Linton Killing Claw?????

The loop on the opposite end of the blade does aid in retention. When holding a karambit with the pinkie finger in the loop, it's strictly for retention.

When it's held with the index finger through the loop in what some people would call a reverse grip it also allows for a 180 degree "flip" so the blade can be extended forward for a few additional inches. Granted, this isn't a very secure grip when the blade is extended, since you're grasping the knife only by its ring with your index finger, thumb and middle finger.

I don't claim to be an expert with one of these, and in a SHTF situation I certainly wouldn't be twirling one , just as I wouldn't be flipping a bali, either.
 
With the wonderfully mature and intelligent quote "Linton is gay", courtesy of rover, this thread just became ridiculous and useless. At least Danbo managed to turn that brilliant reply into something that made me laugh.
 
imho thats just plain wrong, if ya meet the criteria to use deadly force against someone, if ya are legally justified, it makes not one iota of difference what the tool/implement/firearm/etc is called.
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Were that that were true. But this is about what a jury concludes... and that involves emotion and perception.

At some point in your trial (and there will be trial), the defense attorney is going to hold the knife up in front of the jury and say, "Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, this is the knife which the state contends that the defendant used to murder the victim. This knife is a Linton Cutlery 'Killing Claw.'"

The name of the knife can become a factor in your case because it reflects your thinking, your motive, your mindset, your intent. A lot of what draws the line between murder and self-defense is motive, mindset, and intent.

There are simple questions such as why did you choose to buy that knife and why were you carrying it that are reasonable to ask and that help establish your motive and your intent.

Know this: the physical appearance, the style, the name of the knife you choose, and how the company you bought it from markets it can easily become factors in a trial.
 
I've been lurking around this thread for a couple days, and gotten a chuckle or two ("linton is gay" so eloquent, thats poetry) So I went to the linton website. Granted that I had to check out the google cached version because the actual site would not load. The quote for the killing claw is great, as are all of their product descriptions:
Why Linton create this knife ? Since we design the deinonychus for the tactical knife market; of course we should intorduce you his claw. This is why his nickname "Terrible Claw" or "Killing Claw" comes from. So we start from the concept of this claw. As you see his claw already is a perfect nature weapon so we just copy from it.
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Apparently this is the little brother of deinonychus or some such.
My opinion of Linton from first glance is not too high, and I'm not going by others reactions. I'd buy something else, but I have the feeling you have already reached that conclusion. Just my .02, not trying to ruffle any feathers.
Chris
 
J.Davey said:
With the wonderfully mature and intelligent quote "Linton is gay", courtesy of rover, this thread just became ridiculous and useless. At least Danbo managed to turn that brilliant reply into something that made me laugh.
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Sorry for my immaturity and lack of eloquence. Maybe your right. I should take a serious look at the "Killing Claw".

POS from a company with no morals whatsoever (i.e. they rip off other peoples designs). Buy from Linton and support unoriginality and theft.

Get a trainer. If you've got one start cutting those lawns and save up for a real karambit.
 
Rover, please grow up. I've always shown fellow forumites the utmost respect, but you're pushing my buttons. I really don't feel like trying to match wits with the witless, so just keep the comments to yourself. :rolleyes:
 
Gollnick, where can I find this design other than from Linton, or even a similar, slender one-piece kerambit? Can you point me in the right direction?
 
m_calingo said:
Why not consider getting Tarani karambit trainer?

The aluminum model goes for about forty bucks, the plastic one goes for less than half that. Yes, they won't cut, but that's the idea. You can twirl them all you want and keep your skin intact (you still might poke your eye out!)

This way you can get an idea if this will work out for you without spending the extra cash, and the trainers can still be used as non-lethal sd tools.
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Curse you m_calingo! Thanks for getting that idea in my head! Now my baby won't have any formula for a week! and it's your fault!
 
