Lets talk spears, need to source a spear shaft--

hey Cul, that sounds great! Maybe you can teach me a few basics and I can show you Chinese archery if you'd like. The range we go to is pretty chill and no one has given anyone any trouble for having weapons other than bows and arrows. I've made plenty of equipment exchanges there.

That sounds great, but the staffs up here are going for $36 plus tax. I have not bought a staff in over 25 years, I've heard that a lot of the staffs know are treated, and are no longer totally "white", like the one below:

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They now have dark spots in sporadic spots on the shaft, and especially on the tip. The one I saw online was that type. The ones online are only about $26 each, and they ship directly to you, which is very convenient.

I have spoken to my usual retired supplier, and he says that a place in Oakland, CA, may still carry the all white wax wood staffs. I just called and the owner says the cost is $36 each.

If you would like me to pick them up, I can, I need to know how many. Also, when do you want them by, because I do not know when the next person will be going down to SoCal, but somebody will surely drive down before the end of summer 2017. I will probably visit my brother in SD sometime before school starts for my daughter on 08/15/2017.

I would love to learn Chinese Archery, and I can surely show you the Choy Li Fut basics of staff handling. My specialty is hand forms, and swords/daggers, etc..., but I am decent with the staff/spear.

PS...Wax wood becomes extraordinarily beautiful after much use, my personal staff which I have used exclusively for over 30 years, at least twice a week for a minimum of 1/2 an hour, has resulted in the staff becoming as smooth and glossy as glass, and staining of the wood with natural body oils from my hands. It becomes a part of you after many years, and there is a blissful peace when handling "your" staff...:)
 
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Try bamboo. It's a traditional haft for your type of spear.
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SCA hardsuit used rattan for spear. Similar to bamboo with fibrous core, fairly flexible and resilient, less likely to snap taking a charge than wood. At longer length a little springy, but instead of wild thrusts learned to place point before driving through and then pole flex helps penetration (except SCA was blunt for safety;).
 
Cul, that looks like a Kris Cutlery Chinese spear head?

I'm gonna go ahead and just order it online, thanks so much for offering to bring it down to me! If I have any issues finding a good shaft, I'll let you know =)

Regardless, please let me know if you'd like to meet up in So Cal. for a spear and archery exchange. Actually I see you are in the Bay Area. My friends are the owners of Cinnabar Bows, the company that imports them from their bowyer Mr. Mariner in China, and they are based in the Bay Area. I don't get to visit the Bay often enough but when I do I make sure to go shoot with them. They are actually past kung fu practitioners too so perhaps you've come across them.

I'd love to just pick up some basic spear handling any day!
 
Cul, that looks like a Kris Cutlery Chinese spear head?

It is indeed, you have good eyes. It was made about 12 - 15 years ago, and it came razor sharp. I think they only sell unsharpened spear heads now, but I could be in error.

I have the practice aluminum heads too, so that I can teach my daughter.

I will try to swing by your friends place one day, I never got into Chinese archery, but It would be fun to learn.

Next time I'm down in SoCal, I'll let you know, and we can meet.
 
Sounds good!

Whenever you'd like to meet Cinnabar Bows or the Bay Area Asian Archery group, let me know. They know a heck of alot more about traditional archery than me and the authors of the 1637 Gao Ying Ming dynasty military archery translation are in that community. I
 
Osage Orange; hickory; ash; yew (poisonous)
Osage would be an awesome spear! You might find one from a bow stave seller? Length may be a problem tho? My friends tell me it grows in my county but I havent seen any. I made some spears of red cedar saplings and fire hardened the tips and they were awesome as far as handling. I never had one with a steel point. I do want to forge one and will prolly do so soon.

Thanks all for the input. This probably won't be my only spear.

We are starting to see a coyote and mountain lion encroachment issue here even in Orange a county California.

If I need to defend my family and yard from an attack, I'll probably have a longer shaft and lighter (faster) spear head.

Id recommend an atlatl for them critters. That way you wont have to get so close to them. I keep a dozen of them or more on hand ready to go.
 
I'm impressed by all, truly. I do have a 5" giant alligator gig on a hard hickory pole. I haven't tried it yet but it sounds fun. It's tempered and hardened at the tips for the task at hand. I'd like to try it down here in Florida some time.
 
I'm impressed by all, truly. I do have a 5" giant alligator gig on a hard hickory pole. I haven't tried it yet but it sounds fun. It's tempered and hardened at the tips for the task at hand. I'd like to try it down here in Florida some time.

Pics or it dint happen BB. You know the story! Oh your not home.. OK. We can wait. Enjoy your Mom! I have a frog gig. Is it like an alligator rig? I used to use the live gig. Sorta like a clamp on a stick with a trigger in the middle. I liked catching them live and stuff them in a toe sac. never used a gator gig tho?
 
...I have a frog gig. Is it like an alligator gig?...

Here's my gator gig (I might have to lengthen the handle and put barbs on the tips) :D

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Pics or it dint happen BB. You know the story! Oh your not home.. OK. We can wait. Enjoy your Mom! I have a frog gig. Is it like an alligator rig? I used to use the live gig. Sorta like a clamp on a stick with a trigger in the middle. I liked catching them live and stuff them in a toe sac. never used a gator gig tho?

He's posted pictures of it before. I wanted one too. I'm sure Meister Tall is already looking for it.
 
No way I'm making any attempt to fill your shoes even at that gnormous salary.
 
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You want the 1" OD, 1/8" wall structural tubing, 10 footer cut down to about six foot shaft not including blade..Straight, strong, paint with epoxy resin and then UV resistant topcoat...Fill with gap fillig foam. Best of the best...Wood will only warp, break, shrink and aggravate the hell out of you..
 
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