Licensed copy or otherwise?

I'm assuming this is a fake

What do you mean by that? What is fake about these knives?


unless the bk 2 was licensed to them which I'm 99% sure didn't happen..

Why do you believe these copies need to be licensed?



I'm pretty sure amazon can not do this so I thought I would show you all... if for some reason they can or this isn't technically a copy then information is welcome! went through the sellers other items and seems like he has more than just this one

It is a copy, but that doesn't necessarily makes it an illegal copy.

Knives in general are not protected by copyright laws, except in rare circumstances - unique, one of a kind artworks, or only part of the knife ie unique graphic ornaments on handles or blade, etc.

Knives can be protected either by design or utility patents for limited time period (15 and 20 years respectively). Neither of these protections apply to Becker BK-2 (that I know of after quick patent search).

Some unique design aspects of the knives can be protected by trademarks.
And of course, brand names and logos as well.

I could find only two registered and active trademarks related to Becker Knife and Tool
1.) Becker Knife & Tool (wordmark) and
2.) Becker Knives "work for a living" (wordmark)

There's no registered Becker Handle trademark (that I could find), although even unregistered, it enjoys some of the protections. That would be up to the courts to determine whether this handle copy is sufficiently different or if trademark protection would apply.

So, in short, these knives on Amazon are most likely legal copies. Not that I agree with that, but that's how it is.

Also, what you wrote can constitute a libel.


The best you can do is to notify Mr. Becker. He will most likely know if there's something that can warrant legal action.

As for me, I buy only original Beckers.
 
Just helping where I can help, and reading all day long. I am a prolific learner, and I learn more by interacting than I do from accepting statements as "gospel".

Anything wrong with the last two posts here? I think they contributed more to the OP's question than answering your post.
still didn't answer a simple question how are you going to open a knife sharping service if you just 13 hours before asked a super basic question on knife sharping?
 
What do you mean by that? What is fake about these knives?

The signature becker handle as well as appearing to be a stripped bk 2 in grind blade and edge geometry

Why do you believe these copies need to be licensed?

Because i thought Becker or Ethan must of had patent on these kinds of things and I assume that if so this would infringe upon it



It is a copy, but that doesn't necessarily makes it an illegal copy.

Yup that's why I asked

Knives in general are not protected by copyright laws, except in rare circumstances - unique, one of a kind artworks, or only part of the knife ie unique graphic ornaments on handles or blade, etc.

Knives can be protected either by design or utility patents for limited time period (15 and 20 years respectively). Neither of these protections apply to Becker BK-2 (that I know of after quick patent search).

Some unique design aspects of the knives can be protected by trademarks.
And of course, brand names and logos as well.

I could find only two registered and active trademarks related to Becker Knife and Tool
1.) Becker Knife & Tool (wordmark) and
2.) Becker Knives "work for a living" (wordmark)

There's no registered Becker Handle trademark (that I could find), although even unregistered, it enjoys some of the protections. That would be up to the courts to determine whether this handle copy is sufficiently different or if trademark protection would apply.

So, in short, these knives on Amazon are most likely legal copies. Not that I agree with that, but that's how it is.

Also, what you wrote can constitute a libel.

Thx for the heads up I edited my post however I think a libel is where one slanders against someone else in writing and my post was stating that it looked like a Becker and asking whether it was legal and whether or not amazon or eBay could carry it since if my memory serves me correct spyderco is in a case over something similar

The best you can do is to notify Mr. Becker. He will most likely know if there's something that can warrant legal action.

As for me, I buy only original Beckers.
Thx for the info man appreciate it! I just underlined above what I said cause I don't feel like quoting you that many time lol
 
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I just "asked the community a question." Quick, go to the amazon page and answer it. Let's slam them with answers that either rip them up, or in the vest least are funny.

OK i checked. The question is posted. Go ahead. rip 'em up guys!
Boy you catch on quickly ;)
 
still didn't answer a simple question how are you going to open a knife sharping service if you just 13 hours before asked a super basic question on knife sharping?

Sir,
Is your attention span so short or your inability to follow simple forum guidelines so overpowering that you have to sling sarcastic, and pointless questions at complete strangers?

Pointless sarcasm...

Let me ask YOU something.
Did you read the title of this thread? If so... how do your two posts apply here?
 
Warrior,
I noticed in your other thread that someone had contacted Becker directly.

Was there ever a reply or follow up that you know of?
 
Then it's back to the same circular conversation...
There has to be a recourse for the intellectual property owner or there is NO reason to claim ownership, and pay for the privilege of doing so.

If it's like a "finger in the dyke" thing... then why even bother registering an idea/design/trademark/patent?

This has me totally confused.
SOOOOOO much outcry yet it continues.
 
It's probably fair to say the "powers that be" are aware of the situation, if not before this thread, then now at least. I'd imagine if it's actionable it'll be actioned, gotta protect yer nuts and all. Let's us try to stay on topic.
 
It's probably fair to say the "powers that be" are aware of the situation, if not before this thread, then now at least. I'd imagine if it's actionable it'll be actioned, gotta protect yer nuts and all. Let's us try to stay on topic.

That is what I believe to be the most important part of these threads.
The actions or lack of actions that come from them.

There is little point in discussing these issues (other than entertainment value) if it is all shear speculation.
 
Thanks to you all I am aware and it is a completely unauthorized rip off...... I will be talking to Olean about this..... A cease and desist will, I suspect, be in the offing.....

Thanks for posting on this......

E
 
Thanks to you all I am aware and it is a completely unauthorized rip off...... I will be talking to Olean about this..... A cease and desist will, I suspect, be in the offing.....

Thanks for posting on this......

E

Now THAT is how these threads are supposed to go.

IMO
 
Thanks to you all I am aware and it is a completely unauthorized rip off...... I will be talking to Olean about this..... A cease and desist will, I suspect, be in the offing.....

Thanks for posting on this......

E
Of course! That's what I thought just wanted to make sure all y'all were aware of it
 
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