little outing

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i headed out again yesterday afternoon for another sort of survival kit test trip, and again didn't make it through to the morning.

BUT, this one was very different from the other two...

when i went out at about 3:30 it was about 34 degrees F, big difference from last time. then, the high was about 25 degrees. when i came back in at about 1:30, the temp had got down to 27 degrees, which was warmer than the high of the last trips.

this time, when i went out at 3:30 and found a spot, i didn't feel rushed at all. i felt totally relaxed. like i was doing this on purpose or something :rolleyes: i took a quick video clip and scrabled down the rocks to a fallen pine tree, pulling out some branches and knots (fatwood) for a fire. i carried them back to camp. i found a couple of small cedar trees lying down so i took those to camp too. i got my fire going with a piece of cotton cord soaked in wax with pine twigs and branches. i used my fiskars 14" hatchet to pound some of the branches out of the tree and to section up the cedar into manageable pieces. i just stuck it in my cargo pocket and carried it around with me.
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once i had my fire going i found some oak and started carving it into a spoon, but got bored with that quickly, so i ended up just sitting against a tree next to the fire for several hours. i was quite warm, so i opened up my jacket and relaxed.
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still bored, i pulled out my saw and cut up all the firewood to length. unfortunately, this only took about 10 minutes. i noticed that i didn't really have a whole lot of wood, so i took my hatchet back to the oak (downed, rotted outside, rock hard inside) and dragged several good sized chunks back to my spot. sectioned these up.

relaxed by the fire for a while more. at about 7:00 i decided that i was going to have some nourishment since i was feeling a little hungry. i broke out the coffee can billy and a tea bag and a jar of peanut butter. i love peanut butter for the woods, since it is calorie dense (avg about 100 calories per tablespoon) and it is nice and sweet, something i miss in the woods.
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a trick i figured out: when you want to make sure your pot is dry to prevent rust, stick it back in the fire to boil off any moisture left in it. it took me about 30 seconds with a good bed of coals. got the pot glowing red hot on the bottom too!

i finally dozed off around 9:30, but woke up at 10:00. i felt two or three snowflakes on my face, so i laid down (instead of sitting up against the tree) broke out the poncho and laid it over me. as an extra blanket. i was also wearing my airline blanket over my legs to keep the backs warm (the front of me was warmed by the fire). this worked incredibly well. a fleece blanket is a great piece of kit, and about 1/3 the weight of wool. i can't speak to how it retains warmth when wet or how it deals with sparks.

laid there for a while. at about 11:00 it started to snow for real, so i decided to sit up against the tree, wearing my poncho with my backpack between my knees. this kept me and my gear dry, and i was reasonable comfortable.

i dozed a little bit, and then i realized that i was running low on wood and wanted to kick the fire up nice and hot for more heat. i stuck my backpack under a small rock ledge to keep it dry (it was still snowing) and i stumbled back to the pine tree and gathered some more branches. tossed them on the fire and got it going pretty hot again.

sat next to it on the edge of a rock and dozed off again warming my feet. i woke up when i started to tip over to the side and fell on the ground (pretty funny looking back! just like in school...;) ). i realized my whole left leg was asleep so i stood up to get the blood back into it.

i decided then that i might as well come back to the house, since i had enjoyed my time in the woods and i had again learned a couple of things about my kit.

the woods this morning (edited to put in the right picture):
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big lesson learned:
those instant heat packs don't work! i seem to remember using them in the past years ago and they got pretty hot. these ones didn't get about 60 or so degrees (guessing). they were basically luke warm. i put them in my shoes to warm my toes, but they didn't help at all. maybe i got a bad batch or something, but these didn't work at all.

the main difference between this outing and the past was that i felt totally comfortable and at home in the woods, vs the last times when i felt like i was in hostile territory or something...i felt like i was fighting the woods. this time i felt like i was much more in harmony with the woods. i think i was more nervous the last times, this time i felt like i belonged.

so i still haven't spent a night out with my basic gear, but i enjoyed myself alot this time.
 
