Let's see your traditional folders with sunk/sunken joints!

major_works said:
I don't get it. Can you please explain? More difficult to build or design?
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I don't know that it's more difficult, just that there's trade-offs. One is that the front of the tang doesn't line up nicely with the front of the frame on a knife with sunken joints. Another way to state that is that the tang won't be the full width of the bolster. This makes the knife not have as nice of lines, and possibly have a weaker joint. Here's an old thread where T.A. Davison and a couple other makers discuss the sunken vs. standard joint.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/586112-Custom-Slip-Joint-Discussion

I really like sunken joints, but there's a reason the standard joint is the standard.
 
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Thanks for the link Cory, that's an interesting discussion :thumbup:

I think I'd call the joint on my Davison semi-sunken, certainly anything else but 'common'! :D

 
I'm glad you enjoyed it, Jack. Earlier this year Evan was asked about putting a sunken joint on one of his folders. He responded that it would screw up the lines of the knife and included an illustration to show what he was talking about. It piqued my curiosity because up until that point I hadn't considered that there'd be downsides to a sunken joint. I figured that we just didn't see them often because it was one more thing that had to line up just right and it was easier to leave that corner floating in the wind so to speak. I did a little research and found that there was more to it than just the lines of the knife. I went back and tried to find the thread where Evan gave his answer, but couldn't find it. Luckily, I was able to locate the Davison thread.
 
It's certainly interesting reading my friend. Most of the ones I have are older knives, mainly penknives. The Canoes and Copperheads aren't really the same. Thanks for making me think a little ;) :thumbup:
 
Interesting. Thanks for the explanation, and link. Otherwise I was lost as to what a sunken joint was. Still a newb on some of these terms, but love learning new things.
 
Apologies for not posting earlier. A big thanks to everyone so far who shared some really beautiful knives.

Paul/pmew, I will email you soon.

Cory, thank you for the fascinating info you provided.
 
plk7 said:
Apologies for not posting earlier. A big thanks to everyone so far who shared some really beautiful knives.

Paul/pmew, I will email you soon.

Cory, thank you for the fascinating info you provided.
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No problem, I look forward to hearing from you my friend :)
 
Beautiful knives all! Love the canoes. Would really like to find a canittler, CSC or otherwise, but it seems an un-common pattern. Jack!(Mr. Black)- what is the last model and make in post number 21? I tapped the pic, and it said Carl Schlieper 8-2, but I didn't know if that was a model number, or a personal reference to that picture. The birds-eye pivots and the punch(oh that punch!) are great. I've looked around a few times for that knife or one with the same style punch without much luck. Hubertus made/makes one similar, but much more than that I do not know. Is it more common on your side of the pond, or simply an older style?
Thanks, Neal (sorry if I got off track there, really nice knives here)
 
neal70 said:
Beautiful knives all! Love the canoes. Would really like to find a canittler, CSC or otherwise, but it seems an un-common pattern. Jack!(Mr. Black)- what is the last model and make in post number 21? I tapped the pic, and it said Carl Schlieper 8-2, but I didn't know if that was a model number, or a personal reference to that picture. The birds-eye pivots and the punch(oh that punch!) are great. I've looked around a few times for that knife or one with the same style punch without much luck. Hubertus made/makes one similar, but much more than that I do not know. Is it more common on your side of the pond, or simply an older style?
Thanks, Neal (sorry if I got off track there, really nice knives here)
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Neal, The CS Cannitler is a really nice pattern and they did a nice job on the ones I've seen.
Here's a pic of our 2007 forum knife. A great example of the pattern.
P1010023_1.jpg
 
Those are beautiful knives,Peregrin, I just don't have much luck finding them when I have the dough, and when I don't have money they're on the ground like acorns around burr oaks. The forum knife is a pretty spectacular example that doesn't come up often, thanks for the picture. I have seen an example by Queen on an auction site, that was a special order for a Kansas knife collectors club, but not sure of the steel type. Jigged bone covers and, kinda neat, the shield is in the shape of Kansas as seen on a map. Gonna have to upgrade my membership, so I can sell some knives, to buy some knives. Heh heh. Prolly not an uncommon thing to do. ;) :D
Thanks, Neal
 
neal70 said:
Jack!(Mr. Black)- what is the last model and make in post number 21? I tapped the pic, and it said Carl Schlieper 8-2, but I didn't know if that was a model number, or a personal reference to that picture. The birds-eye pivots and the punch(oh that punch!) are great. I've looked around a few times for that knife or one with the same style punch without much luck. Hubertus made/makes one similar, but much more than that I do not know. Is it more common on your side of the pond, or simply an older style?
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Hi Neal, it's an old Carl Schlieper gifted to me a few years ago by Duncan in New Zealand. One of my favourite hiking knives actually. The pattern is German, and one or two manufacturers still make it, but I don't think the quality, or the steel, will be anything like the old ones :) :thumbup:
 
Peregrin said:
Neal, The CS Cannitler is a really nice pattern and they did a nice job on the ones I've seen.
Here's a pic of our 2007 forum knife. A great example of the pattern.
P1010023_1.jpg
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Mr. Levine says Canoe knives are NOT sunken joints. - Just saying.....

And I like all of the knives sunken, canoe, and standard.....:)
 
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