Let's talk bivys. Good ones, and cheap ones.

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Hey guys. I'm curious about the idea of sleeping in a bivy. The conflict is that I know I'm not claustrophobic, but I also know I like to move around in my tent.

So here's the deal. I want to try a cheap bivy... cheap.. cheap, cheap bivy. :thumbup: I'll sleep in it in my family room for all I care. I just want to see what it's like to spend the night in a bivy-ish enclosure. So, who knows some cheap bivys?

Or, the other option is to pick up a quality one from REI, and then return it if it doesn't work for me.

Thoughts?

Let me know about cheap ones and good ones if you know a lot about it. So like "this is a crappy cheap one you could try" or "if you go the REI route, this is a really good one".

Thanks all!
 
I'm interested in this too. With a bivvy, is there a condensation issue? Do they usually have a bug screen?
 
I backpacked with a tiny 1 person tent made by slumberjack for a while - it's very similar to the Eureka - it was fine, you could roll over,etc..., just don't try to sit up. It was only 20 inches or so high.

I have a USGI goretex BIVY now, and it's just like sleeping in a sleeping bag, unless you pull the hood section over your face. You can get like new ones on Ebay for less than $50.
 
How about thoughts on bivys versus solo tents? I'm sure that's been talked about before, but not in a while at least :)

It seems to me that the difference between a bivy and a solo tent is a lot less room for a little less weight. Is it worth it? Is it better to just get a small solo tent? They all seem to weigh 3.5-4 lbs.
 
The Eureka! Zeus 1 looks nice.

Edit: Nevermind. Didn't see it was single wall. I just read a couple reviews that talk about horrible condensation problems.
 
Im interested in this too, I am wantin a solo tent and curious about the best that are out there.
 
I have 3 bivvies that pretty much span the gammut of bivy bags:

Least expensive: Camo bivy from The Sportsman's Guide (Guide Gear brand) - This bivy cost under $30. The material is the same on the top and bottom, and is a lightweight coated nylon ripstop. It has a zipper on the right side, and a bug-proof mesh face net. Around the net is a thin wire sewn inside the edge of the body of the bag. The wire allows you to shape the net around the opening so it doesn't lay on your face.

This bivy is quite tight. It rolls however the bag rolls. The zipper is short and entry and exit are a little awkward. A plus to this bag is that I believe it is somewhat breathable, as I have not experienced any condensation inside. I have not used this bag out in the elements by itself. I have used it with a summer weight bag under a tarp shelter when temps dipped below the comfort range of the bag. It works ok, but as mentioned, it is constrictive and awkward to enter/exit. Bottom line: It was worth $30.


Middle-expensive: REI Minimalist Bivy - I purchased this bivy in March during REI's 20% Member sale, and I have only used it once so far. This unit has a coated nylon (I think) grey bottom and a red ripstop nylon top that has the REI Elements laminate as a waterproof/breathable layer. This bag is constructed well. It has 3 sets of zippers, and the zippers go half-way down each side of the bivy. This makes placing your bag inside and getting in and out very easy. Also, you can be inside the bivy, sit up, and arrange the zippers so you can just stick your arms out. It is a very versatile design.

I used this bivy last weekend on a quick overnight outing. This bag was used under a tarp shelter. Overnight temps dipped into the low- to mid-40s. Although bugs weren't an issue, I did use the face net to reduce the breeze/draft on my face. Upon waking in the morning, I was chilled inside my bag inside the bivy. Upon peeling my bag out of the bivy, there was a fair amount of condensation inside. Most of the moisture was on the inside of the bivy. Parts on my sleeping bag, on the outside near the foot, were moist, but not bad. The inside of my sleeping bag felt dry. I had read reviews of the REI minimalist Bivy stating that moisture accumulation could be an issue, so this did not surprise me. I look forward to trying this bivy out more this year.


