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Lets Start A Fixed Blade Wharncliffe Thread
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Alright, I always thought wharncliffes were just grumpy old men knives, but now I've seen the light. I've only made one, and that was by accident
, but it's probably one of my most used in the shop. It's also the only hollow ground blade I've done. Very nice knives everyone, especially love those Snody blades.
Regards,
Dave
, but it's probably one of my most used in the shop. It's also the only hollow ground blade I've done. Very nice knives everyone, especially love those Snody blades.Regards,
Dave
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Here are a couple -
By Butch Harner:
By Il Bruche:
By Bark River:
By TC Knives:
By Robert Mayo:
By me:
Andy
By Butch Harner:
By Il Bruche:
By Bark River:
By TC Knives:
By Robert Mayo:
By me:
Andy
While all the knives in this thread have been beautiful (even the folders), there is a pretty large variance in blade shapes. I recognize some, some I do not. Some are old, others are new, and I'm pretty sure that some are Wharncliffes and others are not. The edge on a Wharnie isn't quite flat, for one thing. Or is it?
We all know that I missed the handout on this thread, but can anyone actually define "Wharncliffe"?
Cheers,
We all know that I missed the handout on this thread, but can anyone actually define "Wharncliffe"?
Cheers,
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wharncliffe knives: See This Linky
also:
Patterns of knife blades
There are a variety of knife blade shapes; some of the most common are listed below.
(1) A normal blade has a curving edge, and flat back. A dull back lets the wielder use fingers to concentrate force; it also makes the knife heavy and strong for its size. The curve concentrates force on a small point, making cutting easier. This knife can chop as well as pick and slice.
(2) A curved, trailing-point knife has a back edge that curves upward. This lets a lightweight knife have a larger curve on its edge. Such a knife is optimized for slicing or slashing.
(3) A clip-point blade is like a normal blade with the back "clipped" or concavely formed to make the tip thinner and sharper. The back edge of the clip may have a false edge that could be sharpened to make a second edge. The sharp tip is useful as a pick, or for cutting in tight places. If the false edge is sharpened it increases the knife's effectiveness in piercing. The Bowie knife has a clipped blade and clip-points are quite common on pocket knives and other folding knives.
(4) A drop-point blade has a convex curve of the back towards the point. It handles much like the clip-point through with a stronger point less suitable for piercing. Swiss army pocket knives often have drop-points on their larger blades.
(5) A spear-point blade is a symmetrical blade with a spine that runs along the middle of the blade. The point is in line with the spine. Spear-points may be single-edged (with a false edge) or double-edged or may have only a portion of the second edge sharpened. Pen-knives are often single-edged spear-points, usually quite small, named for their past use in sharpening quills for writing. Pen-knife may also nowadays refer to somewhat larger pockets knives which are often drop-points. Some throwing knives may have spear-points but without the spine, being only flat pieces of metal.
(6) A needle-point blade is a symmetrical, highly tapered, twin-edged blade often seen in fighting blades, such as the Sykes-Fairbairn commando knife. Its long, narrow point offers good penetration but is liable to breakage if abused. Although often referred to as a knife, this design may also be referred to as a (slender variety of) dagger due to its use as a stabbing weapon albeit one very capable of slashing as well.
(7) A spay-point (once used for spaying animals) has a single, mostly straight edge that curves strongly upwards at the end to meet a short, dull, straight clip from the dull back. With the curved end of the blade being closer to perpendicular to the blade's axis than other knives and lacking a point, making penetration unlikely, spay points can be suitable for skinning.
(8) A Westernised tanto style knife has a somewhat chisel-like point that is thick towards the point (being close to the spine) and is thus quite strong. It is superficially similar to the points on most Japanese long and short swords (katana and wakizashi). The traditional Japanese tanto- knife uses the blade geometry of (1). The Westernised tanto is often straight but may also be gently curved. The point is actually a second edge on the end of the blade, with a total edge angle of 60 – 80 degrees. Some varieties may have the back edge angled to the point slightly and sharpened for a short distance from the point.
(9) A sheepsfoot knife has a straight edge and a straight dull back that curves towards the edge at the end. It gives the most control, because the dull back edge is made to be held by fingers. Sheepsfoot knives are good for whittling and trimming sheep's hooves.
(10) A Wharncliffe blade is similar in profile to a sheep's foot but the curve of the back edge starts closer to the handle and is more gradual. Its blade is much thicker than a knife of comparable size. [1]
(11 and 12) An ulu (Inuit woman's knife) knife is a sharpened segment of a circle. This blade type has no point, and has a handle in the middle. It is good for scraping, and sometimes chopping. It is the strongest knife shape. The semi-circular version appears elsewhere in the world and is called a head knife. It is used in leatherworking both to scrape down leather (reducing thickness), and to make precise, rolling cuts for shapes other than straight lines.
