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3L3M3NT

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I normally don't post much and just lurk around the forums here, but I just couldn't help myself when I see the price gouging that goes on when a sprint run is released. People are buying the maximum number of knives they can during a sprint run release and then a few days later when people receive their knives they purchased, they end up posting them for sale for $20-30 more than they bought them for. Or in some cases that I've seen almost a $100 markup on a brand new sprint run that was just released. Heck, there was even one guy on Facebook bragging that he bought 6 knives by using two accounts he had, how :poop:

IMO that's just being greedy and immoral to be taking advantage of other knife enthusiasts who were unable to purchase that knife due to being at work or any number of reasons why they couldn't get near a computer, laptop, or phone.

Now if Spyderco, ZT, Benchmade, etc. stipulated that stores selling their limited edition/sprint run knives could only sell one knife per customer, it would allow more people to enjoy their knifes versus people hoarding limited edition/sprint run for a profit.

Maybe if enough people email Spyderco, ZT, Benchmade, etc about limiting sales of limited edition/sprint run knives to only one knife per customer, they will change their policy :thumbsup: One can only hope:)
 
Flippers gonna flip. It ticks me off too, but I would think even with a limit, they will still find a way (multiple accounts, friends/family addresses). They do it for a reason and that's because the market keeps paying their stupid prices. The real solution is for everybody to stop blowing into the bubble wand, so the bubble doesn't get so big(don't support flips).
 
It think it would be good if they did batches instead of one big hyped release like instead of selling what 500-1000 in one day, maybe a it a week long thing and sell max of ~200 a day or something that way people have more of a chance than some black friday-esque frenzy that bogs down their servers and leave way more people annoyed. But as Sigsog226 Sigsog226 stated (btw dude, your pup looks like he needs some positive experiences or at least his ball back :P ), flippers gonna flip, multiple accounts/addresses/using friends&family, the best thing you can do is not pay 2nd hand overpriced and let them sit on their knives.
 
I would think though with a limit of one would definitely make it more difficult for them to acquire as many knives as they do at the moment with a limit of 3. I know you're always gonna have the people trying to beat the system, but lets no make it so easy for them. It's like locking your car...it keeps the honest people honest and it makes things difficult for the crooks. I think the same thing holds true for 99% of things that are sold out there with a limit.

I was lucky enough to purchase one from BHQ, but I still feel bad for the other people out there that missed the boat and now have to get raked over the coals if they want to pick one up. :(
 
As much as I dont like the practice of flipping, why would manufacturers want to limit each customer to be able to buy just one knife of a highly demanded sprint run? In fact, one can argue that flipping an already hyped model can make it even more hyped, and hence benefiting the manufacturer.
 
b00n b00n lol! She's actually yawning in that pic, but it came out funny :)
I remember when the PS3(video game system) was coming out, it was a $300-400 console being flipped for $1200-2500 around Christmas. Just like Elmo before that, beanie babies, etc..

What I think what stopped that was the whole 'black friday flood gate hours' stopped, and Sony making more product for everybody at its initial release the next time around.

Knife companies could do this too, but could have repercussions for them. Unlike Sony who can afford to make too many consoles and are able to sell them soon after, i would think the knife industry is alot more unpredictable.
 
Porsche had a decent enough idea. Stop limiting the exclusive cars. I mean how amusing would it be if BHQ announced in a week that they will keep getting the Jade M4's in batches. Have fun with your 6 "limited exclusives". I mean KW does it with their exclusives.
 
Honda Civic Type R 2017 ($27,000) is now $39,000 in 2018, or about $6,000 above the MSRP of $33,000 straight from the dealers. Only two alloted per at the moment.

We be gettin flipped by the guvmint and those dirty dealers too! :eek::mad::thumbsdown:
 
It’s a flipping shame I tell ya :rolleyes:
I really don’t get why folks get so bent over something getting flipped I really don’t . If it bothers you don’t buy it and move on . If someone wants it that bad and is willing to pay the price good for him .
If someone flips and gets a top price good for him to.
Seriously can’t get a grasp on why there is so much hatred it seriously blows my mind and to a point I’m starting find it humorous lol . Sorry to all the flipper hunters out there but thats my take and 2 cents .
If you dislike me for my opinion then so be it but that’s my take like it or not .
I’ve flipped before and have also bought at flipper prices and was grateful to get what I was searching for and no one twisted my arm it was my choice and glad the option was there .
 
Don't make me flip out on you. :p

My whole point is what if knife flipping didn't happen to the extreme levels that it does right now... instead of a mad dash to purchase one(or three), it was spread over the entire week and gave everyone that wanted to purchase that knife an equal shot. I have no doubt that they would still sell out of the knife, it would just take a little longer.

Heck, lets go the other way with flipping and not put a limit on the number of knives one can purchase. I'm sure someone with deep pockets would scoop up as many as they could afford and then start selling them at whatever price they wanted. We do live in a capitalist society after all and it should be dog eat dog kind of mentality in the end and screw everyone else.