More-expensive/higher end: Outdoor Research Advance Double Bivy - It is a constructed of a medium weight ripstop nylon with a Gore-Tex laminate. It is a double - made for two people. it has two poles - one that goes around the head area that lends shape to and helps configure the opening, and one that arcs overhead so that the bag material is well off your face.

This thing is awesome. My wife and I have used it for minimalist trips, and there has been plenty of room for us both inside. I have used it on solo trips and have kept my pack inside with me. The large mouth-like opening makes entry/exit pretty easy. Packed it is about the size of a really small two-person tent, or a spacious solo tent, but the single-piece construction (no fly), two short poles, and absence of stakes help keep it light. I have never encountered moisture in this bivy, even when camping along Lake Michigan in summer. This is one of my most favorite shelters. Sadly, I do not believe OR makes a double bivy anymore.


I also have a one-person tent bivy that was handed down to my after my uncle passed away. I have not used this unit, as it always had a funny smell to it. Last fall I decided to run it through a wash cycle in our front loader with some Tech Wash detergent. The oder is still there, but it has been largely minimized. Maybe I'll run it through another cycle one of these days. NOTE: I don't recommend washing any tent or bivy in the wash machine. If you feel you must do so, do at your own risk.

I am not sure of the manufacturer of this bivy-tent thing. It has a mid-weight coated nylon floor and a Gore-Tex laminated to ripstop nylon top. No fly. One thing that makes me leery of using it is it has two fiberglass poles that are very thin stock and are fit-together sections; not shock corded. When pitched, this shelter does provide enough interior room to allow a sleeper to roll onto his/her side and what not, but not sit up. the foot end has a hooded vent, and the slanted entry is mesh with a bungied Gore-Tex flap.


I hope this info has helped you, Noshtero (and others). Happy camping!
 
I bought the Adventure Medical Thermolite II Bivvy a few months ago. Used it twice and both times I woke up in the middle of the night soaked. It would keep you warm but I could not handle the condensation.

I guess that what I get trying to buy a cheap bivvy, now its in a box of old gear I want to sell.
 
Hikeeba, thanks a lot!

Solo tents I'm looking at:
Eureka! Backcountry 1
Eureka! Spitfire 1
Mountain Hardware Halcyon 1
Sierra Designs Light Year CD
 
I have a sportsmans guide bivy and really it's fairly heavy and also it did NOT keep me totally dry.

My problem with most bivvies is that for my wife and I both to carry one it is lighter to carry our small tent(3lbs)
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I have three. An old REI gore-tex, which has always been very comfortable. I have used it on Mt. Rainer in very cold weather to the extent of being partially buried in the snow, and had no moisture issues, it always seemed to vent very well.

An OR bivy sac, it looks like the newer Aurora on their site. again no problems, a bit tighter fitting than the REI but no condensation to speak of, very well ventilated.

I just bought an OR Bug bivy, used it once, it was fantastic, down to about 40 degrees with a 30 degree bag, perfect. The bottom is Gore-tex and the top is all mesh and has a small hoop to allow for reading or whatever. I like it alot.

Of all three I would likely take the OR regular bivy for anytime I might experience cold weather, rain or snow. For all else I like the Bug Bivy the most, with a proper Sleeping bag you could use it for lower temps and the high desert where I am currently working.

All depends on your use and climate.
 
My vote Eureka Solo Spitfire Tent!!!!!


Its what "I" have. Very nice tent.

Pros- light weight--2 pounds, 12 ounces
Double wall
Able to see stars on a clear night
Enclosed not open to creepys
Low condensation.
Small inside pockets are nice
You CAN SIT UP!!!
Its warm!!! so small so you heat it up faster


Cons- not a free standing tent, but have never had a problem
- my first couple nights in the tent was a bit claustrophobic- first time ever really. I am not afreiad of heights or small places and i have been climbing in between cracks of rocks with barely enough room for me and the clothes on my back. But those first couple nights i had to have the rain fly on, and had to leave the rain fly door flap open so i could "see" outside-felt better. After 2 nights i got used to it and have no problem now. Infact its comforting
--not really enough room for a big backpack inside with you, but it fits nicly under the storeage are on the side of the tent.



ps theres a spitfire two thats bigger and its only about a pound more. If you CANT get over the smaller one i would get the two person. I have thought about it my self for the room for pack and gear, but i have gotten to used to mine.
 
