Length of Patina Time

BloodGroove4570

BloodGroove4570

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Hey all in the middle of forcing a patina on a blade with mustard, how much time do you leave on for the first coat??????
Thanks for the replies:D.
 
Damn, 20 minutes and no response, whats veryone sleepin or eatin? no no i got it you all got drunk and cant reach the keyboard!!! lol. Guess im on my own.:eek::D
ITs ok i aint skeered;)
 
If the knife begins to bubble and you hear it scream, that's too long.
Honestly, I don't know. Wipe it off after an hour and have a look. Mustard's cheap.
 
Mine only took around 20-30 mins, but its not to deep, I can take it off with sand paper pretty easy....

I'm doing another right now with horse radish....
 
If it's a thick coating, it will not patina easily. The key is that it needs oxygen to work, so only a light coating should do the job.

Here is a thread I posted a while back when I stripped my Junglas. The Junglas is not a small knife, but I only used 1 packet of mustard from a local restaurant for the whole knife. A light smear on most areas, and some areas had a little more dabbed on. The areas with less mustard ended up having a darker patina.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=792040&highlight=stripped+junglas
Hope that helps!

JGON
 
All depends on how deep you want the etch. Less time you get a more bluish color and a shallow etch.

I have left it on overnight on one knife, because I wanted a deeper etch. If you do it long enough, and do repeated applications of random spots, you will end up making the steel look like a Damascus finish.
 
plunge it into the blood of your enemy steak, a dash of vinaigrette, and some fresh ground mustard seed. good to go :)

now i'm wondering, is it the vinegar in the mustard that works? or something else. i know vinegar by itself etches nicely. perhaps ketchup? mmm.
 
Yes, the vinegar is the acid, the mustard seed may or may not help. Plain vinegar is obviously too thin to "paint" on, well it will just run and dry up.
 
Flexxx said:
Mine only took around 20-30 mins, but its not to deep, I can take it off with sand paper pretty easy....

I'm doing another right now with horse radish....
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UPDATE:
Plus question

I got a question for all you beckerheads.

So I finished my patina using Horse Radish, it set deeper then I expected in 30mins.

So I hit it with some sandpaper until the lines can barely been seen, it looks like Damascus finish but really faded, will this be enough to protect it?

I'm still new to this patina stuff and like to learn as much as possible, when I start learning stuff I like I take it all the way, until I'm satisfied

My wife told she going to take my knifes today :eek:
Yeah, that will never happen....
 
Flexxx said:
will this be enough to protect it?
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well, use it. wipe it. sometimes with mineral oil. find out ;)

if you get any oxide patina? don't like it? remove it. start over.
 
Flexxx said:
Mine only took around 20-30 mins, but its not to deep, I can take it off with sand paper pretty easy....

I'm doing another right now with horse radish....
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WOW, i was going to try my horseradish instead of the mustard. Thatss messed up, i mean koo,l i think that we thought of that in place of the normal solutions.... How did it work???:confused:
 
It works fast, looks really good.

Here is a picture, my camera don't really pic it up but you can kind of see it....

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I wraped a vinegar soaked paper towel on my KOA bush camp knife and left it for about an hour. Madea cool camo pattern.
 
I'm going to try some vinegar action maybe even some mango next go around..

Some mustard reacts faster, I've had some on as little as 20mins adn it turned black, horrible finish so I removed it..

onward soldier..
 
I wonder if you can mix flour and vinegar to make a paste?

$hit I have no vinegar......
 
With raw steel I usually go about two or three hours, clean and repeat when I am doing mustard, Garlic, onions, tomatoes and potatoes do a good patina as well if you cook.
 
This is the patina I put on my Junglas, which is also 1095. The Izula has only a "use" patina at this point.

I did it with mustard, and it set in about half an hour.

1095 steel will start to patina with use as well, but the initial patterns are cool.

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