework the handle and inspect the problems, presumably to fix them if need be. What more could you ask for?
Seems like you tried to shame him into a refund here on a public forum, and I wonder if funds weren't the real issue all along. This is because Ryan mentions your troubles with payment. If you didn't have funds set aside for when the knife was ready, you should not have custom ordered the knife.
A handle that can be reworked, a small ding, and some missing dye (if all those are really the case) hardly add up to "just an awful scenario." Not quite earth-shaking and all easily fixable. Also, just giving the knife away (again, if that's really the case) and stopping all future custom purchases strikes me as a little Drama-Queenish.
To add: It's one thing to come in a public space and make claims about workmanship. It's another thing to back them up with photos as evidence. Frankly, I never would have made the matter public, but if things had gotten to the point where I thought a public warning was necessary, I sure would have backed up my claims with some detailed photos.
Just my take, but SpearZ, you're coming across to this impartial observer as more than a little obsessive and knee-jerk reactionary.
The man offered to rework the handle and inspect the problems, presumably to fix them if need be. What more could you ask for?
Seems like you tried to shame him into a refund here on a public forum, and I wonder if funds weren't the real issue all along. This is because Ryan mentions your troubles with payment. If you didn't have funds set aside for when the knife was ready, you should not have custom ordered the knife.
A handle that can be reworked, a small ding, and some missing dye (if all those are really the case) hardly add up to "just an awful scenario." Not quite earth-shaking and all easily fixable. Also, just giving the knife away (again, if that's really the case) and stopping all future custom purchases strikes me as a little Drama-Queenish.
To add: It's one thing to come in a public space and make claims about workmanship. It's another thing to back them up with photos as evidence. Frankly, I never would have made the matter public, but if things had gotten to the point where I thought a public warning was necessary, I sure would have backed up my claims with some detailed photos.
That what a forum is about, sorry it's not all good news. I have received many email's from knife makers saying they guarantee there work or just send it back, no questions asked.
I have enjoyed BF since joining last year, this is the first issue I have had, to bad , I get to the point to hell with it. I spent several thousand dollars on BF knife makers in about 4 months last year.
I will certainly slow down in purchasing. This has taken the appeal and fun out of it for me. I will be more critical in the future when purchasing asking for an approval period and refund if I cannot accept the knife for any reason.
It's a forum and it's my point of view. If I try to buy or have a custom knife made with any knife maker feel free to tell me for any reason it does work for you. I will spend my money, time and effort somewhere else!
The problem with payment was my limit had been breached on PayPal, it was raised, he was paid in full before the knife arrived. Also, I have purchased two knives since this incident, one from GL Drew and Derkins, both on BF, what else can I say.
If I have done anything foul in any regard, the administrators and/or moderators feel is wrong, simply remove my access to BF.
Best Regards!
I have enjoyed BF since joining last year, this is the first issue I have had, to bad , I get to the point to hell with it. I spent several thousand dollars on BF knife makers in about 4 months last year.
I will certainly slow down in purchasing. This has taken the appeal and fun out of it for me. I will be more critical in the future when purchasing asking for an approval period and refund if I cannot accept the knife for any reason.
It's a forum and it's my point of view. If I try to buy or have a custom knife made with any knife maker feel free to tell me for any reason it does work for you. I will spend my money, time and effort somewhere else!
The problem with payment was my limit had been breached on PayPal, it was raised, he was paid in full before the knife arrived. Also, I have purchased two knives since this incident, one from GL Drew and Derkins, both on BF, what else can I say.
If I have done anything foul in any regard, the administrators and/or moderators feel is wrong, simply remove my access to BF.
Best Regards!
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I wasn't looking for good news. 
Spearz, you made the matter public on an open board, so you should be prepared for public critique. I would have handled the matter differently.
That's my point. I call them as I see them. I know neither you nor Ryan, but I thought an outsider view might be of interest to both of you.
Spearz, you made the matter public on an open board, so you should be prepared for public critique. I would have handled the matter differently.
That's my point. I call them as I see them. I know neither you nor Ryan, but I thought an outsider view might be of interest to both of you.