Laugh thread - what's after "Idaho made" stamping?

Look, I'm about to leave and go to work let me be clear all I was trying to do was and maybe I didn't do it calmly enough was that there was a better way to do this and by all acounts I think CRK has earned his respect in the industry and that instead of piling on we could have or should checked into this and had a more civilized discussion about it.

Chris Reeve isn't some Johnny come lately with questionable anything but rather the exact opposite he is a long time knife industry leader and runs a first class stand up operation with one of the best products, warranties and customer service operations in the business. On top of all that we as a community are going to treat him like this in his own forum, this doesn't bode well for us as a group which I'm also a part of. That is why I spoke up, I think as a group were better than this. Lately though it seems as though things have been getting a little out of hand and instead of rational thought and logic were having emotion charged knee jerk reactions and firing off post. I'm guilty of it too and I"m going to try and do better myself.

I just thought we handled this badly as a group and we did it in the mans own internet back yard, not cool.
 
wow. this one went sideways hey? always the prob w the typed word. you cant hear tone in them. anyhow, the only reason I dont want idaho made on a knife is I like really plain simple pieces. if i didnt have a choice it wouldnt stop me from buying one. crk is proud to make em in idaho and im proud to own one regardless of the stamp
 
Brennanscott said:
What a bunch of wash women.

P.S. Anyone want to show some respect for one of the greatest knife makers the world has ever known or do you all want to sound like snotty spoiled girls picking out purses?
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that's straight up funny right there.
 
I see no problems with the made in Idaho thing... kinda cool, actually.

If Mr. Reeve starts stamping his knives with "Famous Potatoes" we got a deal breaker.
:rolleyes:
 
From an aesthetic point of view I don't care one way or the other if the knife says Idaho made. I'm more concerned with ergonomics, quality, edge profile, etc on knives.

As an American, not from or living in Idaho I should add, I am proud to see the marking and would definitely carry and use any CRK product so marked.

As a forum member who has tons of respect for CRK's well deserved reputation for integrity and first class service I am disappointed to see the mocking tone of many posts in regards to this issue. I doubt in person to Chris these same tones would be used, nor should they be here as well, imo. If you called CRK with a complaint or concern I am confident you would be treated with utmost respect, and I feel you should extend the same courtesy to your host on this forum.
 
This thread needs to be locked or deleted. In all honesty we shoo;d be ashamed of making a mockery of CRK and I am guilty of it. I do not like the stamping but after thinking about it I may buy one anyway but before I do I will look on the after market.
Mr. reeves you are the man and we love ya' so keep doing what you are doing but take into consideration about the stamping.
Thank you
 
"Interesting" thread, to say the least. I don't yet own any CRK knives, but plan to at least own a Sebenza sometime soon.

When I saw the "Idaho Made" stamp I thought of it as a tribute to "Delaware Maid". The I saw MikeC's explanation and either way I'd still not hesitate to own a Sebenza with the "Idaho Made" stamp. One of my favorite states. ;)
 
Get a real life, on a lot of US handguns is stamped:" read your manual first", yes so what , I like S&W and will still buy it.If this little word is so offending you shouldn't buy one and let the buyers that appreciate real quality in peace.If stupity would kill.....
 
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First of all, I'm pretty sure the thread was started in good humour. A sense of humour will take you a long way on a forum. Second of all, this is a forum. Where people express their opinions, which can be very rah-rah, or they can be quite critical. Its called freedom of speech and happens to be a cornerstone of your great country, where Mr Reeve happens to live.

Thirdly, the people who are expressing their opinion of the new message on the knives will lay down good, hard cash for them, some of them many times. They are the reason why CRK and its employees can continue to make these fine knives. A loyal, repeat customer is the most valued thing you can have in business. Their opinion should count for a LOT if Mr Reeve is a smart businessman, and no doubt he is.

Let's not forget that many, many people buy CRK knives. They live all over the WORLD. Most of them have probably never been to Idaho. You can never ignore your customers feelings. That is why forums like these exist, so you can get a very quick and cost-effective dipstick of what the market is thinking. It's an invaluable tool. People like Sal Glesser use it very effectively. I feel Mr Reeve needs to start doing the same. IMO he should have conducted a poll either here or on his website to get a sense of what people think.... or he could start his own forum a la Spyderco and ask the question there. Bottom line: respect goes both ways.

MikeC said:
Your kidding right, CRK was asked by the people with the State of Idaho to do some PR on behalf of the Made In Idaho campaign they did a nice piece in one of the recent NRA american hunters magazines, CRK and 2 other companies were profiled.