In the end we're all knife enthusiasts and I believe everyone should have a fair shake at purchasing a knife during a 1200 piece sprint run release and then after that if people wanna flip the one knife they purchased, then that's their prerogative.
 
b00n said:
Porsche had a decent enough idea. Stop limiting the exclusive cars. I mean how amusing would it be if BHQ announced in a week that they will keep getting the Jade M4's in batches. Have fun with your 6 "limited exclusives". I mean KW does it with their exclusives.
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Your describing a limited unlimited and if BHQ had made it very clear BEFORE they went on sale that they would be a limited unlimited then the DLC Para 2 wouldn't have sold out nearly as fast because there would be a never ending supply..its basically a regular production knife only available thru one dealer.

They advertised these as a one shot deal to spur sales and IMO they should stick to their word. Lying and bait and switch tactics aren't cool at all

Personally I could care less if some dude makes $20 by "flipping" a knife..if that's all I've got to worry about in this world then I need to get a life.
 
ToxicBot11 said:
Your describing a limited unlimited and if BHQ had made it very clear BEFORE they went on sale that they would be a limited unlimited then the DLC Para 2 wouldn't have sold out nearly as fast because there would be a never ending supply..its basically a regular production knife only available thru one dealer.

They advertised these as a one shot deal to spur sales and IMO they should stick to their word. Lying and bait and switch tactics aren't cool at all

Personally I could care less if some dude makes $20 by "flipping" a knife..if that's all I've got to worry about in this world then I need to get a life.
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I don't disagree with you. Like I said, I don't care all that much about it. I find flipping/scalping douchey behavior, but it's not costing me any sleep.
 
ToxicBot11 said:
Your describing a limited unlimited and if BHQ had made it very clear BEFORE they went on sale that they would be a limited unlimited then the DLC Para 2 wouldn't have sold out nearly as fast because there would be a never ending supply..its basically a regular production knife only available thru one dealer.

They advertised these as a one shot deal to spur sales and IMO they should stick to their word. Lying and bait and switch tactics aren't cool at all

Personally I could care less if some dude makes $20 by "flipping" a knife..if that's all I've got to worry about in this world then I need to get a life.
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What set me off was when I saw a guy post 2 brand new PM2s with the DLC coated blade and Jade scales for $275 each. To me that's pitiful when a fellow knife enthusiast would mark up each knife by $100, so he can profit off the people that missed out on the sale.
 
3L3M3NT said:
What set me off was when I saw a guy post 2 brand new PM2s with the DLC coated blade and Jade scales for $275 each. To me that's pitiful when a fellow knife enthusiast would mark up each knife by $100, so he can profit off the people that missed out on the sale.
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That is outrageous but only as guilty as the one that would pay it .
 
3L3M3NT said:
What set me off was when I saw a guy post 2 brand new PM2s with the DLC coated blade and Jade scales for $275 each. To me that's pitiful when a fellow knife enthusiast would mark up each knife by $100, so he can profit off the people that missed out on the sale.
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Nor do I lol
Loose any sleep over it and actually to the point of finding it humorous from reactions on both side of the fence .
 
3L3M3NT said:
What set me off was when I saw a guy post 2 brand new PM2s with the DLC coated blade and Jade scales for $275 each. To me that's pitiful when a fellow knife enthusiast would mark up each knife by $100, so he can profit off the people that missed out on the sale.
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Had to go find the FS thread..one thing to note is that the price is now down to $235 and still not sold..market correction at work.

With the huge number of those made..it wasn't 1200, it was somewhere in the 2300 to 2500 range..anyone who thinks they are going to buy a couple then instantly make $100 per knife the very next day doesn't understand supply and demand at all. Its wayy to soon to try that..now a few years down the road? Maybe $275 wont seem to unreasonable. This pic by BHQ gives a idea how many were made..a lot..
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Hrmm, after reading some of the responses here I'd say hate the game don't hate the players.

People willingly going to pay twice or even three times the sticker price for one of those ZT 0777 with the Damascus spine on the secondary market. As far as I know, I'd still call that "flipping" even if it has been like what, 5 to 6 years now? But it seems perfectly reasonable cause of their rarity and value in the eyes of the enthusiast.

There's always going to be a supply demand relationship going on regardless of one per customer or not. Sure it might be more fair if these guys "played" by the rules and only purchased one for themselves and left the rest for others. But if they have the funds to drop on buying multiple through legitimate methods... I guess it's still their money and they can do as they please. Yes, I agree it's a little dirty buying multiple with the sole purpose of profiting from others, but the demand is there.
 
ToxicBot11 said:
Had to go find the FS thread..one thing to note is that the price is now down to $235 and still not sold..market correction at work.

With the huge number of those made..it wasn't 1200, it was somewhere in the 2300 to 2500 range..anyone who thinks they are going to buy a couple then instantly make $100 per knife the very next day doesn't understand supply and demand at all. Its wayy to soon to try that..now a few years down the road? Maybe $275 wont seem to unreasonable. This pic by BHQ gives a idea how many were made..a lot..
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Do you know that’s how many of those were made or are you just guesstimating ? I’m just curious because didn’t think there were that many made.
 
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