Line of Tenacious-like knives?

fp_tourist said:
China is making strides against communism, but they're still under communist rule.
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My apologies for the confusion.

I realize that China is still considered a Communist country, politically speaking.

Economically speaking, they are not. They are a mixed economy, with roots in some socialist principles, some capitalist principles. That's the only point I'm trying to make.
 
I agree with the made in the USA folks. I do buy Japan knives and cars and China goods, but I go out of my way not to buy China goods. Our country is in deep trouble and it didn't matter which puppit got elected the trouble will get worse!
 
Why is it so hard for people to understand that political posts are not allowed in the General Knife Discussion forum.

No more warnings will be issued, but infractions for political posts here will be handed out.
 
I think y'all missed my point. I am not anti-China. I am not anti-Japan. I buy products made in China. I have bought knives made in China. (I don't carry them, but I did buy them.)

The OP wanted to know if I would like to see Spyderco expand their Chinese line. My response is that I would rather see Spyderco produce quality knives in the US, using US alloys and do it at the same price they charge for their current Japanese-made knives such as the Delica and Endura..

This should be do-able. The cost structure in Japan is very similar to that in the US. If the Japanese can make a knife with good steel,etc and I can buy it online for about $50, why cannot I buy one made in USA for about the same price?

I can buy a USA-made Buck knife with 154CM steel for about $60.
I can buy a Benchmade USA-made knife with 154CM steel for about $60.
I want to be able to buy a Spyderco with good US steel made in USA for about $60.

Yes, I know the Native fits this description. We were talking about Spyderco expanding its line. This is how I would like to see Spyderco expand. Obviously it isn't up to me. My opinion is worth squat. But that is what I would like to see.
 
I have an even better idea, why does'nt Spyderco move the Tenacious to the Byrd line and build knives of this quality and style under the Byrd Moniker and leave Spyderco to the USA and Japanese made knives.
I have no problem buying a Chinese knife from a company that specializes in Chinese knives (Rough Rider)(Byrd) but I will not buy a Chinese Spyderco although it looks like the writing is already on the wall. I really don't beleive this is what Steve Gartan had in mind.
 
Sal,
I meant Steve Gartin, of Sporting Blades magazine and one time salesman for Spyderco. I may have been mislead on his input into the company during his tenure, if so I appolagise at my ignorance. But I would really like to see Spyderco upgrade the Byrd line and take the Spyderco line back to USA and Japan made knives.
 
Maybe when people realize they can get quality made knives for 20-30 dollars, once-great companies like Gerber will get their act together.

Inexpensive, well-made knives also keep companies competitive and drive prices down.
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I have the Tenacious and it is a super knife and I would welcome an expansion of that design. The steel is quite good. That said, things made in China have the advantage of artifically low price due to the pegging of the yaun to the dollar to purposely create an export advantage (just one of several issues). The comment above is quite right in theory but the uneven playing field is a problem that voids the idea that if American manufactures just woke up.....its much more involved/complicated than that.

Anyway, I would like to see a full line of Tenacious knives and if they are American made and slightly more expensive...I'll buy it. By the way Sal I love 154cm.
 
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Yeah......I'm gonna stick to the Traditional forum from here on out.

It's THE MOST laid back comfortable area on this entire forum

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I do own a Tenacious because it was given to me.
 
Wow, guys, I didn't mean to start a political flame war here! I guess I should have known it was a touchy issue. :foot::o Bottom line, I really like the Tenacious, and would be interested in similar knives.

P.S. Sal, I had forgotten that you participated in this forum!
 
j.bowie said:
I guess tanacious is a touchy subject.
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It shouldn't be...some can't seem to find the appropriate place to voice their political views. They don't mean any harm...but their passion gets the best of them. :p


I liked the Tenacious. It's a good solid knife at an attractive price. I don't really care if there is a continued "line" of Chinese made Spyderco knives. I've owned Spydercos from the USA...China..Japan..Taiwan. Make quality knives and if I like the design and materials...I'll buy it. I don't go any deeper than that in my thought process for a purchase.
 
Hi STDK,

No problem on my end. Haven't heard Steve's name in some time. He left Spyderco about 20 years ago. He was a a very good salesman, and an exceptional martial artist.

Hey Frostyfingers,

It seems that many feel strongly about Chinese manufacture. Looking at the problems created from jobs to knock offs, I can't say that I blame them.

We do have one other model that will be made in the same factory as the Tenacious. It's a bit smaller. We also have a "branding" model (1-1/4" blade slipit) in-the-works. That's our plan for Chinese manufacture in the "Tenacious" line.

We'd rather not make many Spyderco brand pieces in China. That's what byrd is for, but competition has forced some issues, and survival is primary.

Hi Flatlander,

Our plan is to increase USA production, especially in lower cost models. We purchae new equipment all of the time. However, we couldn't produce a tough quality G-10 linerlock, like the Tenacious, in the US at a "slightly" higher cost. The Yuan / dollar variance is too great.

As the Yuan strengthens, the playing field will change, but for now, China is very difficult to compete with price-wise.

sal
 
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