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Looking good man, even if you dont make it out over night, dont sweat it. When I was growing up I had a hatchet a lighter and a tarp with me, mind you I did most of my camping in the summer because I could keep things lighter overall, but the few winter excursions I had were short, and only ended up spending the night, then leaving early in the morning.

I think the main point is to get out and get more and more comfortable with your self while you out there, its helps a lot when and if something did really happen.
I look at a survival situation as an impromptu camping trip, nothing more nothing less.
 
Hey Siguy - thanks for the test of the hand warmers! I think I might have suggested that one. Sorry it was a bad suggestion but glad that you tried it out and reported on it. It sounds like you got what you wanted to out of this one rather than feeling as though nature won the challenge. Good stuff and nice fireside pictures. That rock ledge looks like the perfect heat reflector.
 
Good story Siguy. I like these posts of reflections on how the night went, problems faced, little surprises, accomplishments that would otherwise be meaningless if we weren't "out there", and the mini-review of things that worked and didn;t work. Good stuff!
 
Good post. I`m really enjoying all of the fire pictures lately. :thumbup:
 
Sometimes those chemical hand warmers won't get hot enough when used in shoes because they get starved for oxygen in there. You have to get the ones speficially made for feet.
 
Sometimes those chemical hand warmers won't get hot enough when used in shoes because they get starved for oxygen in there. You have to get the ones speficially made for feet.

+1 on this one. If they don't get air they are not as effective. We used them extensively up north and found that once they were packed away in a boot they did not get as warm. Back in a pocket though, they warmed up considerably.
 
I like that picture of you watching redneck TV. Given how comfortable you look, I'd say people might be hanging around you in a survival situation thinking it's so easy :-)

What I love are the sights of a warm fire, and the sounds at night try to listen for and identify different critters - owls, fox, etc.
 
it was really quiet last night, no wind, no animal sounds. it might be because they were all snuggled away ready for the snow...

when i came back in i sat up for another hour or two and i mixed around the handwarmers and they got a little warmer, but not much...
 
I've heard that those chemical handwarmers need some air flow to work properly, which always sounded kinda backwards to me. It seems like I've heard that keeping them in a pocket or in your boot prevents them from getting as hot as they could. Sounds backwards to me, but I've never had much luck with them either!

Great post man, makes me want to break out of here and do an overnighter myself :D
 
Like kgd said, that rock ledge looks ideal for reflecting the heat at you. You look so calm lounging in weather that most people avoid like the plague. Thanks for sharing your real-life experience.

About your billy can, does putting it in the fire over and over weaken it quickly? Does it look more prone to rust or burn-through heating it up red hot? Not that it's all that important because you can always find another can. Just curious.
 
Great job bro ... it aint easy being out there alone and in the cold.

I'm with you on the peanut butter ... I always pack some when I'm out.
 
wilson, the rock ledge worked great for a reflector. i'm thinking in the future i might try putting myself between the ledge and the fire, to hopefully get warmed from both sides... the can doesn't seem any more prone to rust or breaking, though i've only used this one a few times. i think as long as you let it cool slowly you shouldn't have any issues with it becoming brittle (it is probably mild steel anyways, so it wouldn't get hard when quenched).
 
Great pics and write up.

Wonder if a very basic shelter would make your time there even more comfortable. Any evergreens nearby that you could use for a roof on said shelter?

In my experience, the footwarmers can work okay, but you still need a good wool sock when heading outdoors in the cold.
 
wilson, the rock ledge worked great for a reflector. i'm thinking in the future i might try putting myself between the ledge and the fire, to hopefully get warmed from both sides...

Indeed, it looks awesome!:thumbup: Good idea to try for the next time :) Thanks for write-up! :thumbup:
 
Great stuff Simon, :thumbup:

…I give you credit for getting out there on some of the nastier :eek: nights we have had.

Keep it up my friend; we all enjoy hearing about your adventures. :D




"If you're not living on the edge, …you're taking up too much space."

Big Mike
 
I too found that those hand warmers didnt get as hot as i expected them to. I got my hands on some of those heat pads for when your muscle hurts. They do get hot, Im going to try one next time i go out again for the night.

Sasha
 
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