CRK is trying to be a good citizen in his home state of Idaho, how about cutting the man who brought us the SEBENZA, MNANDI AND UMNUM, some slack the SEBENZA has been the benchmark folder for 20 TWENTY years and CRK has one knife of the year more than once.

Yet, we have a newbie that just joined this month dogging him out in his own sub forum and gold members piling on instead of not saying anything or someone doing a google search to find out what is going on before popping off at the mouth.

This community is rapidly going down hill, I can't belive what I just read in the mans own thread, how about having some mother lovin RESPECT and try and comprehend that maybe just maybe the guy was asked by the Idaho State Government to help out with the down economey and all.

What happens here instead of someone saying hey Chris thanks for the great knives and jumping on in with the team for the big win and trying help promote your home state.

NO, NO, NO, not here were going to have a new member start a laugher thread in CRK's subforum and misinterpret the actual situation and then gold members pile on to heckle and complain about one of the knife industries great makers and a very decent business man. Not many warranties like CRK's nor customer service either.

I'm stunned and disappointed I expected so much more from this community. Check my post I don't hang in this forum nor am I a CRK fan boy, but have enough sense to know this isn't right.
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first, I kind of like the "Idaho Made" stamp. That said, I am wondering, if you were to order straight from CRK could you simply request it not be put on?

Esav Benyamin said:
One of mine, too. I even like their potatoes. (I am freaking addicted to potato, good Russian peasant food, in solid or liquid form.)
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you making potato shakes Esav?
 
Now I know where Idaho is situated and I searched a lot of info on it, so thanks I am now cleverer:)
 
Buffalohump said:
First of all, I'm pretty sure the thread was started in good humour. A sense of humour will take you a long way on a forum. Second of all, this is a forum. Where people express their opinions, which can be very rah-rah, or they can be quite critical. Its called freedom of speech and happens to be a cornerstone of your great country, where Mr Reeve happens to live.

Thirdly, the people who are expressing their opinion of the new message on the knives will lay down good, hard cash for them, some of them many times. They are the reason why CRK and its employees can continue to make these fine knives. A loyal, repeat customer is the most valued thing you can have in business. Their opinion should count for a LOT if Mr Reeve is a smart businessman, and no doubt he is.

Let's not forget that many, many people buy CRK knives. They live all over the WORLD. Most of them have probably never been to Idaho. You can never ignore your customers feelings. That is why forums like these exist, so you can get a very quick and cost-effective dipstick of what the market is thinking. It's an invaluable tool. People like Sal Glesser use it very effectively. I feel Mr Reeve needs to start doing the same. IMO he should have conducted a poll either here or on his website to get a sense of what people think.... or he could start his own forum a la Spyderco and ask the question there. Bottom line: respect goes both ways.
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Mark, very well phrased, as always.
 
Buffalohump said:
First of all, I'm pretty sure the thread was started in good humour. A sense of humour will take you a long way on a forum. Second of all, this is a forum. Where people express their opinions, which can be very rah-rah, or they can be quite critical. Its called freedom of speech and happens to be a cornerstone of your great country, where Mr Reeve happens to live.

Thirdly, the people who are expressing their opinion of the new message on the knives will lay down good, hard cash for them, some of them many times. They are the reason why CRK and its employees can continue to make these fine knives. A loyal, repeat customer is the most valued thing you can have in business. Their opinion should count for a LOT if Mr Reeve is a smart businessman, and no doubt he is.

Let's not forget that many, many people buy CRK knives. They live all over the WORLD. Most of them have probably never been to Idaho. You can never ignore your customers feelings. That is why forums like these exist, so you can get a very quick and cost-effective dipstick of what the market is thinking. It's an invaluable tool. People like Sal Glesser use it very effectively. I feel Mr Reeve needs to start doing the same. IMO he should have conducted a poll either here or on his website to get a sense of what people think.... or he could start his own forum a la Spyderco and ask the question there. Bottom line: respect goes both ways.
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I agree 100%:thumbup:

A forum is the best place for a manufacture to get customer feedback, and use it to there advantage.
 
MikeC said:
Your kidding right, CRK was asked by the people with the State of Idaho to do some PR on behalf of the Made In Idaho campaign they did a nice piece in one of the recent NRA american hunters magazines, CRK and 2 other companies were profiled.

CRK is trying to be a good citizen in his home state of Idaho, how about cutting the man who brought us the SEBENZA, MNANDI AND UMNUM, some slack the SEBENZA has been the benchmark folder for 20 TWENTY years and CRK has one knife of the year more than once.