I'm interested in this too. With a bivvy, is there a condensation issue? Do they usually have a bug screen?

There is a condensation issue with many, perhaps most, but not all. The best ones have a very slight fuzzy lining on the inside, which absorbs moisture, spreads a smaller amount over a larger area, and wicks it through to the outside.

Most bivys have bug screens. In some, they are removable.

The best bivy, in my experience (and I've used a lot of them), is the Bibler Big Wall Bivy.
 
I have a sportsmans guide bivy and really it's fairly heavy and also it did NOT keep me totally dry.

My problem with most bivvies is that for my wife and I both to carry one it is lighter to carry our small tent(3lbs)

Outdoor Research makes two person Bivies.
 
I've tested and use an Integral Designs Bugaboo Bivy
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& The new Proforce Gear Stratosphere Bivy Shelter
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All my life I've used tents and still prefer them for short hike-in, multi-day stay or multi-person adventures. EVERYONE prefers room to move around but I also don't like getting ragged out at the end of a difficult 15 mile day trek with loads of gear- hence, the Bivy. The Bugaboo is is my go-to for fast light stuff (including biking) but the Stratosphere Bivy Shelter is much more comfortable.
To appreciate what a Bivy experience is, I recommend you simply use a sheet to wrap yourself fairly tightly just a little room (9" pulled away from your chest say) . Sleep the night in that, that's what it's like. It's a whole other thing to do it in Sub-freezing temps. Indeed- I find that my Bivies, used properly with the right bag inside (or without in Hot Rainy Summers) keep you warmer in the very coldest of temps (because you can't take your clothes of in them and ther'es less air around you. They are of course, more damp the next morning inside. I absolutely hate them in Hot Humid Climes and prefer a hammock & Mosquito netting instead. For Emergency use, a huge Black HD garbage bag works as a partial bivvy too.
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How about thoughts on bivys versus solo tents? I'm sure that's been talked about before, but not in a while at least :)

It seems to me that the difference between a bivy and a solo tent is a lot less room for a little less weight. Is it worth it? Is it better to just get a small solo tent? They all seem to weigh 3.5-4 lbs.

My bivy weighs about a pound, which is 2.5 to 3 pounds lighter than the small solo tent weight you state. It also packs up much smaller, which allows for a smaller pack, which weighs less. And it takes a smaller ground cloth (if you use a ground cloth) and fewer tent pegs, which further leads to less weight.

Is it worth it? That depends on a lot of factors; only you can really decide whether it is worth it to you. I often use a bivy, and I often use a small solo tent, depending on the trip.
 
Least expensive: Camo bivy from The Sportsman's Guide (Guide Gear brand) - This bivy cost under $30. The material is the same on the top and bottom, and is a lightweight coated nylon ripstop. It has a zipper on the right side, and a bug-proof mesh face net. Around the net is a thin wire sewn inside the edge of the body of the bag. The wire allows you to shape the net around the opening so it doesn't lay on your face.

This bivy is quite tight. It rolls however the bag rolls. The zipper is short and entry and exit are a little awkward. A plus to this bag is that I believe it is somewhat breathable, as I have not experienced any condensation inside. I have not used this bag out in the elements by itself. I have used it with a summer weight bag under a tarp shelter when temps dipped below the comfort range of the bag. It works ok, but as mentioned, it is constrictive and awkward to enter/exit. Bottom line: It was worth $30.
I have intentions of buying one of those this summer- Sportsmans Guide was solde out last time I checked. It would probably be lightyears better than my Guide Gear "trekking tent"- I'll post a review of that later.
 
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