Light Chopper (prototype)

Nathan the Machinist

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This was a collaboration with Lorien Arnold. It is an exercise in geometry and weight distribution to make a light weight chopper that hits above its weight. It's a large woods knife, light chopper, with a 10" blade that weighs 16 oz. It's somewhere between a machete and a camp knife. This is a prototype, I'll be making some in 3V in a few weeks.


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[video=youtube;bpZEvM0vq3s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpZEvM0vq3s[/video]

~16 total length, ~10" blade, 16.0 oz, balances about an inch into the blade
 
Pretty.. Love the fuller and that sort of high saber grind..Is this 1/4" thick?

When we first conceived this project we both had 1/4" in mind, but within the constraints of the blade geometry and mass, the characteristic I was looking for worked better with 3/16".
 
Any idea what the rough price on these will be?

It's a big knife, it won't be inexpensive. But it will be competitive with other high end choppers. I'll send you a PM with some information.
 
What is the effective difference between the prototypes in A2 and the ones you'll run later in 3V? I love me some A2...but I've had solid luck with fixed blades in 3V as well.
 
What is the effective difference between the prototypes in A2 and the ones you'll run later in 3V? I love me some A2...but I've had solid luck with fixed blades in 3V as well.

A2 is a very good middle of the road steel with better corrosion resistance and wear resistance than things like 1095 and probably tougher too. It's a great tool steel. I have run some knives in the past with high grades of A2 with really dialed in HT that has phenomenal fine edge stability and edge retention in a small EDC kind of knife but that's not what these prototypes are, they're just regular A2 with a normal HT.

3V is like D2 in that it can be heat treated in different ways to have different properties that goes well beyond just different Rockwell hardness's. Generally speaking it is more abrasion resistant and tougher than A2, though if the aus temp is bumped to get a better crisper edge that toughness goes down some. Tweaks to the HT are complex because if you change one thing, like the aus temp, and don't change other things like the quench rate and quench depth, some tweaks can have the opposite of the intended effect.

I haven't finalized the HT on the 3V for these choppers but it's going to be geared towards total toughness with reduced mushy edge for better edge retention in rough chopping rather than maximizing abrasive wear resistance or fine edge stability.

But to sum up, in this application the 3V will be tougher, more corrosion resistant and better wear resistance than A2, with about the same edge stability except at gross impacts (such as cutting through a nail) where it will suffer less edge damage with a shiny microchipped edge rather than a big chip. In normal use the primary advantage to 3V is less rust and a long edge life in abrasive things. Where it really shines is when the user steps it up a notch into "rough" use where it has a larger functional window. This also buys you some insurance when cutting near rocky soil and you might hit a rock, or barbwire grown into a tree etc.

All that said, A2 is so far beyond the spring steels often used in something like a machete that for most folks it's really all you'd ever need in a big bush knife.
 
[video=youtube;K9Fp8WcEQlU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9Fp8WcEQlU[/video]

[video=youtube;giuV5gHorl4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giuV5gHorl4[/video]

[video=youtube;eYl4Q9NRMkI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYl4Q9NRMkI[/video]
 
[video=youtube;6y1DEyzQroY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6y1DEyzQroY[/video]

[video=youtube;W-e0B8RSsKY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-e0B8RSsKY[/video]
 
That's a fine piece of A2 steel. How'd the edge look after the video?

It wasn't noticeably dulled (chopping through a 2X4 and shaving hair really isn't a big deal) but I did manage to put a little wave in it. A2 can be a high performance material in many ways but this prototype was a pretty standard middle-of-the-road HT for it. The production knife will be 3V with an optimized heat treat that will support a thin edge in rough use.
 
Dan shot some video

[video=youtube;TvUsh5FijcY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvUsh5FijcY[/video]
 
Any further progress on this? Wheres that other guy who got one of these and was supposed to a review on this knife? Not Lorien, the other guy who was supposed to get one of these? Im still trying to see some nice HD pics of this in use.. or HD vid..batoning,etc..
 
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Any further progress on this? Where that other guy who got one of these and was supposed to a review on this knife? Not, Lorien, the other guy who got one of these? Im still trying to see some nice HD pics of this in use.. or HD vid..batoning,etc..

It's in development. I'm starting a small batch of tweaked prototypes in 3V to validate the updated design and heat treat.
 
I also would like to be added to list of people you DM when you have more info on the cost of this knife when you are done with your testing.
 
Very interested in your work Nathan. I'll keep checking back as to when something is available for purchase.
 
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