Not pictured is the serpentine or kris blade. This is a blade that is wavy (or undulating) and sharpened on each edge and tapers more or less symmetrically to a point.
also:
Patterns of knife blades
There are a variety of knife blade shapes; some of the most common are listed below.
(1) A normal blade has a curving edge, and flat back. A dull back lets the wielder use fingers to concentrate force; it also makes the knife heavy and strong for its size. The curve concentrates force on a small point, making cutting easier. This knife can chop as well as pick and slice.
(2) A curved, trailing-point knife has a back edge that curves upward. This lets a lightweight knife have a larger curve on its edge. Such a knife is optimized for slicing or slashing.
(3) A clip-point blade is like a normal blade with the back "clipped" or concavely formed to make the tip thinner and sharper. The back edge of the clip may have a false edge that could be sharpened to make a second edge. The sharp tip is useful as a pick, or for cutting in tight places. If the false edge is sharpened it increases the knife's effectiveness in piercing. The Bowie knife has a clipped blade and clip-points are quite common on pocket knives and other folding knives.
(4) A drop-point blade has a convex curve of the back towards the point. It handles much like the clip-point through with a stronger point less suitable for piercing. Swiss army pocket knives often have drop-points on their larger blades.
(5) A spear-point blade is a symmetrical blade with a spine that runs along the middle of the blade. The point is in line with the spine. Spear-points may be single-edged (with a false edge) or double-edged or may have only a portion of the second edge sharpened. Pen-knives are often single-edged spear-points, usually quite small, named for their past use in sharpening quills for writing. Pen-knife may also nowadays refer to somewhat larger pockets knives which are often drop-points. Some throwing knives may have spear-points but without the spine, being only flat pieces of metal.
(6) A needle-point blade is a symmetrical, highly tapered, twin-edged blade often seen in fighting blades, such as the Sykes-Fairbairn commando knife. Its long, narrow point offers good penetration but is liable to breakage if abused. Although often referred to as a knife, this design may also be referred to as a (slender variety of) dagger due to its use as a stabbing weapon albeit one very capable of slashing as well.
(7) A spay-point (once used for spaying animals) has a single, mostly straight edge that curves strongly upwards at the end to meet a short, dull, straight clip from the dull back. With the curved end of the blade being closer to perpendicular to the blade's axis than other knives and lacking a point, making penetration unlikely, spay points can be suitable for skinning.
(8) A Westernised tanto style knife has a somewhat chisel-like point that is thick towards the point (being close to the spine) and is thus quite strong. It is superficially similar to the points on most Japanese long and short swords (katana and wakizashi). The traditional Japanese tanto- knife uses the blade geometry of (1). The Westernised tanto is often straight but may also be gently curved. The point is actually a second edge on the end of the blade, with a total edge angle of 60 – 80 degrees. Some varieties may have the back edge angled to the point slightly and sharpened for a short distance from the point.
(9) A sheepsfoot knife has a straight edge and a straight dull back that curves towards the edge at the end. It gives the most control, because the dull back edge is made to be held by fingers. Sheepsfoot knives are good for whittling and trimming sheep's hooves.
(10) A Wharncliffe blade is similar in profile to a sheep's foot but the curve of the back edge starts closer to the handle and is more gradual. Its blade is much thicker than a knife of comparable size. [1]
(11 and 12) An ulu (Inuit woman's knife) knife is a sharpened segment of a circle. This blade type has no point, and has a handle in the middle. It is good for scraping, and sometimes chopping. It is the strongest knife shape. The semi-circular version appears elsewhere in the world and is called a head knife. It is used in leatherworking both to scrape down leather (reducing thickness), and to make precise, rolling cuts for shapes other than straight lines.
Not pictured is the serpentine or kris blade. This is a blade that is wavy (or undulating) and sharpened on each edge and tapers more or less symmetrically to a point.
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I never liked the wharncliff blade style.
Until I saw these beauties by SAR knives: (not my knives unfortunately)
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=541164
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=541605
Until I saw these beauties by SAR knives: (not my knives unfortunately)
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=541164
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=541605
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Got this one over at the exchange a couple of months back...
Not as attractive as many of the knives in this thread, but at least it is available and affordable (one in the mail)
http://www.myerchin.com/B001.html
It's neither custom nor handmade, but then that line is a bit blurred sometimes...
http://www.myerchin.com/B001.html
It's neither custom nor handmade, but then that line is a bit blurred sometimes...
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...but some of the images popped up on a Google search, and these are some of the most beautiful knives I've ever seen! Geez - where do you guys find these kinds of things? I've seen some hand made beauties at some of the New England Cutlery shows, but not like these!
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Just finished this one.
Mr Lovett that's an awesome knife.Man, there are some nice warnies here! People picked on me fo ryears for carrying one. But it is still one of my all time favorites. Fantastic in the leather room! Here are a few more that are extremely popular for me. Can't even begin to keep any for sale. MIke
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One I did a few weeks ago....
Andy
Andy