Lock Rock, what would you do?

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Tyronethepro

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I bought a Buck Vantage force a while back, it came from the box with a chipped blade, serious side to side play and some lock rock. I sent it to Buck, they warrantied it and I got a new knife back. But I have one problem. The new one, after about a week of carrying and light use has also developed lock rock. At this point, I'm not sure if I should just suck it up and use it or if I should try and send it back again. The blade moves forward and backward pretty close to an eighth of an inch. Folks, what are your thoughts?
 
That's enough movement that I would send it back.
 
Start carrying a fixed blade.
 
blade dude said:
And if the fixed blade develops blade play?
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Buy one of these...

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But CM I already have one of those grip strengtheners. I would be using a fixed blade, however a lot of times I work in areas where that would...frighten? some non knife people. Unless I went for something in the sub 7 inch area.
 
A new folder with lock-rock issues needs to be returned or exchanged. However, an old user that develops some up-and-down or side-to-side play, can usually be cured with some maintenance. For example, the Endura 4 that I use the most for outdoor and yard work develops play occasionally. When that happens, I take it completely apart, wash and rinse and dry all the parts, lube where appropriate, and reassemble. That solves 90% of the problem (not 100% because it IS an old knife that has seen a lot of use and wear, and that's just how it is). My hard user folders get disassembled, cleaned, and lubed regularly.
 
Tyronethepro said:
But CM I already have one of those grip strengtheners. I would be using a fixed blade, however a lot of times I work in areas where that would...frighten? some non knife people. Unless I went for something in the sub 7 inch area.
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The knife I carry is sub 7" ... Sharpened length is almost 6" and I open carry. No issues with anyone.
 
If the knife is a lockback then you can peen the lockbar to achieve solid lockup .
I did it to one of my Delica's , it's simple and easy to do .

Ken
 
CM I may regret asking, but what do you carry? The only fixed blade I carry when I'm in city limits is my CRKT Obake, and I love it, but for a work knife I fear the tip may be a bit too thin.
harronek, I may have to try that on a few of my other knives, but unfortunately the Vantage is a liner lock :(
 
Tyronethepro said:
CM I may regret asking, but what do you carry? The only fixed blade I carry when I'm in city limits is my CRKT Obake, and I love it, but for a work knife I fear the tip may be a bit too thin.
harronek, I may have to try that on a few of my other knives, but unfortunately the Vantage is a liner lock :(
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Olamic Terzuola M30

 
Tyronethepro said:
:eek:
That's a heck of a knife, and a heck of a price. It's a gorgeous blade, but may be a bit more than I need for an EDC. Still, awesome piece as always CM
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Overkill >

:D
 
This is why I dislike liner and frame locks. The market's saturated with them so of course I own a few, but I'd rather have just about any other lock type out there.

As far as the Vantage goes? I'd work it until it's a bit more pronounced; send it in for warranty replacement and then sell it.
 
I love frame locks, and is my # 1 choice of locks, over any other lock.

Buck is not exactly the highest of quality knives, any more either. No offense to any one.
 
link2derek said:
A new folder with lock-rock issues needs to be returned or exchanged. However, an old user that develops some up-and-down or side-to-side play, can usually be cured with some maintenance. For example, the Endura 4 that I use the most for outdoor and yard work develops play occasionally. When that happens, I take it completely apart, wash and rinse and dry all the parts, lube where appropriate, and reassemble. That solves 90% of the problem (not 100% because it IS an old knife that has seen a lot of use and wear, and that's just how it is). My hard user folders get disassembled, cleaned, and lubed regularly.
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I used to agree with this until I switched to an Opinel.

Nearly all folders I've owned have developed blade play of some sort...

...except the Opinel. This includes both vertical play and horizontal lock rock.

Of course, the lock will not prevent closure of you apply strong closing force. Easily avoided. But the design stands up to hard cutting forces better than any kind I've used.
 
Tyronethepro said:
I bought a Buck Vantage force a while back, it came from the box with a chipped blade, serious side to side play and some lock rock. I sent it to Buck, they warrantied it and I got a new knife back. But I have one problem. The new one, after about a week of carrying and light use has also developed lock rock. At this point, I'm not sure if I should just suck it up and use it or if I should try and send it back again. The blade moves forward and backward pretty close to an eighth of an inch. Folks, what are your thoughts?
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I've had enough Bucks that developed blade prematurely that I accept it as the unfortunate norm. IMO, they have some engineering problems to sort out either in design, materials, or production. I wouldn't hold out any hope that a replacement would fare any better.

If it were me, I would call them directly and ask how they could arrange a refund of your purchase price. Of course, you could pay for shipping to send it back again and I'm sure they'll send you another.

Depends on whether or not you trust the next one will be better or not.
 
Well I said screw it and did both. CM I took your advice and bought a fixed blade for EDC, nowhere near as nice, but the Eskabar should work well for me. And I E-Mailed Buck, they offered to take the knife back and trade me a Marksman for it. Fingers Crossed that it works
 
Hahaha! Awesome!
 
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