Yet, we have a newbie that just joined this month dogging him out in his own sub forum and gold members piling on instead of not saying anything or someone doing a google search to find out what is going on before popping off at the mouth.

This community is rapidly going down hill, I can't belive what I just read in the mans own thread, how about having some mother lovin RESPECT and try and comprehend that maybe just maybe the guy was asked by the Idaho State Government to help out with the down economey and all.

What happens here instead of someone saying hey Chris thanks for the great knives and jumping on in with the team for the big win and trying help promote your home state.

NO, NO, NO, not here were going to have a new member start a laugher thread in CRK's subforum and misinterpret the actual situation and then gold members pile on to heckle and complain about one of the knife industries great makers and a very decent business man. Not many warranties like CRK's nor customer service either.

I'm stunned and disappointed I expected so much more from this community. Check my post I don't hang in this forum nor am I a CRK fan boy, but have enough sense to know this isn't right.
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WOW!!

Talk about taking the high road.............

May I remind you that the State of Idaho will benefit indirectly from money that I spend on CRK knives. If I don't like what I see then Idaho will miss out when I don't buy CRK knives.

Just another Gold member taking a pot shot :rolleyes:
 
giant1 said:
WOW!!

Talk about taking the high road.............

May I remind you that the State of Idaho will benefit indirectly from money that I spend on CRK knives. If I don't like what I see then Idaho will miss out when I don't buy new CRK knives.

Just another Gold member taking a pot shot :rolleyes:
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fixed that for you

now I have to start looking for trades for a lefty double-lugged plain 21 Sebenza, preferably with the new washers :D I love CRK, and I will absolutely still buy them, just not the ones with "Idaho Made" on it.
 
misterjuiceman said:
fixed that for you

now I have to start looking for trades for a lefty double-lugged plain 21 Sebenza, preferably with the new washers :D I love CRK, and I will absolutely still buy them, just not the ones with "Idaho Made" on it.
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OK thank you :D
 
To Giant1, I"m not taking the high road I think most on here are taking the low road. To Buffalohump, I don't think CRK needs to start imitating anyone i.e. Sal Glesser, I understand the whole freedom so speech thing. That said just because you have the right to do something, doesn't make it right to do and you can catch more flys with honey.

My point was if you would go back and read all my post in this thread, was that given his age, contributions to knife industry (sebenza, umn, mnandi) etc, knife of the year titles, his companies reputation, etc. That we as a community were being a little harsh on the man about this. As you say the thread was started in good humor, some may see this "good humor" as being carried out in or with bad taste. Especially if the situation isn't looked at from a macro perspective, understanding that this may have been something HE wanted to do.

So given the fact that he has pretty much delivered beyond "customers" and "loyal customers" expectations the world over, its HIS name on the building, its HIS sweat, work, time, effort, etc, that has been poured out to please his loyal followers for these previous DECADES. Maybe, just maybe the customers could behave with some civility towards him and show him a little respect and understanding. However what we have here as evidenced by the post in 3 separate and distinct thread regarding the matter in his on subforum are "my money my rules" excuse me HIS company HIS rules, maybe Mr. Reeve should start acting like Sal Glesser. Wow didn't know that Mr. Reeves business model and past contributions for DECADES to teh knife industry were so flawed that he needs to start doing focus groups of his customers to see what they approve and disapprove oh how short sighted of him.

I also went on to state that I thought we as a community were better than this and we could have handled better including me. Yea go back and read all my post, no wait just use the first one and don't mention anything else about the other ones, that helps you prove your point better and further distorts the context of what I was trying to say.


The man, his knives, and his company are legends in the industry he didn't get to the point his now a professional knife maker/manufacture but not delivering to and for his customers. His is aging and approached by others in his state to help with a promotion he obliged trying to do something nice and give back the way HE wanted to, and in return gets treated like a school yard punk by his "loyal customers" on his on web subforum, yea that is great good humor.

What is most troubling is, I bet on top of everything else Mr. Reeve has done, he has also gone to some time and circumstance to ensure CRK continues on after he passes so that his customers will continue to have access to his product line. That kinda thing says a lot about a man and unless you have done it or seen someone you know and love go through it, you have no idea what is like. To watch a man stare his own mortality in the eye while figuring out what to do with his brain child, his baby, his business, his CREATION, his life's works. It is a humbling experience to say the least and really helps one put things in their proper perspective.

So again, I say this isn't about you, me or us this is about HIM and I think he has earned the right (and if not then who in the industry has) to be treated a little better from his loyal customers. So while it may have been started in good humor it was executed in poor taste in my opinion.
 
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