J.Davey said:
Rover, please grow up. I've always shown fellow forumites the utmost respect, but you're pushing my buttons. I really don't feel like trying to match wits with the witless, so just keep the comments to yourself. :rolleyes:
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I'm sorry I hurt your feelings.
 
J. Davey, even if the "Killing Claw" design is not copied, other ones are. I realy hope you chose to not give this company your money. Mucher better to get a trainer from a company with morals.
 
Gollnick, where can I find this design other than from Linton, or even a similar, slender one-piece kerambit? Can you point me in the right direction?
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I'm not a kerambit expert. That's Indonesian. I'd suggest that you try this question in the Practical Tactical forum. While the kerambit is Indonesian, there is a strong cross-over of interest with Filipino-style martial artists and kerambits are very popular right now, so you might also try in the Filipino Combative Arts forum.
 
Gollnick said:
At some point in your trial, the defense attorney is going to hold the knife up in front of the jury and say, "Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, this is the knife which the state contends that the defendant used to murder the victim. This knife is a Linton Cutlery 'Killing Claw.'"

The name of the knife can become a factor in your case because it reflects your thinking, your motive, your mindset, your intent. A lot of what draws the line between murder and self-defense is motive, mindset, and intent.
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Note: I'm not a lawyer so don't take my advice to court but...

I agree with you that it is possible to argue that the name of the knife is relevant, however that doesn't end the story. If the prosecution were to argue that the name of the knife was relevant, the defense should probably argue that the prejudicial effect of the evidence would far outweigh the probative value of the knife's name (aid in proving state of mind) and therefore the evidence should be inadmissible. Note that this argument would also be one that takes place in front of the judge (not the jury). If the objection is sustained, then the jury would never know the name of the knife.
 
The prosecutor doesn't even necessarily have to argue or try to get the name specifically admitted. All he has to do is hold the knife up for the jury and say, "This is the knife that the state accuses the defendant of using to kill the victim. It is made by Linton Cutlery and is the model known as the 'Linton Killing Claw.'" and the damage is done. That seed is not firmly planted in the minds of the jury.

The prosecutor could call a witness to identify the knife, "Officer Krupky, do you recognize this knife, exhibit #1?"

"Yes sir. That knife is made by Linton Cutlery Company. It is the model they call the 'Killing Claw,' and that specific 'Killing Claw' knife is the exact 'Killing Claw' knife that I found in the defendent's hand at the time of the incident. I recognize my tag on it."

"Thank you officer."

And, again, the seed is firmly planted.

Even if your attorney objects and the objection is sustained and the judge instructs the jury to disregard the name of the knife, the damage is already done.
 
Rover, it takes a lot more than silly comments to hurt my feelings. You're just being obnoxious and annoying. I'm just saying that if you can't contribute to the conversation in a mature way, don't bother contributing at all. And Gollnick, thanks for the suggestions. And to those who keep warning me against buying Linton, I have made it perfectly clear that I know they are rip-off artists, and if I could find another slim one-piece kerambit, I would definitely purchase that before the Linton. The problem is, I can't find one (although, I am looking at an MOD Scorpion...not a kerambit, but still nice and sleek). So, if anyone has any suggestions, let me know, please.
 
Try not to take things so seriously.

I am by no means an expert but I have trained with Mr. Tarani and I have experimented with almost all karambits on the market.

Linton rips off people I hold a very high regard for. If you buy from them you are supporting theft.

If none of the legitimate manufacturers of karambits can make one to fit your taste why don't you make one yourself? I find it hard to believe that you "need" the design features of the "killing claw".

There are better karambits out there that will fit your needs.










And yes, Linton is still gay.
 
Marcelo Cantu said:
Curse you m_calingo! Thanks for getting that idea in my head! Now my baby won't have any formula for a week! and it's your fault!
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Sorry Marcelo! At least I didn't try to push the Tarani fixed blade karambit...that one sells for $400!!!

(no baby formula ____ months???) :)
 
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